EHV at Thermal?

My neighbor does endurance and was planning to go to a clinic this weekend. I sent her the CDFA letter, which she forwarded to the organizers. They also had no idea how bad it was. 🤦

There have also been endurance races going on. Luckily my neighbor hasn’t gone to any.

3 Likes

I guess none of these other discipline riders follow CoTH or other horse publications online? Crazy they haven’t heard!

2 Likes

To be fair, COTH is almost exclusively H/J/dressage coverage.

My vet has been very vocal on social media about it, but alas, lots of older people in the industry aren’t on social media. I think my vet also sent out an email to all clients, but same problem with email. :cry:

6 Likes

I keep saying this about various topics. There are lots of horse people who do not follow COTH or any other online horse community/publication. They are busy doing horse things and other life things.

9 Likes

I would think they would see it somewhere out there, its wild that no one in their circle has seen it and said anything.

1 Like

Ok, that seems super, super sick and wrong.

Bad enough that many individuals have not heard about it, but for any sort of competition or event organizers to be unaware almost a month later? That’s just unreal.

2 Likes

I thought so as well, but they literally didn’t know. I believe they have cancelled it now, but I can’t fault them for not knowing. If you aren’t online, how would you find it?

ETA it was a clinic with just the horses that lived there and two people (my neighbor included) hauling in. A small group, but still not safe.

1 Like

Someone told me yesterday that it was ā€œimpossibleā€ that any of the horses at a extreme cowboy type event could have been exposed bc none of them had been to Thermal. :woman_facepalming:t3:

We are in SE LA county; event was in NE OC.

3 Likes

After the last 2 years, the cynic in me says that even if people are aware, there are probably quite a few that see any cancellations or implemented biosecurity measures as ā€œjust the government trying to control themā€ and think it’s wrong to let a little EHV1 interfere with their plans, and any vet that says otherwise is a brainwashed sheep.

Signed, a jaded healthcare worker.

40 Likes

Well, I would hope that the state and local agencies that have anything to do with agriculture or animal welfare would be making an effort to spread the word. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic on that score.

Especially in California, where my impression is that there are lots of big facilities where many different people rent stalls for their own groups. So the odds of transmission would be extra high in that situation as different horses come and go on the property.

4 Likes

Probably true, unfortunately. Although I would not be surprised if lots of people were more worried about the health of their animals than the humans around them.

1 Like

I hear what you’re saying, but as a California resident of 10 years, as well as a trainer and facility owner, I couldn’t even tell you who/what these agencies are, if they even exist, or how to get information from them. And I’m very active online and on social media. I mean, maybe there should be a Dept. Of public health for horses, but I don’t think there is.

I think the historic viewpoint is that the onus is on the facility owners/trainers to keep on top of things, but as this has shown us, that is 1) very hard to do or near impossible, and 2) some people just don’t care.

5 Likes

It’s strange to me that the positive cases at Middle Ranch which Erin Duffy confirmed on Instagram haven’t been noted on the CDFA page? The only recorded positive in LA Country remains the gelding at HDHP. Am I missing something?

My vet also confirmed 2 positive cases in my county from Friday that haven’t shown up yet. She said it takes 48-72 hours for them to show up (which seems insane and terrible!).

2 Likes

I am still stuck in astonishment. Show management asks you to remove a horse, and you as a trainer or participant can refuse? And demand a —? Is this a thing? I’m struggling to understand what the escalation path would be - show management declares the horse as trepassing and calls the police?

I hope there is a lot more to this that isn’t visible to the rest of us, given the degree of crazy that it sounds like.

7 Likes

If they were EHV-1 that’s not necessarily a mandatory report to the state (California). EHM is. It might be true that EVH-1 cases clearly linked to an EHM case are reportable.

3 Likes

Fuuuuuuu

Seriously?!

I dabble in endurance and there are two rides going on in SoCal this weekend (3/10-3/12) and on 3/24-26, hosted by the same organizer (who is actually a vet). They posted two days ago that the rides will go on as planned despite the EHV outbreak :slightly_frowning_face: What’s worse is that at least one social media commenter, apparently from a lockdown barn (not necessarily positive cases, but barn is locked down), wants to go to the ride if they can find a place to quarantine for two weeks afterwards. SMDH :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: These sorts of attitudes make me that much more determined to stay home with my horse (and that much more cynical about people).

8 Likes

:hushed::sob:

That’s the only real reaction I can come up with…

2 Likes

That would be under CDFA. The same department oversees imports of horses and other animals. It also runs the state’s drug monitoring program that collects fees at all horse shows in California and comes around and tests. So anyone who’s ever been to a horse show in California is at least peripherally aware of CDFA. And they are also the ones that COTH, DIHP, and others have been citing in press releases.

7 Likes