Event sires...

It is just a shame Lotus T is so tall! Most of my mares that I’ve had are 16.2+ and I I’ve seen Lotus T throw size, I just don’t want that size…

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My mind first thing in the morning! this just made me smile. :wink:

I have a filly by Super Star out of a Lotus T mare. She’s gorgeous and very correct. I plan to show her in-hand next year.

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I have a filly by Super Star out of a Lotus T mare. She’s gorgeous and very correct. I plan to show her in-hand next year.[/QUOTE]

Really? And why don’t I know about her??? LOL Which Lotus mare is the dam? Being the owner of the dam’s sire and owning quite a few Lotus mares myself, I am very curious.

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It is just a shame Lotus T is so tall! Most of my mares that I’ve had are 16.2+ and I I’ve seen Lotus T throw size, I just don’t want that size…

I also own a young Lotus T son, Logan T. His dam is an imported former GP jumper mare, Femina (Merano I X Aldato) with a lot of TB in her as well: Marlon xx, Anblick xx, Chitet xx . Logan, for whatever reason is only 16.1 and in his first testcrop, produced a couple of really cool babies. Can’t post pics, but the link is a Logan T filly, out of a former event mare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLMSo1Wkf4w

Szipi, My mare is Deovolente, bred by Nicole Kuhn Johnson and her Mom. She’s produced two fabulous foals so far. One by Disconto, the other by Super Star. She’s back in foal to Disconto and due May 2013. With the way her Super Star filly is maturing, I’m planning to breed her back to him after she foals.

I see Andras who owns Lotus T has already chimed in here. Rosemarie Merle-Smith who owns and Stands Concerto Grosso also posts here under the name Groro.

My foals next year are out of a Lotus T sister and sired by CG. I’m very excited to see this cross. Technically I’ll be losing a little “blood” but CG has been so consistent and my Lotus sister actually has a lovely gallop hidden behind her easy going personality. Jumping ability is there on both sides. I’m very excited for this cross :slight_smile:

Flexible
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?0=dummy&i=10463146&ad_session=OuDtBZ
The Cruising stallions have more than proven they can produce eventers. Flex is the greatest dam in Ireland and perhaps one of the top broodmares in Europe. Absurd he is not being used more.

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PD competed Special Memories, though not sure to what extent. I don’t think the stallion needs to have evented to sire an eventer, however, there has to be significant reason to believe he’s capable.

Will Denny stand Beaulieus Quissini? There’s another fabulously well-bred QDR son whose name is escaping me, and I think he’s only offered via frozen, so I haven’t kept up with him.[/QUOTE]

Dorothy had said SM went up to Prelim IIRC.

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Dorothy had said SM went up to Prelim IIRC.[/QUOTE]

He did; here is a video link to SM cross country with PD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSg4EvrV3A

I, personally, am very interested to see what the recently approved (ATA) stallions Sea Lion and Virginian Sky produce. Sea Lion has one of the most impressive eventing performance records of any North American stallion, being successful at 3* level and making it to Rolex this year. Virginian Sky has quite an interesting pedigree, being more than 75% TB blood with a dose of Shagya from the eventing sire, Bajar. Both seem like interesting eventing sires.

And let us not forget that Halimey Go was purchased for Michael Pollard and is currently in quarantine in FL… :slight_smile:

Sea Lion will be at Rolex, that is the goal anyway, last I spoke to Pam. I stalk… I have his full sister, who I adore, so I am a big fan. If he is anything like her the temperament cannot be beat… she is sensitive and forward but the kindest horse I have ridden, she truly looks out for her rider every step of the way. Love her (and him!).

My ideal tb event sire must be a FANCY mover, as well as having a great mind and jump. He must be proven to throw it. Otherwise, why bother to breed for it, you can pick up great ottb prospects to event. A Fine Romance fits the bill. :slight_smile:

So, so pleased to see Super Star has already received a couple of recommendations. I have said this before and will continue to say it: Super Star is one of the best stallions available to eventers in the US. He crosses well with TBs, WBs and ponies. You get refinement, brains, movement, and a gorgeous lofty jump.

As an added bonus, you get a super-shiny coat that you don’t have to clip in winter. :slight_smile:

This is my Super Star mare. Her dam is a full TB. Super Star comes from one of the Akhal-Teke lines that has some TB blood mixed in generations back, so he and his family are not the more traditional long and greyhoundy AT types. You won’t get that from him.

I plan to breed to him again this spring.

Thank you JER, we are thrilled to hear you plan to use him again this spring. He is an out-of-the-box stallion to pick based on his breed. But, he consistantly produces beautiful conformation, type, movement, character, and scope! Thanks again JER, for your loyalty to this stallion!

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Flexible
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?0=dummy&i=10463146&ad_session=OuDtBZ
The Cruising stallions have more than proven they can produce eventers. Flex is the greatest dam in Ireland and perhaps one of the top broodmares in Europe. Absurd he is not being used more.[/QUOTE]
He’s another only available w/frozen.

Hunter (Heraldik/Alcatraz) - another frozen only option.

Super Star is very interesting, and you can probably count on prepotency or at least consistency. Both important.

Any word on the Ciceras Icewaters? I looked at Lotus before, and size was a concern. I bred to a 16h stud w/no size behind him & still ended up w/a 17h monster, go figure.

While we’re discussing frozen…One that I think could throw a great UL horse is Quintender. Watched him gallop & was sure he was a TB until I inquired, overall very light on his feet - so you’d have to consider that ;). I’m sure I hear his female rider giggling, and I would be too, if I was playing w/him over-fences. Struck me as a horse who would rather work than meander; a TB-like mentality. He has high breeding indexes, though he’s been bred to some top mares, which doesn’t hurt.

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Szipi, My mare is Deovolente, bred by Nicole Kuhn Johnson and her Mom. She’s produced two fabulous foals so far. One by Disconto, the other by Super Star. She’s back in foal to Disconto and due May 2013. With the way her Super Star filly is maturing, I’m planning to breed her back to him after she foals.[/QUOTE]

Aha! This is where Daisy (Deovolente) ended up. I was always wondering, since I thought she was an incredibly talented filly with a great brain. Has she done anything sport-wise? Also, I am sure you know, but she’s 85% TB - doesn’t look it, does she :)?

FWIW some of the trakehner stallions mentioned will be in the annual ATA stallion auction. :slight_smile:

I have three stallions in Maryland – Cimarron (Holsteiner) who is a former #1 USEF leading sire of event horses, Mt. vidmore (TB) whose oldest foals with me are 3yo, and Quasar (Cleveland Bay x TB) from a successful family of eventers and dressage horses, oldest foals are yearlings.

Concerto Grosso, and Ciceras Icewater, are very nice (probably underused) stallions. I’d love to hear more bout their get.

We have a yearling filly by Ciceras Icewater who is just lovely. We are very pleased with her and plan to breed back to him again in the future.

I always feel that people overlook Royal Appearance who stands at VA tech. He has more WB but crosses well with full TBs. Sharon White has been riding our coming 5 y/o Royal Alyance and is quite pleased with him. We also have a coming 4 y/o Royal baby out of a Comet Shine mare who is going to be pretty special.

If you are breeding to a full TB, you have a lot more options. We aim for around 70 to 80% blood for our upper level prospects. I don’t think we will have a wealth of eventing stallions to choose from until more breeders are breeding for eventing; however, I do think interest is growing within the USEA and UL rider community to build more of a home based breeding program. Fingers crossed anyway…