Funny Cide to race July 4th in NY

More photos - Rochester’s Democrat & Chronicle July 5, 2007 photo gallery (15 shots) by Jay Capers

Article Democrat & Chronicle 7-5-07 “Fans cheer Funny Cide to victory at Finger Lakes”

The overflow crowd certainly enjoyed his performance, too. The official attendance was 11,429, but that was calculated at the usual time, after the day’s sixth race. However, fans were still streaming in when Funny Cide and seven other horses left the paddock for the eighth race.

There hadn’t been more than 5,500 fans betting horses at Finger Lakes on any one day since 1994. It had been 29 years since the track drew more than 10,000.

“This proves horse racing isn’t dead,” said Steve Martin, the track’s director of operations. “You just need stars.”

Funny Cide is that star. Fans flocked to the paddock before the race for an up-close look at the horse who won Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes in 2003 and the Jockey Gold Cup in 2004.

They clapped as he entered the saddling area. They jammed toward the front row to take his picture.

Even the competitors, like long-time Finger Lakes trainer Mike Ferraro, took a long look at Funny Cide as Smullen strapped on the saddle.

As for the Saratoga race he could be pointed to its a turf race, something Funny has to date seriously disliked running on: Albany Times Union 7/5/07 “Like old times for Funny Cide”

Knowlton and his team may be considering is the 28th West Point Handicap for state-breds on the Saratoga turf Aug. 12

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I don’t quite get it.
A Derby, Preakness and JCGC winner reduced to running in a minor stakes race at a 2nd tier track to get a win.
I think it’s more sad than exciting myself.[/QUOTE]

It’s more sad that you feel this way. It’s nice to see that the owners are not snobbish and look down uppon their roots and home town. Funny Cide was not reduced to anything. And I don’t see where a $100,000 purse is minor. The crowd attendance should be enough to show you that people still love and respect him. I wish I could of attended the race. I for one can’t afford to go to the Derby, Preakness or any of the other high profile races. It’s nice that to see the high profile horses (race horses, Olympic champions, ect) come out and meet the many fans that couldn’t come to other venues.

Video: WSYR (Syracuse) ABC “Thousands Turn Out to See Funny Cide”

Again, when was the last time Finger Lake’s track - and more importantly horse racing outside of the Triple Crown chase - a large posiive news story in the local news? Good for the track, sport, and fans.

Obviously thousands upon thousands of people went to the track for the first time. I really hope the track knowing this was going to be the case took as many steps as they could to make it exceptionally positive.

I have absolutely no problem with once great horses making appearances at small tracks for the fans. Red Rum and Desert Orchid were carted all over the place, and thousands showed up. Seattle Slew did a couple of laps at Longacres, right at the height of his prowess, so that the locals of the city he was named after could have a chance to see him. Silky Sullivan made regular appearances at Santa Anita. They were not dropped in class though.
I still think seeing a Derby and JCGC winner slumming it in a $100k stake is kinda sad (and yes, $100k is a minor pittance in todays world of multi-million dollar races), it just illustrates how far he has fallen. I would have prefered to have seen him retired with a bit of dignity myself, he more than deserved it. I think there would have been an outcry if a horse like Desert Orchid was trotted out in less than top races.
I had huge hopes for Funny Cide, a gelding almost winning the TC, hed be around for years, I thought we finallly had another John Henry-Kelso-Forego, so yeah I dont exactly get excited about seeing where he is now.

“John Henry-Kelso-Forego”

Ah! But instead, we’re talking about a Kentucky Derby winner!

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I still think seeing a Derby and JCGC winner slumming it in a $100k stake is kinda sad (and yes, $100k is a minor pittance in todays world of multi-million dollar races), it just illustrates how far he has fallen.[/QUOTE]

Forgive me for asking, but where are all of these “multi”-million dollar races? I can only think of three right off hand–two Breeders’ Cup races and another halfway around the world. I could see a complaint about running in state bred races (I didn’t even bother to look at the book on this race,) but a purse of this size doesn’t meet the qualification of “slumming.” Just to add, alot of the noble greats in the '30s and '40s ran in low purse overnight handicaps between stakes tries.

There are over 50 races in the world every year with purses of $1m or greater.
There are over 150 races with purses of $500k or greater.
There are over 600 races with purses of $100k or greater, and that’s just Graded races, add in the non-graded and listed stuff and you’re probably in excess of 1000 races with pots worth $100k or better. Hell, I’ve seen optional claiming races with purses closing in on $100k.
To paraphrase one time major player in the high dollar yearling stakes, Nelson Bunker Hunt, “a $100k isn’t what it used to be”.

If he does run at Saratoga they are pointing him to the West Point Handicap (NYB) which is a stakes nominated race but hasn’t been the West Point Stakes since 1980.

In it’s 28th running, this is a $100,000 1 1/8 Miles turf race for August 12th. So not unlike the Finger Lakes offering in the purse, but again he’s likely to be a huge fan favorite. That is unlike last year’s Grade 1 $500k Woodward, which I attended, against the likes of a top notch older horse like Premium Tap where he was barely mentioned as a contender. In the West Point he has a fair chance to win and be finally a winner at Spa, his quasi “home”.

Although turf and poly track are two things Funny hasn’t performed well over.

The uber beloved Saratoga fan favorite - perhaps even slightly more so then Funny Cide - Fourstardave had won this race in 1989, 1991 and crossed the finish line first in 1993 but was DQ’d to 5th.

Collecting dust like some old trophy or a relic of another time like an elevator attendant isn’t really necessary if he’s still able to run competitively, earn money, and put a smile the faces of people in the stands.

How many of those races have conditions Funny Cide is currently eligible for? Would you be as critical if Funny Cide was using an allowance race at Belmont at a lesser purse as a tuneup? What’s the difference?

The difference is it wasn’t a tuneup, it’s the only level he is competitive at anymore, his prior race was an optional claimer where he finished down the field. As a multiple G1 winner, a dual classic winner, a horse who came within several lengths of winning a TC, he doesn’t owe anyone anything anymore. If he were mine he would be up to his fetlocks in clover for the rest of his life.
It’s like watching a former heavyweight champ fighting at your local gym, or Ronaldinho playing with the Portland Timbers.

You miss the point (maybe because you’re still young)

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I have absolutely no problem with once great horses making appearances at small tracks for the fans. Red Rum and Desert Orchid were carted all over the place, and thousands showed up. Seattle Slew did a couple of laps at Longacres, right at the height of his prowess, so that the locals of the city he was named after could have a chance to see him. Silky Sullivan made regular appearances at Santa Anita. They were not dropped in class though.
I still think seeing a Derby and JCGC winner slumming it in a $100k stake is kinda sad (and yes, $100k is a minor pittance in todays world of multi-million dollar races), it just illustrates how far he has fallen. I would have prefered to have seen him retired with a bit of dignity myself, he more than deserved it. I think there would have been an outcry if a horse like Desert Orchid was trotted out in less than top races.
I had huge hopes for Funny Cide, a gelding almost winning the TC, hed be around for years, I thought we finallly had another John Henry-Kelso-Forego, so yeah I dont exactly get excited about seeing where he is now.[/QUOTE]

I suppose every all-star athlete or Olympic star should retire with “dignity” when they are no longer able to perform at the level that they originally became famous at. Yup - they should just quit doing what they’re better than most at. Never mind playing on the company ball team, forget running 10k’s cause it feels good to be out running with the crowd. In fact - they should all just stop doing what they’re good at, because it’s dissapointing to their shallow fans who don’t want to have to watch them perform when they’re no longer at their peak!?!

Let’s just hope that when YOU get a little older and are not so excellent at whatever it is you’re excellent at, that you remember to retire with dignity instead of continuing at a pace that you can stiil be successful at.

Funny Cide’s appearance at Finger Lakes breathed new life into a sport that desperately needs heroes. In addition, his presence brought attention and financial support to retiring thoroughbreds by aiding the Finger Lakes Thoroughbred Adoption Program. Sounds like Funny Cide and his people are actually giving something back. Undignified? Hardly.

Besides that, he is still quite an exceptional horse with undeniable talent. At the age of 5 he had a nagging back problem that had to be overcome withtime and treatment. It isn’t fair to ask or expect a horse to compete at his previous level intil he’s ready. Every racehorse (or athlete, for that matter) needs a confidence-builder at some time. He got a good one.

I was at the races that day. And I’ve seen some good horses win some big races.
But the crowd at Finger Lakes cheered for Funny Cide like you wouldn’t believe. For nearly 2 minutes you could not hear yourself scream because of all the yelling around you. Funny Cide won and he knew he won. I was not far from Robin, and I saw her eyes well up with tears. She was genuinely moved by Funny’s performance and the support of the fans. They loved that he won, and I believe that they would have cheered for him even if he had not beaten the nice (local) Johnie Bye Night. At many of the “big” races, you don’t get nearly the reaction he got here.
Believe me, when the crowd of 12,000 roared for the “gutsy gelding” and the mob of owners spilled out in front of the winner’s circle, his dignity was certainly never in question.

Shame on you for implying such.

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Announced official attendance at Finger Lakes: 11,400 which is the 2nd largest ever in the history of that track and 2,000 more then were at Santa Anita to see Lava Man’s historic win last weekend.

Nice to see the support in Central New York![/QUOTE]

Psst, Glimmer! :wink: It was the Hollywood Gold Cup for Lava Man and the great Diver, so it’s held at Hollywood Park, not SA … so it’s no surprise that so few people showed up. The place is a pit. :no:

And as for Drvmb1ggl3, everyone just has to realize that there are very few parades said poster doesn’t relish raining on. :wink:

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Psst, Glimmer! :wink: It was the Hollywood Gold Cup for Lava Man and the great Diver, so it’s held at Hollywood Park, not SA … so it’s no surprise that so few people showed up.[/QUOTE]

Doh! Indeed my error as I knew better. A pit perhaps but it does have Vic Stauffer making the calls so its not a bad deal.

Sometimes those unspiffy tracks make for the best fun of enjoying the racing rather then the food. Turf Paradise in AZ is a wee bit run down and in a spooky part of Phoenix but a darn good fun time to be had. Heck even the old Fair races, since gone, in the Berkshires of Mass (Northampton) could be a good time on occassion.

I’m at Hollywood Park every weekend. If you think that’s a pit, I need to introduce you to Stockton. :slight_smile:

I’m with you Drvmb1ggl3…
Even Michelle Kwan, with 9 US titles and 5 world titles, knew it was time to quit rather than compete. Now she can do those skating tours… no competitive pressure but she still does what she’s great at and no one can say she should give it up and fans still get to see her.
I have no idea if you can really compare the two situations but I think Funny Cide is overdue for racing retirement.

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I have no idea if you can really compare the two situations but I think Funny Cide is overdue for racing retirement.[/QUOTE]

To do what in “retirement”… stay at the farm and bake cookies for the stable hands?

My guess is that most people will say he’s a perfect goodwill ambassador for the sport and could make track appearances associated with fundraising and media visibility of the sport. Although correct me if I’m wrong didn’t he do just that on Wednesday and make money? Did the people in the stands throw rocks at him, call him names or otherwise mock him for racing in “just” a $100k race? Come on folks - he thrived on adoration and the roar of the crowd as I’m sure Johnny Bye Night did too.

Frankly for the entire sport, his racing on July 4th generated more positive press in the mainstream media for this sport than Invasor ever did. The latter was brilliant but not really adopted by the US media as being a golden child. A quick google news search will shows 166 article citations for this “nothing” race yet for comparisons Lava Man’s record-matching Hollywood Park victory, one for the history books, garnered 159 article citations.

As for Funny’s racing record it isn’t like he’s 0-20; in fact in his last 3 starts he is 1-0-2. I have no objections with him now doing a “smaller” race at Saratoga or DelPark this year. I’m quite certain the Sakatoga folks are winding down his career, but before he goes they want their fans to enjoy one or two more looks at him.

I’ll admit I was taken aback at first when I saw Funny Cide was racing at Finger Lakes.

But I’ve been completely converted to think that it was one of the most generous things his connections could have done for horse racing.

Don’t you think if Funny Cide was miserable racing that they’d retire him? Of course he doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone. I’m sure all his connectons realize that. And it’s not like they’ve dropped him into a completely unrespectable class. They could be entering him in allowance races and claimers at Belmont if they just wanted to make a buck off of him (and he’d probably be running against better competition!).

Look at all the good that came out of this. The second biggest crowd in Finger Lakes history, a confidence boosting-win for an old veteran, money donated to a great cause… and maybe if we’re lucky, a new racing fan or two was born out of the whole event. All I see are positives all the way around.

I think the best thing Funny Cide’s connection could do with him while he’s still sound and running is to use him as an ambassador to the sport. Heck, I almost think they should do a “goodbye tour” with him now. That’s going to bring a whole lot more good than him sitting in a paddock at the Kentucky Horse Park.

…and I guarantee you that out of those 12,000 people at Finger Lakes, I bet very few of them realized that his win on Wednesday was any less significant than his other career victories. From the sounds of it, I’m guessing it might as well have been the Kentucky Derby all over again in their eyes. :wink:

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There are over 50 races in the world every year with purses of $1m or greater.
There are over 150 races with purses of $500k or greater.
There are over 600 races with purses of $100k or greater, and that’s just Graded races, add in the non-graded and listed stuff and you’re probably in excess of 1000 races with pots worth $100k or better. Hell, I’ve seen optional claiming races with purses closing in on $100k.
To paraphrase one time major player in the high dollar yearling stakes, Nelson Bunker Hunt, “a $100k isn’t what it used to be”.[/QUOTE]

I think my question concerned multi-million dollar races only. Thanks for the info on everything but that though.

I don’t usually like to get into debates like these on here, but I just wanted to say that my husband went to Finger Lakes to watch the race on the 4th (I was stuck building a shed at the barn with my trainer’s husband). My husband has been to all the big tracks around the U.S., as he is a big racing fan, and he said it was great. He said that it was so energetic and loud when the race went off that short of it being a HUGE race (like the Derby) it was the best race he has seen. I also second the notion that it is a good thing for people to see Finger Lakes and to hopefully come out more often and support the horse’s here. And any money that was donated to FLAP is great! I know all we have here is a measly low end track ;), but we still take pride in it and the horse’s.

p.s. if you look at my profile pic you can see my new boy who I got from Finger Lakes less than 2 months ago. Maybe I should have ran him on the 4th!

very handsome boy.

I loved it when Lost in the Fog came to the Northern California tracks. Dads would hold their kids on their shoulders so they could get a look