FDA- Horse supplement warning

well that makes me happier. where did you find that quoted language?

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well that makes me happier. where did you find that quoted language?[/QUOTE]

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2014/ucm422545.htm

Last line of the 2nd paragraph.

Thanks!!

will this affect purchasing pentosan from horseprerace.com?

At the beginning of the descriptions of the omeprazole products, horseprerace.com now says: “If your veterinarian prescribes Omeprazole paste…” I don’t recall seeing that before.

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will this affect purchasing pentosan from horseprerace.com?[/QUOTE]

Unlikely.

Just ordered 200 more packets from Abler to see me thru the storm. My boy only gets 1 packet per day and 20 tabs of rantidine every time we ride. He gets nervous…:lol:

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Well, my question is does warning mean the same thing as forcing them to stop? Should I place another order of pop rocks even though I don’t need any right now? Interesting that they were stronger than they were supposed to be because I cut my horse down a pack as a treatment dose and he still did fine. I guess because he was still getting enough.[/QUOTE]

FDA’s options for penalizing a foreign company are limited. If Abler wants to have the ability to legally sell pharmaceuticals in the US in the future, they may opt not to sell to US customers until they can meet FDA requirements, but they can’t literally be forced to stop. What could happen, though, might be that the US starts targeting and seizing the pharmaceuticals that Abler’s customers attempt to import. Will it actually happen? Who knows.

Who thinks Merial pharmaceuticals is behind this…because after all if we are able to purchase ulcer meds for less than $1200 a month…who wouldn’t? :mad:

I’ve been using Abprazole and I guess I better order a couple more months… just in case.

This stinks.

I’m surprised the Previcox/Equioxx issue hasn’t been brought up yet. Seems many don’t know it is also illegal for a vet to Rx Previcox for use in horses as there is a fully approved equine version.

I know it’s done all of the time as the difference in cost is substantial. However, it is still illegal and I’m shocked there appears to be quite a few vets out there risking their licenses to Rx Previcox for horses. Unless there is a relationship with said vet that also includes dog(s) what could possibly be their defense if caught?

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Who thinks Merial pharmaceuticals is behind this…because after all if we are able to purchase ulcer meds for less than $1200 a month…who wouldn’t? :mad:

I’ve been using Abprazole and I guess I better order a couple more months… just in case.

This stinks.[/QUOTE]

I agree! This has nothing to do with safety and everything with lost revenue for Merrill. I’ve got enough for almost 9 months but will closely monitor this in case I need to place a big order quick.

Not just loss of revenue for Merial, but also loss of revenue for the FDA. While it’s nice to think their sole purpose is to make sure our drugs are safe, they also generate a good but of income off drug approvals. Unapproved drugs lose money for the department.

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Not just loss of revenue for Merial, but also loss of revenue for the FDA. While it’s nice to think their sole purpose is to make sure our drugs are safe, they also generate a good but of income off drug approvals. Unapproved drugs lose money for the department.[/QUOTE]
Unless the FDA is taking bribes from the drug companies how does it lose money by denying approvals? Do you have any facts to backup your statements?

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I agree! This has nothing to do with safety and everything with lost revenue for Merrill.[/QUOTE]
So, you’re ok with taking drugs made in foreign countries with no oversite, quality control testing or safety regulations of any kind? If so, there’s nothing more to say but good luck.

I wouldn’t doubt that Merial is behind it, and why shouldn’t they be? They spent a fortune developing and marketing a very effective drug, and a bunch of fly-by-night backyard operations have sprung up and are hawking what they claim to be the basically same product or better, except you have no idea what is or isn’t in it or if it is safe or effective. These places are blatantly peddling drugs illegally, and in most cases are flat-out robbing people because the products don’t contain what they claim.

I do wish that Merial would work to bring the price of their omeprazole products down to a more affordable level, but there are other options available (like ranitidine), if GastroGard/UlcerGard are too expensive.

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So, you’re ok with taking drugs made in foreign countries with no oversite, quality control testing or safety regulations of any kind? If so, there’s nothing more to say but good luck.[/QUOTE]

According to the FDA, 13% of generic prescription drugs are manufactured in the US, 43% in China and 39% from India. The rest from where ever. Here is an interesting article in USA Today :http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-08-03-recall03_ST_N.htm

Not really that much over-site. So most of your drugs come from overseas and and the FDA can’t/won’t maintain close monitoring on manufacturing until there is patient complaints about efficacy or death. Feel safe yet buying in the US? :lol:

I’m just saying the more you know about the lack of safety in many FDA approved drugs, the less you will concerned with Canadian omeprazole.

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I’m just saying the more you know about the lack of safety in many FDA approved drugs, the less you will concerned with Canadian omeprazole.[/QUOTE]

What Canadian omeprazole? From Abler? Horseprerace? What omeprazole do you think is Canadian?

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Unless the FDA is taking bribes from the drug companies how does it lose money by denying approvals? Do you have any facts to backup your statements?[/QUOTE]

It must be really cold where you are, because you are more contrary than usual. :wink:

Yes, I have facts. They are called fees. And they are expensive. And you still pay application fees even if you are denied, which I don’t believe any of these companies ever applied.

I’m not saying the FDA is taking bribes. I’m not saying the FDA is extorting businesses. What I am saying is that the department loses money when there are non-regulated drugs out there. The FDA still has to do their job, but there is no money coming in off the product.

I don’t think those fees go into the FDA’s pocket. They go into the general government revenues. FDA gets its operating budget from the government, not from the fees.

I’m surprised the Previcox/Equioxx issue hasn’t been brought up yet. Seems many don’t know it is also illegal for a vet to Rx Previcox for use in horses as there is a fully approved equine version.

the vets can prescribe Previcox off-label, quite legally. Once a drug has been approved for sale, it’s ok to prescribe and sell. Vets and doctors don’t have to follow the labelling or the approved indications.