Fabuleux Hanoverian Stallion

Well that is the interesting thing about his offspring - all the younger ones I know DO clean up at the lower levels with scores in the 70-80% range, but it has more (IMO) to do with their demeanor and temperament than their ability to later to the higher levels. Shoot my pony will certainly (and has) score 70%+ at into and training, but she’s no upper level prospect.

I still stand by my comment that for the most part his offspring are not what most would be looking for in the current upper level dressage ring.

I do agree with PP, the Fabuleux offspring I have seen have had flatter movement and can be heavy in front. They have all been quite large with quiet temperaments. If you want smaller with dressage movement, you might want to look at Dauphin, but he is frozen through Marefield Meadows.

Our Fabuleaux 2008 filly is really nice, and beautiful. She is just being started under saddle. My trainer is aiming for the FEI Dressage Young Horse Tests. She is out of a Donnerschall x Wilhelm Tell II mare. Filly is not very big, but will probably mature in the 16H range. Here is a video from last winter as a two year old, and the very first time I ever asked her to trot in hand:

http://youtu.be/Ba31ovEbzjw

Good luck! Barbra is great to work with, and I will probably breed to him again. It takes the right mare, but I do really like our girl!

houserabbitz, I am also considering Dauphin :slight_smile:

Did you ever say what the breeding of your mare is?Peg

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houserabbitz, I am also considering Dauphin :-)[/QUOTE]

If you are considering him, Dauphin’s frozen semen is incredible. My therio said there were fresh semen stallions in the barn hanging their heads in shame, as their fresh semen wasn’t as powerful as his frozen. :winkgrin:

What a nice filly. So I lied in one of my posts, I would not have known your filly was by Fabuleux based on the offspring I have seen.

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Our Fabuleaux 2008 filly is really nice, and beautiful. She is just being started under saddle. My trainer is aiming for the FEI Dressage Young Horse Tests. She is out of a Donnerschall x Wilhelm Tell II mare. Filly is not very big, but will probably mature in the 16H range. Here is a video from last winter as a two year old, and the very first time I ever asked her to trot in hand:

http://youtu.be/Ba31ovEbzjw

Good luck! Barbra is great to work with, and I will probably breed to him again. It takes the right mare, but I do really like our girl![/QUOTE]

I’m impressed. Congratulations to your beautiful filly and good luck with her!!
As I said before I love the lines of Fabuleux. Especially Augustinus xx is one of my favorites.

She is a TB mare. Sorry I don’t know how to post a picture.

I have a Fabriano gelding out of my Walldorf mare. Absolutely LOVE everything about him. Super riding horse. My only thing was his size. He’s every bit of 17h and big bodied. I wouldn’t trade him for anything but when it came time to rebreed the mare I decided on Fabuleux. My hopes were that his damline would help refine. The end result was a lovely filly that is definitely more refined, nice conformation, super temperament, great gaits and a very trainable mind. She was top foal at her inspection. I sold her as a yearling. Today she is 4yo and she’s on her way to the Markel National Young Horse Championships next week! I am super excited! The new owner and trainer said she has been fabulous every step of the way. I love this line and plan on rebreeding my mare back to Fabuleux. If I had a more refined mare I’d breed to Fabriano himself. :slight_smile: Good luck with your final choice. Stallion shopping is so much fun.

Mary Messinger
Kingston Farm
www.kingstonfarm.com

The other Fabriano son standing in the US is Fred Astaire. Tom Noone is doing very well with him in FEI competition. He has lots of spring and knee action with a natural uphill balance. The only offspring I have seen by him him has similar movement. She looks very refined and is out of a thoroughbred mare.

Kate (www.autumnhillfarm.com) bred to Fred Astaire a few times. One is the approved AHS stallion Fielding (Fred Astair - Lessing), who is now a gelding and a hunter (but showed in dressage with quite good scores before being sold and gelded) and she also has a mare that just scored a 7.83 at her inspection for the AHS (a very high score) that is Fred Astaire - Maurice).

I’ve had two Fabuleux’s out of the same mare. Both are smaller (<16h) and shorter coupled than the mare. Both have huge movement and great temperaments. The older one was an overall 8 at her Hanoverian inspection and an overall 7.91 at her MPT. She is currently undefeated at second level this year with her amateur owner (and I think high score adult amateur for second level at all the shows too). She definitely has what it takes to progress successfully up the levels.
The younger one is only two and has beautiful movement but it remains to be seen how she will be as a dressage horse.

ohhh I have a fabuleux 3 yr old I’m in LOVE with… even though I bred him for dressage (and there is no reason he couldn’t do dressage) he’s such a hunter. Big flat kneed with just enough flick of the feet type trot, beautiful quiet balanced canter (main reason I bred to fabuleux) and his walk… holy tolido bat man… his over step without being pushed is easily 14 inches. I put him through the jumping chute on sunday, and wow what knees!!! He doesn’t have the best scope when I compare him to his half sister who is by a corland son, but I’ve never owned a horse or see one in person that pulls those knees so flippin high. I have one pic of him and you can’t see air between his knees and throat latch.

I’m just starting to back him now, and he’s a very fast learner, who is smooth as silk to ride, he hasn’t put a foot wrong. I’m an eager beaver to see what this horse could do. He’s definitely a high end hunter. I wish I could breed back to fabuleux, and I would anytime.

Here is a link to him on my site http://www.janakofarms.com/federalforce.php they are from last year as a 2 yr old.

We purchased and imported our foundation mare from the same breeder as Fabuleux in Germany. We remain in contact with them. Recently our Don Frederico filly took her MPT test, was Champion, made Elite and became the second daughter of our foundation mare to be elite. The breeder is in Germany actually stayed up until I wrote them with the news. Yikes… very early in the morning for them.

Fabuleux’s dam is SPS Auguste (16.3h), 8.0 on MPT and was their foundation mare years ago. Her first three foals were fillies which they kept to build their herd.

This dam line boasts 7 direct generations of SPS/Elite mares. Their stock has been popular in Germany because they are so rideable with good movement. There have been other stallions out of that damline as well, but none others are here in the USA. One of their mares, a Londonderry out of a full sister to Fabuleux was purchased by Isabell Werth at the elite auction for $120k Euros. A Dauphin colt was also licensed stallion and stood at the Celle until recently sold to another country.

Our mare is a couple of generations beyond Fabueux and we did an adventurous breeding this year and bred her to Fabuleux thus doubling up on Fabuleux’s dam, SPS Auguste. We can’t wait to see the outcome:). I am hoping for height and improved gaits…I know the temperament is going to be stellar! Barb is spectacular to work with as a stallion owner as well!

I have a Fabuleux filly out of a Rampal mare. My mare has just been backed and I have ridden her a few times. Very fun, like others said he canter is smooth as silk. Trot is flat but bought her as my next dressage horse. She isn’t a big bodied horse, she is 16.2 at 3 years old not heavy at all. Very pretty. That being said I have seen a really really coarse-big one where my was being started and it was nothing like mine.

And Fabriano himself is still available via frozen. From all I’ve heard, his frozen has a very good success rate. He’s been on my list for years as one of the nicest “all arounder” type stallions.

Stallions like Fab & Goodtimes (Dutch) have always impressed me as throwing super multi-talented horses…maybe not world class in either, but very capable in both jumping & dressage. Just nicely athletic, good-minded riding horses.

But I wonder if this age of specialization worked against the “all arounder” ? Are their babies marketable? I never seem to see them on sale pages,but maybe that’s because nobody sells them :D!

Just for my own info what world class winners have either of these stallions produced?

I would think these guys would produce a nice 3 day horse if crossed with a TB mare…