Corgis aren’t on that list…anyone know if they carry this mutation? White paws…
I always say that SOMEONE has to graduate at the bottom of their class. I’ve had crappy doctors and I’ve had crappy vets as well.
No harm in giving everyone a heads up.
I think everyone needs to eat a Snickers bar and get over it.
I have Corgis and done Corgi rescue. As far as I know, Corgis are not included in this - I have not ever had a problem with mine. One of my trainers also breeds and shows Aussies and we talked about it at length. She had not heard of anything involving Corgis, just Aussies.
A warning to those that do have breed that potential carry the MDR-1 mutation, be careful after you have dewormed your horses with ivermectin. I have seen ivermectin toxicity when a dog ate the horses’ poop.
For the vets who are insulted at the insinuation that not all vets are aware of this, when I got my rescue aussie a few years ago, he was on heart worm medication that used ivermectin. Since he was still alive, he obviously did not have the mutation, but having spoken to his previous owners, he had not been tested for the gene. The owners, and their vet, had just lucked out and not killed him through ignorance. (And yes, the vet was either ignorant or careless in this instance.)
No vet on this board said “all vets” are aware. I just don’t believe that “many aren’t aware” as was posted in Post #1. I’m not sure where you think the information came from in the first place. From vets? yeah, probably. We heard about it long before the general public.
It’s like telling vets - hey, don’t give Tylenol to my cat. No kidding, really?
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A warning to those that do have breed that potential carry the MDR-1 mutation, be careful after you have dewormed your horses with ivermectin. I have seen ivermectin toxicity when a dog ate the horses’ poop.[/QUOTE]
I’m always SUPER paranoid about this (I really wish there was an equine alternative to ivermectin). How long do you think the ivermectin is still coming through in the manure? I keep the dog in the day I worm and for 3-4 days afterwards and even for a few more days I watch her like a hawk so she doesn’t eat manure (she doesn’t normally anyway). I feel like a week later anything HAS to have passed through. Do you have any insight on that?
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For the vets who are insulted at the insinuation that not all vets are aware of this, when I got my rescue aussie a few years ago, he was on heart worm medication that used ivermectin. Since he was still alive, he obviously did not have the mutation, but having spoken to his previous owners, he had not been tested for the gene. The owners, and their vet, had just lucked out and not killed him through ignorance. (And yes, the vet was either ignorant or careless in this instance.)[/QUOTE]
Oh dear, you are uneducated. Heartgard and other ivermectin heartworm preventions are safe for dogs with MDR1 mutation.
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Oh dear, you are uneducated. Heartgard and other ivermectin heartworm preventions are safe for dogs with MDR1 mutation.[/QUOTE]
Was that true 8 years ago?
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For the vets who are insulted at the insinuation that not all vets are aware of this, when I got my rescue aussie a few years ago, he was on heart worm medication that used ivermectin. Since he was still alive, he obviously did not have the mutation, but having spoken to his previous owners, he had not been tested for the gene. The owners, and their vet, had just lucked out and not killed him through ignorance. (And yes, the vet was either ignorant or careless in this instance.)[/QUOTE]
Ivermectin in the dose used in heart worm medication is safe for dogs with the MDR-1 gene. Just stay away from the combo medications.
What heartworm prevention products can I use if my dog has the MDR1 mutation?
All heartworm products labeled for dogs in the U.S. have been tested in dogs with the MDR1 mutation as required by the FDA and have been found to be safe. However, some of the combination flea+heartworm preventive products (those containing spinosad) should be used cautiously in dogs that are MDR1 mutant/normal because of a risk of serious drug-drug interactions.
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Was that true 8 years ago?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
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I’m always SUPER paranoid about this (I really wish there was an equine alternative to ivermectin). How long do you think the ivermectin is still coming through in the manure? I keep the dog in the day I worm and for 3-4 days afterwards and even for a few more days I watch her like a hawk so she doesn’t eat manure (she doesn’t normally anyway). I feel like a week later anything HAS to have passed through. Do you have any insight on that?[/QUOTE]
Here is an abstract on a study they did: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11145833
Heartworm dose(safe) is 6 mcg/kg.
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Then I am corrected and more informed.
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Here is an abstract on a study they did: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11145833
Heartworm dose(safe) is 6 mcg/kg.[/QUOTE]
Thank you
