She must be awfully desperate to sell this horse.
Needs the money for school? Can’t afford board anymore?
This could so easily turn into one of those expensive life lessons … both financially and emotionally.
I still say nononononononononononononono.
The buyer obviously isn’t hurting for cash here. Why not fly up and try the horse?
This just gets weirder and weirder…
At first glance, it sounds like a fair enough offer (let’s just disregard the fact that they are nuts), but I’m leary that they will not pay upfront for her expenses to haul him home… I’m sure they are thinking he will sell, if not to them, then someone, and they won’t have to pay, plus–I think they are counting on owner not wanting to drive all the way back just to pick him up. This is going to be right around Christmas probably.
I’m afraid–if I even agreed to ever do something like this (snork)-- I would have to insist on the professional hauler, at the very least, for his trip home. That should be outlined clearly in the contract, also if horse is injured to pasture puff status, they just bought him!
I still say don’t do it though! :no:
ps… what is their reason for NOT hopping a flight to come and try him??? I just don’t get it.
Besides my previous thought of nonono and “why doesn’t the buyer just fly up”, my second thought is, just say forget it! This can’t possibly be the only person in the country interested in this horse. I’d tell this “potential buyer” to forget it, she’s a waste of time. I was exhausted just reading the thread.
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Besides my previous thought of nonono and “why doesn’t the buyer just fly up”, my second thought is, just say forget it! This can’t possibly be the only person in the country interested in this horse. I’d tell this “potential buyer” to forget it, she’s a waste of time. I was exhausted just reading the thread.[/QUOTE]
Yup, it’s exhausting to even think about isn’t it?
With apologies to Monty Python:
Scam, scam scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, scam, scammity scam, wonderful scam!
I can honestly say I’m baffled too.
She’s not desperate to sell the horse- she wouldn’t mind having the extra money, is trying to change disciplines, student teaching next semester, graduating, moving to who knows where, if she sells the horse she can sell the truck and trailer (I know, I know, sell the truck and trailer anyway… I have a horse and no rig, and I live…) and she’s had some other hits on the horse, but nothing has gotten this far in the sale process. I’ve never had a problem moving a horse, so I don’t know why it’s a big deal. Granted, I’m from the upper-middle-class Chicago Suburbs and market to them. She’s from the St. Louis area, though… so you’d think…
Horse is priced between 5-10k. Mid range. Fancy horse, has the basics, almost always champ in local company, ribbons in good company- just needs to be more consistant.
I think my friend is mostly thinking about the since her trainer sold her the horse, the trainers daughter (FL trainer) will obviously like the horse and buy it.
Pegasus- good tips, I’ll pass that on.
I don’t understand not flying up- I mean, whats a plane tickets from FL to Nashville? $180 round trip? Plus $50 gas? Plus another $30 hotel room, or heck! Just do it in one day. So we’re looking at $400 to come see it, daddy and daughter. Then $1200 to ship, professionally (as quoted vaugley by my trainer). No insurance policy, no return shipping fees, horse is bought for local price… it’d about even out.
Just curious - has your friend asked why the potential buyers can’t fly up to see the horse? Sorry if you said, and I missed it.
I just called her and drilled it into her head OVER AND OVER AND OVER again…
I’m not sure if they’ve given her a reason why not yet.
“But, they offered to let me stay with them in their house on the ocean!”
bashing head against desk
If she’s still considering it, she’s probably gonna do it. Let’s just hope it works out somehow.
I was hoping you’d all be wrong about her doing it anyway, but I’m feeling like she will likely be hauling the horse.
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I just called her and drilled it into her head OVER AND OVER AND OVER again…
I’m not sure if they’ve given her a reason why not yet.
“But, they offered to let me stay with them in their house on the ocean!”
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OK…now it’s starting to sound like a script for a cheesy horror flick.
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OK…now it’s starting to sound like a script for a cheesy horror flick.[/QUOTE]
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You know, I like to think that as a collective group we can help people avoid being hit by the clue train as we have in our own experiences…but sometimes people just have to learn the hard way.
Personally, I wouldn’t waste any more energy trying to talk her out of it. She seems to think they’re on the up and up.
We all disagree. (which is weird, being COTH…I keep expecting the universe to implode since we all seem to be in consensus on this)
Sometimes, you just have to let people make their own mistakes. Maybe it will turn out great.
I think at this stage, the more you talk against it, the more determined she’s going to be to do it. You know - the sort of, “It’s my horse and my trainer, and I can do what I want!” mentality. I just hope it doesn’t end up getting her in a mess. Or, if it does, that that stay in the “house on the ocean” will be worth it.
You can’t save people from themselves. Ask me how I know about this. :sigh:
Well, maybe your friend is getting a good feeling about this. Maybe the potential buyers have a phobia of flying, but really love the horse. I have no idea. :lol:
Although if they’re so in love with the horse, I don’t know why they wouldn’t just buy him outright in KY (sight unseen) and ship him down there. For what they’re going to spend insuring him, leasing him, putting your friend up, and shipping him back if it doesn’t work out, they could have practically bought a second horse for the same price. It sounds too good to be true, and we all know what they say about things that sound too good to be true…
Best of luck to your friend, and here’s to hoping it all works out to everyone’s benefit.
Umm ok so they want your friend to give their daughter a lesson or two??? Have they seen her ride??? Not bashing your friends riding capabilities at all but WTF??? When did providing lessons for a kid be part of the deal of the sale… and where is trainer in all of this surely she would have something to say about a stranger giving her pupil lessons…
Again WTF??? They aren’t going to pay for her a hotel??? She will be speding 3 days possibly with a family she doesn’t even know??? Um… I sure hope she doesn’t end up chained in a basement begging for mercy from Mistress Pain…:lol: seriously though… THAT totally creeps me out…you don’t know what these people are like… I could say I have a house on a beach…too untill you get there and it is a shack on a swamp… There are predators out there… IF she goes (And really she shouldn’t) they should have to pay for a HOTEL for her to stay in… not with them…also they could spend that time wearing her down on price and god knows what else… Who knows what they will put in the Kool-Aid they give her with her supper… really this stinks like 7 day old roadkill…
She sees this as a vacation or adventure. She’s taking the horse. I hope this all works out & she isn’t crying to you a few months from now that either her horse hasn’t been returned (or it will be returned broken & unsellable) or it’s not paid for yet.
Sometimes people only learn when really bad terrible things happen to them firsthand despite all the warnings from others who have been there done that. :rolleyes:
At some point, you just have to say, “I’ve told you what I think about it (and so have 1 billion people on COTH), now it’s up to you to make up your mind yourself.” And keep your mouth shut.
IF she goes down there, I’d recommend she not go by herself. Bring along a (male if possible) friend and keep in touch with those back home on a regular scheduled basis. It’s a good idea on a road trip like that anyway. Even if the people are on the up and up, she’s got a witness to whatever is said/done.
I think that if this was my horse I would be more likely to do the month trial if the family came and tried the horse (not saying that I would do the trial). I think traveling that far can be very stressful for a horse and having the kid try him at home would allow your friend to see if it’s a good fit or not and if it not the kid can look else where for a horse.
Plus, what happen if, god forbid, something happens to the horse on the way down there? Who pays the bills if the horse can’t be ridden right away?
