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And would you beleive that WS started out riding ASBs? :yes:[/QUOTE]
Yes, I heard those stories and even saw a picture of him showing one.
AAAAAAnd the troll is back… but visiting the George Morris thread in the H/J Forum… under the name Big Yellow Taxi… :rolleyes:
Yes - I noticed - she called me retarded!!! Is she sick or something, no, really, what’s with her mentality. I’m honestly amazed that someone would get a kick out of being a troublemaker. Should we be feeling sorry for her? I’m going to be damaged for life now.
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She’s not right that is for sure… Don’t worry what Short Yellow Bus said… you’re not retarded … your just Canadian eh?!?:winkgrin::lol:
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Yup - and proud of it, too!
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Yes, I heard those stories and even saw a picture of him showing one.;)[/QUOTE]
wm. steinkraus won the good hands equitation finals.
i’m going to find the troll…
Listen, I have never met George Morris, but this behavior sounds disgusting, ungracious and rude.
Yes, if the events alleged where real about kicking people in the butt, on purpose, he can be sued. I am a rider but I am also a paralegal. In CT, assault is in this statute assault in [B]GeneralStatutes§ 53a-61(a)(1) and it is clear. Also, he could be sued in NY and even the U.S. territories-- then he is wiped out and not endorsed. So if he is photographed at a function doing this, you can use it as evidence and there are only 12 states such as NY where he can be taped via phone, without his consent. Photos and videotapes are evidence as are other devices that some people use.
If Mr. Morris wants to be sued, he can continue to allegedly kick or scream at clients, jump crews, riders, witnesses or vendors at a horse show in any state and be defeated. Yes, emotional, mental and physical well-being can be determined by a court as a settlement and part of the charges to increase a penalty. A lawyer or a paralegal or a marshal can serve him papers on the grounds in good faith and merit on the majority of the days of the year except American legal holidays.[/B]
Many horse shows and clinics are supervised but you can be used individually or as a corporation to simplify and discourage this. Frankly, Mr. George Morris, on a different note, failed some famous Olympic riders who he gave advice to so I think you have to judge for yourself, your horse, or your staff when, how, where and why he is a difficult, harmful person or a delightful, wise person.
I believe he failed the some of event team in Australia --maybe accurate despite some riders winning: [B]more people felt he was bad with eventing advice in Greece or in Hong Kong when eventers didn’t medal as well as they hoped. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE SHOULD RETIRE OR LEARN TO NOT WORK WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE.
I hope that gives some insight and some candor.[/B]
@TB lover or Warmblood cross :lol: :encouragement: right on, you resurrected this thread from the graveyard just in time for Halloween! :applause::applause:
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Attack of the Zombie Thread!
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Haha, yeah. Could write a book about it called “Nine years a Zombie”.
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I only read through a few posts from 2008 but this appears to be a zombie thread full of treasure.
Commenting to remember to read this all at some point. Since this is Halloween, sometimes zombies lead the way to chocolate, popcorn, and boxed wine.
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GM is like 80 years old now. I don’t think he worries about being sued or of what anyone thinks at this point :lol: All I know is I love his books and his attention to detail, and I love watching Youtube videos of his clinics. I personally haven’t seen any videos of him being super nasty- maybe he stopped that behavior before filming was such a common thing? I’ve only heard that he told someone not to be a dumbbell and told another that they ride like a soup-sandwich. Honestly though, if he told me that, I would laugh hysterically because that visual is just amazing! (And yea, I pretty much DO ride like a soup-sandwich right now I’m so out of shape! :winkgrin:)
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PS: why did this suddenly get resurrected? Is that a COTH thing, to find old threads and bring them up on Halloween?
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The post that resurrected this thread reads like an email I’d find in my spam folder :lol:
FWIW, I’ve never cared one way or another about ol’ George. He’s surely earned his reputation, but I’m not one to follow anyone with unyielding devotion. As far as his blunt, sometimes rude, comments he has been reported to make to clinic participants… Well, I feel that’s not new information. You know what you’re getting into.
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Odd how first time posters often do bring up old posts and in this case we all get a lecture (in bolded paragraphs yet).
But in this case this is a great read, even if so very old.
BTW - whichever poster said he was a p. poor rider, they are so wrong. He got on GP dressage horse and got a tune out of it, even tho he is a jump rider…he just has that knack and feel. (I could look up which horse it was, but what the heck.)
Also, GM is very untech, so when I wrote a card to thank him for his w/e, he wrote back to me! In person, he is witty and personable.
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George Morris is so old that he died but people were too afraid to tell him
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Unfortunately, I can second this comment by direct experience. Years ago, I lived in NJ near his stables. I am not a Hunter Jumper rider but have known this name for years. I decided to visit the farm one day and wandered into the indoor arena. He was giving a lesson to six riders or so. All without stirrup irons as I recall. He turned to me and said if I wanted to audit the class that would be $30. He was quite cold and direct.
Now, I realize I walked onto the property uninvited. Now I realize that was a blunder on my part so I give him that. The impression he made was it’s all about the $$$ This was in 1985 or so.
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Attack of the greenies! Melusine, you should be thankful he didn’t press trespassing charges.
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I’m so glad the thread was brought back from the dead with such insightful, helpful musings. [/sarcasm]
I had a great experience riding in a recent GM clinic, never saw or heard anything rude or nasty come out of his mouth. He was critical, exacting, and demanded effort (you heard it otherwise if you didn’t put in the effort to listen and execute), but by no means was he mean. If you tried and you paid attention, didn’t waste his time, then he was very fair. In that way, he was one of the most fair people I’ve ridden with. Terrifying yes, but fair. There was one heavy set rider that, if GM was as cruel as he might have been back in the day, or as bad as people still think him to be, would have been eaten alive or kicked out. Nope, she held her own and I watched three hours of her ride over the course of the three days, and not even a hint about her weight from GM. He was complimentary of her riding ability when I was observing. Only on the last day when she crashed through an oxer and got on her horse’s neck (arguably causing the crash) did he state that a lighter, fitter rider doesn’t cause as much of a hardship for the horse in that situation. That’s not cruel or unfair. This is a sport, after all. No different than my hockey coach saying “Well, if he didn’t weight 295 pounds he might be able to get up and down the ice quicker.”
He was also very pleasant and charming in person at the book reading, and super pleasant when I had a few seconds one-on-one with him. No he’s not a huggy-touchy-feeley type even as old age has mellowed, but he’s no monster either. Don’t like him? Don’t ride with him. It’s so simple. No one in this sport deserves blind devotion, not even GM.
And I don’t know why anyone would wander into Hunterdon uninvited and expect a free lesson.
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You win the Halloween prize for best use of the holiday theme! :winkgrin:
@Melusine, can you imagine being him tho? So many people after your time and knowledge, everyone trying to get a piece of you. I don’t blame him for being blunt, he probably always has people sneaking into clinics and training sessions. (I’m not saying you were sneaking, but in general)
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