Getting Jumped Out Of Tack - Ideas On Fixing This?

[Dr_Doolittle]

[QUOTE=Janet;5944231]
Yes Belle.

No, I was not able to save it.

But I was unhurt except for my ego and maybe a couple of small bruises.

It was at the Connemara show, and I forgot to compensate for the fact that the lines were set for ponies. I got her WAY too deep to the “out” of a line, she almost came to a standstill, and then LAUNCHED over the fence.[/QUOTE]

Whew, well at least it appears that you landed relatively softly (as opposed to a faceplant), yikes!

Yeah, that launching from a standstill stuff…VERY hard to stay with! :eek:

Agree with the other posters’ suggestions, and one more observation. IME, the softer and more following you are with you hand/arm, the less likely the horse is to “jump hard and launch”; easier said than done when the rider is expecting the big overjump, which often causes defensive riding and clutching with the reins. When I am working with students who tend to hold too much (and who have horses who jump against the hand as a result), I work on getting them to let go more, work them through small grids so that they can allow the horse to jump up to them and wait for the jump instead of anticipate it, and often either have them knot their reins and hold the knot with one hand, other hand on hip (alternate), or have them jump with driving reins.

Good luck, I know this is a tough one, and we over 50 types have to work extra hard on leg and core strength!

[purplnurpl]

@gooselover;5940023

A few weeks ago, I posted about going back to GAG since I felt “starter” was a bit too much for me after our last show. However, yesterday, we did do starter again and won AGAIN. BUT…here’s my problem.

While my horse and I did MUCH better from the last show to this show, I got jumped out of my tack on a couple of occasions. Now, I do not know if this has anything to do with it, but my OTTB sometimes jumps WAY too high over a fence.

How can I improve me NOT getting jumped out of the tack? I am a rerider…56 years old, and doing well in my opinion, but I want to DO BETTER. So, suggestions???

buying a new/different saddle is what helped me.

My first saddle was an A/P Barnsby with knee rolls.

I switched to a jumping saddle with a good knee and calf block.

It made all the difference.

[Give_and_Take]

So a tighter leg helps some but ensuring that you’re stepping into your heel will keep your balance between your hip and heel. stepping onto your toe or even the ball over your foot puts your balance out of line so your body has to move to adjust - and with the horse moving underneath you momentum just takes over.

shoving your foot forward throws your body back and also takes your leg off the horse.

try stepping into your heel and grab mane so you stay balanced over the top.

had a giant warmblood who would over jump new fences and kick up behind. grab mane, weight in your heels and stay centered. they eventually figure out that’s alot of extra work.

and your pace should be the same to and away from the jump.

[olim2005]

Me too!!

[QUOTE=gooselover;5940023]
A few weeks ago, I posted about going back to GAG since I felt “starter” was a bit too much for me after our last show. However, yesterday, we did do starter again and won AGAIN. BUT…here’s my problem.

While my horse and I did MUCH better from the last show to this show, I got jumped out of my tack on a couple of occasions. Now, I do not know if this has anything to do with it, but my OTTB sometimes jumps WAY too high over a fence.

How can I improve me NOT getting jumped out of the tack? I am a rerider…56 years old, and doing well in my opinion, but I want to DO BETTER. So, suggestions???[/QUOTE]

Same thing was happening to me. I had been jumping really small for a long time and finally my horse was trained and we moved up to 3ft to 3’6" in lessons. He was doing great, but I had fallen behind.

I kept getting jumped out of the tack, reins got long, air everywhere, stirrups slipped. This is what helped:

1. I fixed my saddle with a rider pad. The lowest point was more over my leg and easier to stay secure. This made the most difference immediately.
2. Rode more forward and round to the fence to keep my horse from over jumping
3. Grabbed mane!!
4. Ride without stirrups in 2-point every day

Recently I switched to a different riser pad and all my problems came back so I would say a lot of it is saddle balance. Many years ago I was the girl that never came off, I could stay on horses no matter what. As I got older, it is harder, but I think I still have it in me.

[purplnurpl]

[QUOTE=sophie;5940831]
My Ottb mare used to over jump everything, and kick out over the jump for good measure. Made my legs and seat really tight, lol. With more mileage and practice, she now has a normal jump. I also replaced my jumping saddle (from a Henri de Rivel Advantage to a BdH forward flap) and the difference it made was immense! ). Riding with shorter stirrups helps. Practicing cantering in 2-point for 5 then 10 mn at a time will do wonders for strengthening your legs.
Be careful, if “shoving your feet in front of you” on landing, that you don’t slam your horse in the back. I can’t do that on mine - she’ll give me a piece of her mind.[/QUOTE]

I had to change saddles too. I was using an all purpose saddle with knee roll. I had to change to a more forward flap with knee and calf blocks. And I had to learn to CLOSE my knee on those blocks. Something I’m not great at…I’m a very loose rider.

Also, you haven’t shown us any video…but sometimes the horse’s jump needs a bit of tweaking. GAG is pretty small to be getting jumped out of the tack.
Maybe a bit more leg on your horse at take off will keep him moving forward in the air rather than up with a bit of lag time. But that is just a hunch—I have no idea if that’s even an issue…

[purplnurpl]

OMG that’s really funny. I just realized this was an old thread…I posted in 2011 and posted the SAME EXACT info.
funny stuff right there…

[bornfreenowexpensive]

[QUOTE=purplnurpl;7321076]
OMG that’s really funny. I just realized this was an old thread…I posted in 2011 and posted the SAME EXACT info.
funny stuff right there…[/QUOTE]

Too funny!..well it is an age old issue for a whole lot of us

I now want an up date from the OP. Hope it is going better!

Here was my green bean and me having a tough time staying with her. Can we say over achiever! She got better as she jumped more but everytime we restarted jumping again…her OVERjump comes back for a bit. She is coming back from an injury now (lost more than a year) and will hopefully start jumping before spring…I suspect she will do the same things again for a while. A neck strap is my solution…and I use it. Grabbing mane helps too. Sometimes I grab both!!!

[mareslave]

all the comments above are excellent. A GP rider also shared 2 with me: a well oiled saddle and oiled half chaps and try a leather girth (if your horse will allow one) as your well oiled sticky leg will get a wee bit more traction on the oiled sticky girth. every little bit helps - like full seat breeks.

2 GP riders gave me tubs of effx leder balsom- they’re riding the big stix (1.60) on hotties that buck too.

[sirensong4]

[QUOTE=kkindley;5941206]
Another thing to think about is are you moving forward enough to the fences. A friend has this problem when his horse minces around and gets to the fence and launches. All the scope in the world, but no impulsion. So there is no flowing energy, just an abrupt launch![/QUOTE]

This is Roxie in a nutshell. IF i keep her forward, we are fine. If i do not, then we are not.

Here’s me getting jumped out of the tack. Perfect distance and then a launch, just like you said. Caught me off guard. I wish my release was longer.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Y5CYbtqQpM/UICtay_GlHI/AAAAAAAAB7I/ba7XhnxwTeY/s1600/SitT+pic2.jpg

I know a lot of people have recommended shortening your stirrups, but I actually find that a shorter stirrup means I am more likely to get launched. A longer stirrup lets me wrap my leg around Roxie. Granted, she is like riding a propane tank. OP probably doesn’t have that problem.

[EvieG13]

Not helpful but on the launching from a standstill thing… in highschool my friend was sitting on the jumper school horse and laughing about how he’d jump anything. She was on a loose rein, he had one leg cocked and just chatting but he was facing a fence. “LOL I bet he’d even jump this right now if I clucked cluck cluck” Horse’s ears go up, head swings up and SPROING. Right over a 3’6" from dead stop/ half asleep. She somehow managed to save it but at the expense of cracked ribs from landing on his neck!

OP Best of luck. I know I am desperately out of shape. When I was a kid it was that jumped out of tack feeling that kept me from moving up the levels because my horse really went round over bigger stuff. Pretty to watch, not so much to ride!

[LisaB]

1. get a grab strap and keep your hands there and ride from your leg/seat only. If you can’t steer or stop like this, practice until you can.
2. if you find your leg slipping no matter how hard you work at it, it’s time to get a new saddle
3. while over the fence, think of pushing your butt back. Wild, I know but seriously works.

[Lord_Helpus]

Most people who are worried about being jumped loose will over compensate by making a big move with their upper bodies to stay with the horse.

This is exactly the wrong way to do it. The old “What goes forward must come back” theory applies here. If you make a big move with your upper body, you will be coming back quicker as the horse starts to descend. This gets you moving in the opposite direction from your horse and you are likely to get jumped loose.

The correct way to handle a horse which overjumps is to be very still with your upper body and let the horse come up to you. This way, as the horse reaches the apex of his jump you have not changed position, and will not be caught going backwards in the downhill portion of the jump. Since your base is the mirror image of your upper body, if it stays in one position, so will your base of support.

Of course, if your base of support is not strong enough to hold your upper body in place, the above advice will not work.