Equine retirement farms: Business Plan tutorial please?

What does the owner of the retirement farm do if the client has a very hard keeper…they are doing everything in their power to keep the horse healthy…the horse has the glint in its eye and still wants to run around

BUT LOOKS LIKE IT IS STARVING.

When you have 25 and older horses SOME will just not respond.

As the farm owner are you prepared to have complaints filed against you even though you can prove the horse is under vet care, farrier care, special diets>??

Then if someone DOES file a complaint against you…because they have their horse with you but they disagree with something you are doing…so they take photo’s of one of the old “looking starving” horses…it hits the media…and the horses are under investigation…

Are you up to it?

All I am saying is Lady is NOT the norm in the industry… 1 satisfied complaint in 22 years. Heck…with my kennel…I still get complaints…and I have been doing it for 35 years…

Lady says vets should not euthanize healthy senior horses because the client no longer can or chooses to afford to keep the horse…

I disagree…that decision is always up to the owner…and in Lady’s case…she tells them to move the horse…

I guess we all have different visions and expectations.

All I am saying is a thick skin, GREAT insurance and a good lawyer (and super accountant) is necessary to deal with ANY client regarding horses…be it a standard boarding facility, retirement, rescue breeding farm etc.

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LE - My 16 year old pony is an air fern - my neighbor’s 22 +year old mare is well fleshed, but we’ve talked about how age is often an excuse for why a horse looks poorly when really they can look like my old guy if the ration is increased properly.

How many of the elders do require the significant care, percentage wise?[/QUOTE]

Great Question!

That’s directly proportional to the kinds of horses you consent to board. More of mine are TB’s than WB or QH, so the percentage is actually higher than might be expected some places. Of 20 horses on the place I consider 4 to be “special feeders,” meaning separated from the others to eat 4 quarts or better 2x/day. 3 others are 2 qt. Hay Stretcher once or twice a day, the rest keep great on grass and hay alone. I have 1 on Previcox, 2 on supplements at owner request, 1 who has occasional (annual, maybe) bouts of lymphaginitis we knock down with short-term Doxy and Dex.

I reject 3 applicants for every one I take. I tell people forthrightly right up front if I don’t think s/he’s a “fit.” Aggressive behavior, history of founder, bilateral blindness, a need for restricted activity or long-term stall rest are all wave-offs. Think “Club Med,” segueing into “Assisted Living” for the over-30 crowd, but definitely not high-intensity “special needs.”

The ones I WANT are what I call the “Joe Namaths”–they’ll live long, happy, healthy and vibrant lives, but they ain’t playin’ no more football. :winkgrin: Think hock arthritis, suspensory tears, “navicular syndrome” which we often cure for a return to work, or just the fact that at 22 they’re all done with Big Eq.

In truth many are here just to live the R & R life because the owner is in college, pregnant, overseas, over-employed, under-employed, or has lost confidence as a rider due to age or injury.
VERY often owner, rather than horse-based, circumstances.

Agree to board what you feel you can take good care of and make everybody happy–it really comes down to that. :slight_smile:

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LE - My 16 year old pony is an air fern - my neighbor’s 22 +year old mare is well fleshed, but we’ve talked about how age is often an excuse for why a horse looks poorly when really they can look like my old guy if the ration is increased properly.

How many of the elders do require the significant care, percentage wise?[/QUOTE]

I think if they live long enough, all of them. That’s assuming an injury, illness, accident or arthritis doesn’t take them out first.

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I think if they live long enough, all of them. That’s assuming an injury, illness, accident or arthritis doesn’t take them out first.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I can envision that. In the wild they would have been preyed upon, with us we can keep them comfortable with medication, and then we have ethical issues to face.

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If I had a dollar for every poster who’s used COTH to vent at one time or another about a crazy boarder, trainer, SO, BF, BO, BM, or DD I’d be out of the boarding business and living on St. Barth’s myself. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Oh please. There has been a series of shall we say callous or offensive posts about all manner of things from you as Lady E /Swamp Yankee. Tell us again why you think the paralympics are stupid and why you think disabled people should really not try to compete because you find it annoying.

I can’t imagine sending a dear old horse to your care.

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A friend of mine who is a guru of slowly studying and then manifesting great businesses has encouraged me to look into doing equine retirement. And my own beloved gelding now in Total First World Hospice Care is teaching me about this, too.

So I’m looking for a clue from you retirement farm owners about your business plans.

How many acres needed?
We allow two acres per horse

Knowing how much it costs to build and fence, did you look for a place that as somewhat developed?
No, we wanted to be able to lay out and build everything as we wanted it. We bought bare land that didn’t even have a perimeter fence. Unless the fence had been four board wood in great shape we would have had to go to the time and expense to tear it out.

What kind of higher-end horse community did you need (and how close) in order to have your place full/financially viable?
We have horses retired with us from 15 states and two Canadian provinces. However we still needed to be in a very “horsey” area to have access to the quality of vet care and farrier care we we wanted.

Does the business honestly pay its way-- at least the difference between the cost of living on that farm vs. a mortgage on a place you’d live in town?
That really depends on a lot of things, but yes it can.

Or is this business for someone with some family money/land or who would subsidize the horse hobby that was taking care of oldsters?
That always helps in any business, not just horses, but it isn’t a requirement. My husband and I both worked off farm jobs for several years in order to “float” the retirement farm. We don’t now but I did it for several years.

Any differences between running a retiree place and a place with foal pastures? I ask this last one because my own colt grew up on a farm that did both. I’m a big believer in horses growing up with others, but foal pastures can be hard to find. Perhaps there’s a market need for that?
I have no valid input as we’ve never boarded anything other than retirees

Add whatever else you’d like. I do recall reading here about pricing things out and having a plan for collecting board from absentee HOs.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]

We vet our clients carefully and are not afraid to say no to someone, in fact we say it more often than we say yes. We don’t allow anyone to get behind on board. Our board is due on the 1st and if for some reason we don’t have payment by the 10th you are hearing from us. Given the heavy interviewing we do as we vet prospective clients this is rarely a problem.

IME most horses become special needs at some point. Some are well up in age before this happens but it generally happens at some point. Don’t get caught up in the fantasy of looking at the pretty ponies grazing. It is a lot of hard work to provide proper care to the retirees here. We feed lots of hay cube mashes, feed a lot of prascend pills, do a lot of body clipping, etc. Some horses need minimal blanketing and others need really aggressive blanketing. I work 8 or 9 hours on a light day and typically about 10-12 hours on a normal day. I spent 8 days away from the farm and work total out of the last 365. Weekends, what are they?!

Some of our residents do a lot better in the summer, especially the ones with arthritis. Others do better in the winter. Several of the Cushings horses have issues with regulating body temperature. Some run overly hot so do better in winter, some overly cold and summer is easier for them. So I don’t think you can pick any climate and call it perfect for horses. They are all individuals.

You absolutely cannot cut corners on feed. You need good feed and good hay. My husband is a large animal nutritionist so he comes in really handy for designing individual nutrition programs. :yes:

Horse care and facility maintenance is not the whole job. Customer care will take as much time as horse care, and even more time when their horse is a new arrival. So when you think about time and labor you need to think about more than just horse/facility care. Not to mention the bookkeeping and such.

It is a very rewarding job. We have gotten to know some really amazing horses and people over the years. It makes the never ending work days and lack of time off worth it, but you need to really LOVE it. We often hear from people who are frantically searching for a place to move their horse because the people who owned the current place thought it would be fun to board retirees and have a few companions for their horse. But then they decided after awhile that it is actually a lot of work and tell their handful of boarders they have to be gone in X days. We hear some variation of this story a LOT when people contact us about boarding. It is very rewarding but it is work.