FEI level: French Links Illegal In Dressage

This unfortunately isn’t true - but there are many like you that believe so. There are french links that do not have dogbone plates. A french link is not defined by the shape of the lozenge in the middle.

Here is a good example: https://www.bitofbritain.com/Happy-M…k-p/464120.htm

JP/Korsteel has several french links that are flat and rectangular, not dog-bone. And they call them french links in their vendor catalog.

“Dr Bristol” was a brand type but is now a broad category meant to denote double jointed bits with flat center pieces. French links can and do fall into that category. French links have always been disallowed if you follow the FEI verbiage of “no flat control plates”. The problem is, people would assume that a bit had to be labeled a “Dr Bristol” to be illegal. But french links like the above image I posted, have always not been allowed in FEI (eventing) dressage if you listened to the verbiage vs the bit manufacturer.

As we’ve seen from this discussion, it’s not so black and white…

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My hands never “enjoyed” riding a horse in a French link, and my hands just found the lozenge dull, I do not really know how to describe the feeling, but I did not feel that much in communication with the horse’s mouth.

When I first tried a Dr. Bristol I put it on like I’ve seen described in several bit/saddlery books. My horse did not like it at all. Another horse I tried it on like that would not accept contact gladly but did not mind sagging reins.

Then I figured out how to put it on the GENTLE side, and I have had excellent results. My best results were with the JP Korsteel Dr. Briston D-ring AFTER I made “bit loops” out of bias tape at the tops of the Ds.

The horses I used this set up with were an Arabian gelding who had perfected bolting if he found a bit or rider’s hands too harsh, which got him booted from the regular lesson lineup. He was super finicky with his mouth and had HIGH standards about the rider’s hands and the bit in his mouth. He had no hesitation to showing his displeasure early on and could get vehement rapidly. He really liked the JP Dr. Bristol, he was a little bit more forgiving of my hand faults, and I could control him with tweaks of my fingers on contact.

Then I tried it on an old Arab mare, late twenties, who had the most sensitive mouth of any horse I’ve ever ridden. She liked the same bit just fine, much better than the other bits tried on her, though when my hands deteriorated more in the summer time she would say ENOUGH but when it got cooler she had no objections when I started riding with it again. This mare would IMMEDIATELY tell her rider if the bit was acceptable with that rider’s hands.

Neither of these horses liked me riding them in a French link or lozenge bit.

So I do not understand at all why this humane bit, comfortable, easily understood by the horse, and capable of transmitting the rider’s hand aids promptly and accurately has been demonized by the powers that be of dressage. If you put most bits “upside down” in the horse’s mouth you will get objections from the horse, but those other bits are not prohibited.

I no longer ride with this bit, after my worse MS exacerbation in 15 years my proprioceptive sense of my hands just got too bad all the time, not just in the summer heat. When the horses said “NO” I went to the super gentle Wellep bit, one of the few bits that I’ve found gentler than a Dr. Bristol when it is put on the bridle in the correct position.

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How does this effect the lower levels? Is a French link still legal? From how I am reading this it is only FEI level. But as I currently use a (what I consider a traditional French link-the dog bone shape) a French link I would like to clarify before my first event of the year, and whether I should be on the hunt for something else.

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I’m trying to get a definitive answer on this, too. I have a young horse I want to bring out in BN this spring, and he goes in a french link dee in all three phases.

@back_in_the_saddle @whbar158

This rule adjustment is only for FEI level eventing.

US competitors: check out this link which has the legal mouth-pieces for USEA (as in NON-FEI level) events. You’ll notice the image of the “Dr Bristol” fits what most people define as a “french link”:
https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/bGxa…enting-annex-1

To add to the confusion though, here is the excerpt about permitted snaffles:

3.Permitted Snaffles (see diagrams)
a. May have one or two joints
b. May be double-jointed with rounded or rotating mouthpiece allowing for better fit and comfort.
c. May have a slightly curved port, allowing more room for the tongue. The maximum height is 30mm from the lower part of the side of the tongue to the highest point of the deviation.
d. A bushing or coupling is permitted as the center link and must be solid with no moveable parts other than a roller.
e. The center link must be smooth and rounded
f. The diameter of the mouthpiece must be a minimum of 10mm at the rings or cheeks.

Bold is mine. By these rules, the french link is technically out because a french link is smooth and flat.

I’m still scratching my head on since when has a Dr Bristol been allowed at the USEA levels for dressage. I recall it specifically being not permitted in the early 2000s.

Clear as mud.

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Actually I think you are right. I think it isn’t the shape, it is the angle, french links are flat with the bit and Dr. Bristol is angled from the bit. But the Dr. Bristol’s do tend to be flat edged, and french links do TYPICALLY tend to be dog-bone shaped. Most resources seem to think it is the shape, but digging in a bit more, I think it’s the angle, you can see the difference looking at a bunch. Which still is simple, really.

Overall, if a bit has a plate, it’s not allowed in FEI dressage. And apparently that has always been the case, they just clarified it?

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Wow. This could be the most confusing rule ever @beowulf

I’ve heard two very different explanations of what makes a Dr. Bristol v a french link.

Version 1: a Dr. Bristol link is a long oval or rectangle with rounded corners. A french link is pinched in the center, like an 8 without holes.

Version 2: a Dr Bristol link is attached to the two side pieces at a angle. When you lay a Dr Bristol on the table, the plate sticks up at 30-45 degrees. A french link is attached to the two side pieces flush. When you lay a french link on the table, the link is parallel to the table.

While the latter seems much more important, it’s hard to say which one will be more severe without seeing how the angles play out once contact is taken.

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I think I’m leaning more towards Version 2 now. You would think there would be an official guide of these somewhere so it isn’t so ambiguous!

The more I am reading into this the more confused I am, because the image in the USEF rulebook lists “Dr Bristol” as permissible, which directly goes against what they later write as required of all snaffle mouth-pieces (“must be smooth and rounded”).

The difference in the past between a Real Dr Bristol and a French link was as follows:
Dr Bristol’s flat plate was designed to rest flat against the tongue once contact was picked up, so if you put it on a table, it would appear “at an angle” to the table.
French link’s flat plate would be parallel to a table if resting on it, and at an angle to the tongue once in the mouth.

The above being why a traditional Dr Bristol is, in fact, far more humane than a traditional french link.

Now the lines are blurred, because vendors are using any which label as their descriptor - and in an effort to make bits more humane and also ergonomic, have shifted towards having the lozenge in the middle be at an angle when on the shelf, which translates to flat against the tongue during contact.

Either way, still a control plate. So should be illegal regardless if it’s called a French Link or a Dr Bristol.

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Jesus. Reading this entire thread has made my head spin. At this point I am so glad my bit has a rounded lozenge in the middle. I feel for people whose horse goes well in a French link. I can only imagine going to warm up thinking you’re fine and then they tell you your bit is not legal, ugh. And also, after this, I will never volunteer as a bit checker at an event. It would be really nice if USEA and FEI rules could be CRYSTAL clear for all of us competing.

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I’m still super confused, and I’m not trying to be obtuse, and I don’t think I’m totally dense!

I guess what’s personally throwing me off is that picture in Annex 1 that says Dr. Bristol next to it. My horse wears the JP Korsteel french link dee, which is more dog-bone shaped: https://www.doversaddlery.com/jp-korsteel-french-link-hunter-dee-snaffle-bit/p/X1-010061/

But if I’m in the U.S. and I’m never doing anything FEI, I guess I just don’t need to worry about it?

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That bit is illegal, under the FEI rules.

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Yup. Basically if it has a plate, it’s illegal for FEI, but if you have no intentions of going FEI then it doesn’t matter :slight_smile:

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I actually think the picture for dr Bristol in the USEF eventing annex looks like a dr and not what I consider the traditional French link.

I guess my main question is as long as a “dr Bristol” type bit is allowed I should be ok? Mostly I don’t want to get to bit check and get someone confused by all this. She goes well in the kk bits too, I just had an extra French link and stuck it on her dressage bridle, and left her D kk on her jump bridle.

But this does seem very confusing I do remember back in my pony club days that dr bristols were not legal but a French link was. And that seemed to be confusing for some and I am sure made worse now by there being so many options that are labeled basically interchangeably.

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Oh is the mm thickness also only FEI?

Having always been confused about French link vs Dr B, even though I’ve read the theories, I have to wonder if the rule change isn’t to simplify bit checks - either it’s got a flat link and is illegal, or it has a bean and is legal. I feel for the bit checker who’s supposed to figure out the angle of a center plate!

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Yes, or in Canada where we follow FEI rules.

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I honestly couldn’t really fault them if that was the case.

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I checked my rule book archive. The Dr Bristol has been EXPLICITLY permitted for USEF (not FEI) Eventing Dressage since at least 2007.

The on-line USEF rule book archives only go back to 2007 also.

I vaguely remember that the Dr Bristol was illegal for 1 or 2 years sometime before that. But it was only illegal for a very short time.

IIRC, the rationale was that BN/N horses and riders might need a stronger bit for safety, (that FEI level horses and riders shouldn’t need) though there was no consensus that the Dr Bristol was actually “stronger”.

No contradiction.

“Smooth and rounded” means “no sharp edges”. A flat plate (whether rectangular or figure 8 shaped) with chamfered (rounded) edges IS “smooth and round”. And every French link or Dr Bristol I have seen has smooth edges.

But if you do not believe me, call the USEF for clarification. At least, that could get them to clarify the wording.

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