Fox Hunting Photos

It does look like a fabulous club and great good fun. If this club and its members help preserve open land to ride on, then bravo and good for them.

You keep saying “we are not in the UK” but what you’re missing is that this is the Chronicle of the Freakin’ Horse, pretty much the authority/major outlet on foxhunting in the US and headquartered smack dab in the middle of Virginia Hunt Country. So it is understandable that people are taking offense to your calling your club’s activities foxhunting. Because they know from foxhunting.

That doesn’t mean that your club isn’t wonderful, and isn’t providing a great opportunity for people to learn to ride cross country in a group setting and that you shouldn’t continue to have a blast.

But more than understanding terminology (there’s no “hunt master”; there’s a huntsman, an MFH and/or field master) or turnout (no square pads, no bright colors, no boots or polos), you need to know that an actual hunt club actually hunting would never lark over fences that there was a way to go around. It’s actually considered rude. You jump because you need to get from point A to point B, usually panels or coops set in pasture fences. Nothing in standards, nothing in jump cups, nothing preset.

So call it mock hunting, call it a hunt trail ride, call it lots of fun. But don’t get upset when people tell you not to call it fox hunting.

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This is incorrect. There absolutely ARE recognized foxhunts in Canada, and this is NOT what foxhunting is in Canada. The MFHA covers all of North America.
https://mfha.com/hunt-map

They may not be close to you, but they exist. Here are a handful:
http://www.beavermeadowfoxhounds.ca/
https://www.tnyh.horse/
https://www.montrealhunt.org/
https://www.thehamiltonhuntclub.ca/
http://www.ottawavalleyhunt.com/

It’s lovely that you all are enjoying your horses and absolutely stunning countryside, and all trying to learn the sport in the capacity that you can. That’s great! But as you learn more about the sport, you also need to understand that foxhunters revere our hounds above all else. To be honest, I didn’t really get that at first either. We don’t have a sport without our hounds, period. So when you call your activity “foxhunting” when it lacks the one important thing, it feels disrespectful to the hounds and to other foxhunters. I am sure that’s not your intent at all, but that’s how important the hounds are to us. Yes we love our traditions too, but most folks understand that people new to the sport are not going to have all the “correct” clothing and appointments and whatnot.

The heart of foxhunting is the hounds – the respect for the hounds, the love for the hounds. In the UK, in the US, and yes in Canada too. People are getting rankled because you are being dismissive of that.

As you grow your club, I strongly suggest you rename it to something that better represents your activity and your respect for the sport (“Mock Hunt” or similar?). I think you will find that then not only will the foxhunting community appreciate it and embrace it, but also help promote it.

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Trail riding. No problem.

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I can’t add anything that hasn’t been said, but OP to me what you have are a group of nice people with a ball --no baskets, no gym, no uniforms, no rules --playing, having fun, and calling it a “Basketball Game.” You can call it what you want to --but unless you have the hounds and the traditions, it isn’t fox hunting. We have had people come and ride, ask about the clothes and the turn out [one was my guest who wanted to know if a dark purple hunt coat was proper --it’s not,] Probably 4 out of 5 decide the sport isn’t for them --too many rules and weird clothes. But in fox hunting everything has a reason and a purpose. Just this week a long time member was reminded that field is not to jump obstacles that the master has passed without jumping (it’s called larking and frowned upon --BECAUSE the staff (Masters and Whips) know about hazards on the field and may not have time to tell EVERYONE that there’s a big hole right after the fence and you’ll break a leg if you jump it.) You just don’t jump something unless the master has. Same reason you never pass him/her. His job is to know where the hounds are, where the huntsman is going, and how the wind is carrying the scent. If you pass him, you may cut the line an spoil everyone’s fun. The red coats are there to signal authority and knowledge —not to make sure “you all stay together.” --but I think until you really ride to the hounds, you’re not going to appreciate what I’m writing --enjoy your sport — :slight_smile:

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Appreciate your post. At this point only in our dreams can us Canadians dream of riding with hounds. Definitely no such things here in the local clubs. Maybe one day-but here there is no use for them so I imagine this will always be the closest equivalent to the original set up. Cheers!

I’m just emphasizing this because it’s just really backwards to what I understand about hunting. I’m pretty new to it, and a member of a small drag hunt. We don’t hunt live game, but we wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the hounds. The whole point is training and enjoying the hounds; the riding part is the icing on the cake. I know there are members of my hunt that really only care about the jumping/galloping part, but for the most part they respect that the hounds are the heart/purpose of the club and each ride.

Saying there’s no use for the hounds in a hunt is just bizarre, sorry. I’d be really curious to hear how the founders/organizers of the club explain it.

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WOOHOO! Now onto finding money to convince them to come bring hounds to AB. Cheers!

I admit it. You confuse me.
Why so annoyed with people who are simply giving you facts.

Everyone agrees what you are doing looks like fun.
I wish there was a hunter pace near me that had courses like that. The terrain looks fun, the jumps look fun.
It does not make it less fun that it is not actually a Hunt. It does not mean your photos are not fun to look at because it is not actually a Hunt. But no amount of your attitude changes the fact that what you want to call a hunt is not a Hunt. Just because there are no available Hunts (with hounds and all that stuff) around you does not make what your club does anymore of a Hunt.
Why is that hard to understand?
Enjoy what you do, but do not call it something it is not.

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What I am amused by is how much vested interested and obsession some of you seem to have with this post. I was sharing gorgeous photos of some of the great things our club has been doing on the weekends, but you’ve seem to have become completely obsessed with trying to make a point that is irrelevant to me. Do you not have better things to do with your time??
This IS our hunt club and these are photos from it. No amount of attacking or rudeness will change that. Your opinion is no more relevant than anyone else’s but you seem to become quite brave hiding behind your computer monitor. You need to find a new hobby and move on my friend.

I think you missed the point. What I was intending to convey is that there is a standard for all of North America, when you claim there is not.

Label your group whatever you want, but don’t expect the foxhunting community to agree with you. Just because there isn’t currently a recognized hunt in AB doesn’t mean you personally get to redefine what a hunt is. It’s very strange that you are so defensive about this.

But whatever, I’m off to go clean tack to go hunting this afternoon. With actual hounds. :wink:

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Your opinion is no more relevant than anyone else’s

…ummmmmm. I think you’re confusing opinion with facts. It’s not an “opinion” that what you’re doing is not hunting. Nothing is being hunted. No quarry, no hounds, no hunters, no hunting. It’s your opinion that you should be able to call this activity whatever you want to, regardless of the facts. Okay.

Before you start slinging more insults about keyboard ninjas and the getting of lives, ask yourself why you’re so invested and so defensive about calling this something it isn’t?

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Tally Ho!

Ignorance is bliss.

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In Ontario, the Ottawa Valley Hunt does drag hunts with hounds, but it also offers other fun events, like Hunter Paces, and trail rides - both without the hounds - that are often for charity and don’t have the strict rules associated with their drag hunts. I’ve done a hunter pace with them and it was great fun. It seems similar to these outings you do with your Hunt Club.

Anyways, it looks like your club has a lot of fun!

But we don’t consider those events - hunter paces, trail rides, etc. to be hunts or call them hunting. They are typically run as fundraisers for the hunt, to attract new potential members, to participate in the larger equestrian community in the area, etc.

Since when is a skull and cross bones on the horse’s butt and saddle pad “following hunting traditions”? :eek: And the turnout of most of those people is definitely not traditional, bright turquoise square pads and long flowing messy hair? The person on the grey horse isn’t wearing any kind of appropriate jacket and neither are many of the others.

It looks like great fun, but its a big group trail ride. You can hunt without a live fox but you need hounds of some type to consider it hunting.

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OP, no one responding was rude at all. Not sure why you would come to a foxhunting forum and get defensive about our sport when it is about the hounds.
If a night Hunter posted pictures I think we would all be thrilled and positive, even with no horses. That is indeed foxhunting too. You just need to take a deep breath and accept that you are off base. If I was Canadian I would take offense at some of your characterizations of Canadian foxhunting.
It looks like a fun ride, for sure.
come visit us, you would like the hound work, I bet.

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@xeroxchick funny one for you, as a Brit now living in Canada, I had all sorts of images of hounds, hunt staff, correct attire, when a guy said he wanted to buy my advertised horse for hunting…

Took a bit of confusion before I worked out that he wanted of horse to shoot from!

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