Friesian World Championship Show?

It isn’t just IFSHA - any “breed show circuit” is designed specifically so horses don’t have to compete against all breeds. Many of the breeds have their show circuits - Arabian, Morgan, Andalusian, Friesian, the list goes on. These show circuits are great because it gives people and their horses a chance to compete on “equal footing” - but the best-of-the-best of the performance horses also tend to compete on the open circuit as well.

I stopped by as I was traveling for work in the area, and was disappointed by the turnout too - the economy, whatever, I agree, the small classes mean much less competition. There was not much emphasis on the sport horse type, so if that is what you were looking for at IFSHA, I don’t think it was the forum…

There are many reputable Friesian breeders, and Friesian cross breeders, you just have to look - and realize IFSHA is not the only resource. I have a Friesian cross stallion who showed through Grand Prix on the open circuit - Cadence - and breed some nice crosses as well. We register with AWS and Friesian Heritage Horse. FHH has inspections, DNA requirements, and different divisions for sport horse type or “utility” type - aka the fun, every day riding horse. So it helps educate people that not all crosses are sport horses, and gives them a valid registration option with differentiation between different types of horses. It also has programs to support and encourage showing on the “open” circuit, as well as supporting USDF awards.

Every registry is different, all have their strengths - both the purebred and crossbred registries (and there are multiple registries for both!). When looking for a Friesian, realize some breeders emphasize the sport type - such as Iron Springs Farm, and others are focused on the driving type, or saddle seat type. So before looking for a breeder, you need to decide what type of horse you are interested in, then narrow your focus.

[QUOTE=TullyMars;6612391]
Hey there, did anyone get a chance to see the Friesian World Championship Show this past week in Del Mar? I was a little disappointed with the low turn out, and unfortunatly the quality of the horses. ![/QUOTE]

Just want to say that the show had little or no advance publicity in San Diego. Not even the local horse mag mentioned it and all they do is infomercials !

There are two dressage Friesians at my barn; I asked one owner if she went to the show and she said no because she heard about it too late.

It’s too bad it didn’t attract more entries (there were 80 horses); it has so much potential. The showgrounds are the best on the West Coast, for horses, exhibitors and spectators.

Thank you to everyone who posted regarding the Friesian show. I am more educated now and now have a better idea of where and what I am looking for in the Friesian crossbreds. You have been wonderful and showed me what else is out there and I think that it was a sad set of circumstances that this was my first exposure to a world show and the same horse is in 10 of those and is now being touted as the 10 x world champion half bred! Goodness gracious! I think I need to go back to my hunter world and be quiet!

Thanks again everyone for your expertise!

Stick around you might like it here :slight_smile:

Cornerstone Sporthorses here in Florida is another source for nice FSA youngsters, although they don’t have a website yet. If you decide you want a Friesian Sporthorse, you’ve got some great references here. I’d buy from jdeb (Saucony Creek) or Hidden Promise or Cornerstone Sporthorses any day of the week, and of course I’m pretty proud of my own horses as well.

-Gigha

Wanted to go!

I wanted to go but I’m in NorCal and couldn’t get off of work. Was at our local Keuring in Santa Rosa this month and we had some wonderful horses in attendance.

Would love to see some video clips.

Well…the conformationaly challenged World Champion part bred is heading to the breeding shed…just been announced… I guess that I don’t breed because I do not have a true superstar that should be bred…and I have 6 geldings! :)…but this really saddens me to see this quality of horse go to the breeding shed to reproduce sub quality horses. I guess that this happens every day.

[QUOTE=TullyMars;6629136]
Well…the conformationaly challenged World Champion part bred is heading to the breeding shed…just been announced… I guess that I don’t breed because I do not have a true superstar that should be bred…and I have 6 geldings! :)…but this really saddens me to see this quality of horse go to the breeding shed to reproduce sub quality horses. I guess that this happens every day.[/QUOTE]

Pay no attention to that unqualified stallion behind the curtain! :lol:

Use this FSA man:
http://www.riveroaksfarm.net/Stallions.html

and maybe (in the future), this FSA guy :slight_smile:
http://sauconycreeksporthorses.com/upd_8_22_11/2011_foal_files/Inspection%20aHemis%20Oct%202012%20052.jpg
http://sauconycreeksporthorses.com/upd_8_22_11/2011_foal_files/shapeimage_3.png

Hemingway SCS, 2011 FSA colt by Trakehner stallion EH Hofrat (Gribaldi x Guter Planet) out of KFPS Friesian mare Auster des Dragons de Soie.
He scored over 85% and was reserve champion at his inspection yesterday, (scored by USDF judge Tina Drake. :))

Quality need not suffer when it comes to Friesian Sporthorses!! :slight_smile:

Just want to say THANK YOU to all of you that sent me the wonderful links and faith in the quality! I should know that there are two sides, but I was sure as an uneducated Friesian person I was supposedly seeing the best in the world! Some of the horses links you sent me made me say WOW and maybe I will be a convert!!! Give me some time! Maybe the hunters will be retiring and I will start shopping for one of those beauties to grace my modest abode! Thanks again!

[QUOTE=TullyMars;6629136]
Well…the conformationaly challenged World Champion part bred is heading to the breeding shed…just been announced… I guess that I don’t breed because I do not have a true superstar that should be bred…and I have 6 geldings! :)…but this really saddens me to see this quality of horse go to the breeding shed to reproduce sub quality horses. I guess that this happens every day.[/QUOTE]

Curiosity is killing me as to who this “conformationally challenged World Champion part bred” is, could someone PM me? (Or email me at RiverOaksFarmFL@aol.com.)

I think I already mentioned it in this thread – probably less than 5% of the Friesian crosses bred in the US are true Friesian Sporthorses. It has been a slow uphill battle to try to improve the public’s perception of Friesian crosses in general, and educate people about Friesian Sporthorses in particular. But there is progress being made, and I think the FSA is helping significantly. There are some breeders producing some very nice Friesian Sporthorses (like myself, and Saucony, and Hidden Promise, and Cornerstone) who shouldn’t be discounted because of the irresponsible things the other 95% of breeders might be doing. (By the way, I think this thread is fabulous because it has provided the opportunity to clear up some misconceptions and share some positive information about Friesian Sporthorses, which is always a nice thing. I’m glad you started it, TullyMars!)

River Oaks, Saucony, Cornerstone or Hidden Promise, do you guys ever hit any California shows? Want to do a retry! I thought Del Mar was the gold standard and I would love to see the REAL deal in person!

IFSHA moves around a lot too; this year it was in CA, but the previous years it’s been in Las Vegas, MO and VA. So, maybe the poor turnout was from East Coasters not wanting to travel that far.

[QUOTE=TullyMars;6630758]
River Oaks, Saucony, Cornerstone or Hidden Promise, do you guys ever hit any California shows? Want to do a retry! I thought Del Mar was the gold standard and I would love to see the REAL deal in person![/QUOTE]

You might have to plan an east coast road trip :smiley: :smiley:

[QUOTE=Megaladon;6631320]
IFSHA moves around a lot too; this year it was in CA, but the previous years it’s been in Las Vegas, MO and VA. So, maybe the poor turnout was from East Coasters not wanting to travel that far.[/QUOTE]

I’m not discounting that holding the IFSHA show in California may have been part of the problem (good point, Megaladon) but I think the biggest issue is that the truly competitive horses are much more likely to be found competing on the open show circuit rather than IFSHA.

Yep. I show a Ster mare for a breeder. They went to Grand Nationals in Saint Louis, and then gave it a shot when it was way out in CA… (we’re in MI) We decided after that not to attend the world show when it’s out on the west coast. The trip is just too hard on horses who are not used to a ton of long distance hauling- they were pooped before the show even began. 2011 in Virginia was much more doable for us- one long day of hauling and it’s done. Same for Saint Louis. I know another of the barns in our region who had a good string of horses last year in VA decided not to drag out to CA either.

As far as the “good horses” being on the open circuit… OK… I buy that in dressage. But for non-dressage horses, what circuit would that be? Saddle Seat, Hunter Pleasure, Western Pleasure don’t really offer an all breed sort of thing. The horses at IFSHA are horses who have competed at regionals to qualify, and their owners like them enough to pay for them to show at IFSHA. If nobody’s showing their “better” horses there, well the top horse in the ring takes the World Championship. If somebody’s got something nicer at home, they have the option of playing the game and taking the title.