EHV at Thermal?

Damn…more ill from Northern Winter Classics? Anyone know if ill horses were only at NWC? Or also at DIHP, or where these horses live, who they are? I wonder where they were stabled on the grounds?


@Bunker ??!

There’s now a confirmed EHM case from a barn in Montgomery County, MD. And two others from the same barn currently at Leesburg for medical treatment. I had heard rumors about it over the weekend, but only now showing up in the databases. No information on whether it’s connected to the other outbreaks in anyway.

ETA link. https://equiery.com/ehv-1-case-confirmed-in-montgomery-county/

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I haven’t heard about any acutely I’ll horses so not sure where they are located. Did hear about a horse that tested positive over weekend that was there - not sick just minor fever. The incubation period can be very long it seems.

At least one horse had to euthanize so I assume that means neurologic. My barn in Carroll Co was already on edge; depending on how well contained, we’re going to have to have an uncomfortable conversation about how our show season will go now.

Where did you see that info? I know there are a few barns still at Thermal because their home barns won’t let them come home

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That’s not possible for endurance or long trail rides, horses must learn to drink water where it is available. I think that you are showing an elitist attitude to have towards people who live rurally and trail ride as if they do not provide adequate care or are ignorant somehow. Many of us who are from rural areas would think the same about horses who live in a stall most of the time and only have little mental stimulation or opportunity to go on long walks for fitness fyi.

There is plenty of risk to transmit diseases at large show barns and at AA shows, as we have learned.

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I assume neurologic but the announcement doesn’t actually say - it says positive for EHV-1 and euthanized due to complications. I also just heard (second hand, but from same reliable source that I heard the first info over the weekend) that a second barn in Montgomery Co has several horses showing symptoms consistent with EHV-1, but not yet confirmed.

“That’s not possible for endurance or long trail rides, horses must learn to drink water where it is available. I think that you are showing an elitist attitude to have towards people who live rurally and trail ride as if they do not provide adequate care or are ignorant somehow. Many of us who are from rural areas would think the same about horses who live in a stall most of the time and only have little mental stimulation or opportunity to go on long walks for fitness fyi.”

@Turntable so I was specifically referring more to Western cowboys and horses who don’t put water or buckets on their horse trailers when they go on long trailer rides to far away places. For me, not bringing water on the trailer in California seems like a bad idea, because what if you break down on the side of the road somewhere with no water and no buckets.

I know nothing about endurance racing or endurance rides and have always thought the Tevis Cup riders and horses are amazing. Yes I would imagine in those cases its quite important to ride horses that are used to working long distances without water. I don’t know a lot about endurance races, but most of the few people I know who do it ride Arabians right? A breed specifically bred to go long distances in the desert without water. I’m sorry that you felt like we were bashing on endurance riders - for me at least, that’s not what I meant.

Also, I live in the mountains in rural California. Do you?

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It’s terribly sad that others horses are at risk because people didn’t quarantine. I would be fuming.

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I wish they would provide information on possible routes of exposure. Did this horse or others at the barn recently travel? Is there a lot of movement in and out of this barn to shows or other events?

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Yes, that would be nice to know. From the info I got, it’s a HJ lesson barn that I think also has some boarders. I don’t think it’s the type of place that would have people just returning from Florida, for example, but I could be wrong.

After talking to my vet last night I’m keeping my horses home for a week or two to see how this develops.

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@Libby2563
…or four weeks! Here in California some horses started showing symptoms at 3 weeks or three and a half weeks. It might be a different strain on the east coast of course, but just a heads up. The virus has acted a typical of what has been known about it up to this time. Good luck to you!

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The Maryland officials not reporting the positive case until 11 days later seems a good thing to fume about.

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As a Marylander I am NOT happy about how long it took for the news to come out.

I will say that the schooling show (not in Montgomery County but in MD) I was planning to attend this weekend was cancelled due to the news about this. So at least some individual show managers are being proactive here.

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I have an acquaintance with ties to the barn in MD. It is by no means the barns fault the news took so long to get out - they shut down and cancelled lessons the day the horse had symptoms to best implement biosecurity measures, apparently. Nobody on property but staff - not even owners. Not sure if they’re still closed or not, but good on them being proactive and helping manage the issue.

Definitely curious to understand how we can have our state agencies better share information to help other barns stay safe in these cases.

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Glad to hear that they immediately shut down.

I have heard that the local veterinarians are quite upset with the MD state veterinarian about the lack of action from the state and delay in sharing the notification with the public. I don’t really understand why the treating vets can’t report it publicly except through the state process, but I note that even EMC where the euthanized horse was treated didn’t announce anything until the state did.

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California CDFA extended suggestion for no horse events or unnecessary movement of horses in all disciplines to end of March.

No new Thermal cases last few days. https://deserthorsepark.com/ehv-1-update-from-desert-international-horse-park-10/

Other Thermal info

No new cases in original OC facility last few days. Other two SJC facilities still getting cases.
https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/animal_health/equine_herpes_virus.html

Protocols announced for Blenheim shows that now start in April. https://app.robly.com/archive?id=f84a9227d32d560b856f00162654d56b&v=true

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I ran into my vet today and he was on his way to test 11 horses at Middleranch. I assume some of these are retests, but it’s really not over.

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Started week 4 at Thermal, now seems to be trickling to an end in week 8-or would have been. So, 2-3 weeks to go in Cali, if timeline is valid.
@Peggy-Blenheim is taking no s#!t! I like it.

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