not that hard to figure out, actually.
In any case I’m in agreement with everybody here - maybe you worked for him Kaleigh, and saw some stuff that left a bad feeling in your mouth. I have no way of knowing that, really (and honestly, I know I’ve seen stuff like that that I’ve very much misinterpreted until I found out more details/information). But it does seem very tacky to be saying all this stuff so soon, on a thread meant to celebrate a life.
The man was an arrogant jerk. Just do a brief search, you all said so YOURSELVES! Sad when anyone dies but the false memories are a bit much. All sympathies to those who actually did love him and will miss him.
[QUOTE=Kaleigh007;4502618]
Wonder how Bethany feels about her Dad dying, seeing as he was such a wonderful father as well as a horseman.:no:[/QUOTE]
Had to step in — PLEASE, STOP. NOW, YOU ARE BEING TACKY. I would never guess to think how someone was feeling when her father died, especially if I could not spell her name. (It’s spelled Bethenny.)
Yea, I’m being tacky:rolleyes: that’s why I’m getting PM’s to the contrary? Here is one of them…
COTH is two-faced:
COTH can turn on people like a rabid pack of wolves over the most ridiculous of things. It does not matter which board you post on here, sooner or later you will get bitched slapped.
Good for you for having the guts to speak up & stand your ground.
Move Along, Folks, it’s a Troll
Kaleigh007 - until proven otherwise, you’re just a common, run-of-the-mill troll. If you’re not a troll, then you must be one very unhappy camper.
You’ve managed to insult just about everyone on this Forum whom I’ve valued through the years as friends, relatives, co-workers, horsemen, writers, photographers, announcers, or just plain good human beings.
I’m afraid you can’t even understand the issue which you’ve so blown out of reality. IT IS NOT NICE TO SPEAK ILL OF THE DEAD…ESPECIALLY WITHIN 24 HOURS OF A DEATH. Whatever ‘truth’ you’re peddling does not give you the right to hurt people.
Really now, who are you helping here? You’ve basically called us idol-worshipping nimrods that aren’t worth your time or attention.
I may not know everything but I do know when and where it is appropriate to speak or BE SILENT. Didn’t someone along the line teach you this fact of life? If not, then I actually do feel sorry for you.
Since you seem to be so superior to the rest of us, maybe you could share who you are, what you do in the horse biz, and, especially the $5,000 Mini-Prix Question of the Day…did you walk through fire once with Bobby? You present yourself as a person who has an ax to grind in a big way.
So, I’m sure you’ll write back something terribly brilliant to hurt me (though I do hate to get into a battle of wits with someone as unarmed as you). Go ahead, take some shots at me since both my mother and father are quite ill and I’ve got a lot on my mind, just spare people who can’t defend themselves due to their galloping ahead of the rest of us.
I’m sickened by this. Excuse me while I stick knitting needles in my ears.
Hallie I. McEvoy
Oh spare me your sanctimonious diatribe. Some of you are such hypocrites.
Glimmerglass
Schoolmaster Join Date: Jul. 2, 1999
Posts: 13,379
I loved the well-deserving slam on Bobby F. who I don’t care for one bit.
So call me a troll or whatever you all call someone who dares to go against the pack. Now back to the regularly scheduled COTH koombyah singing love fest.
You may be getting one or two PM’s in support of your rudeness, but that may be because those who support you don’t have the courage to show their true colors on the open board.
And bringing up speculation about the relationship Mr. Frankel had with his daughter? Have you no sense of decency?
I don’t understand the mindset that thinks it is okay to kick a man who is in the grave. What on earth are you trying to prove? He’s gone. Leave him be.
I believe its against COTH rules to post PMs on the forum for all to see. Hope the mods shut you the hell up Kaleigh since you don’t have the sense to do it yourself.
If you read the posts from Glimmer on this thread, you will NOT see her praising Mr. Frankel. She keeps her personal feelings for him to herself. She is quoting different news sources. She said he will be missed “as a trainer”.
So be careful who you call a hypocrite.
Did I post the name of the person who sent me the PM??? NO, I did not. I have to wonder if there will be such a “coming together” of the pack when PV kicks too?
Kaleigh, for heaven’s sake. START A NEW THREAD. Please.
Verbatim in Glimmers own words:
I loved the well-deserving slam on Bobby F. who I don’t care for one bit
I can reference the exact page and post if you want but you can just do the search and find it. It isnt hard.
All done.
Do everyone a favor and don’t cut and paste anything. Whether your recollections are true or not, this is neither the time nor place to discuss it and in exceedingly poor taste on your part.
We’ve removed/edited some comments. It’s understandable that different people will have different memories and points of view regarding someone who’s died and we’re willing to provide some leeway to share those perspectives.
This is a memorial thread, however, so even moreso than normal, reserving a level of respect for the deceased and his/her family is expected if you choose to express negative opinions.
If there’s an interest in debating the specifics of a given public figure’s record or reputation with each other further–within the parameters of our posting guidelines–please do so in another thread.
Thanks,
Mod 1
Ok Glimmerglass thanks for your input!
This is sad
Yo, SM - with some assistance from other Forum users it was figured out who you are and where you are. I have chosen to keep this information to myself at this time - I have no control over what other people will do or say, and quite honestly, you’ve been pretty rough on everyone. If, however, you feel it is imperative to be nasty and abuse other recently deceased people, their families, or friends, you’ll be seeing me on one of the mules.
I am now writing to you as someone I know. Quit it! Please!
I had no idea you even had anything to do with the track at any point in your career, so it boggles my mind that you once had a working relationship with Bobby (if that was the case).
Is your hatred of him so great that you can’t sit quietly for a few weeks while people mourn? And, considering that I never heard you say anything about Bobby to me, it can’t have been pressing on your mind constantly.
By the way, a ‘troll’ in online computer definitions is someone who purposefully creates ill will for fun and games. I was shocked, truly shocked, when I was told it might be you saying those things. I thought you were a much nicer person.
And, in those regards, I try to ‘walk the walk.’ I rescue and retire many animals who have been in rough shape for years, and still volunteer to help ‘kids and horses’ enjoy better lives. I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror everyday and like the person who stares back at me.
The whole ‘two-face’ facet of COTH I’ve just never seen, perhaps because I don’t have time to resume being 12 years-old.
Our mutual friend, JS, told me you’ve had some rough things happen over the past years. She didn’t get into details but know that I hope things are looking up for you. I do care, but please understand that I also cared about Bobby. I shouldn’t have to choose between you two.
Do you want to have lunch or dinner just to talk? How are all your steeds doing?
Please PM me so we can speak.
Hallie
Hallie I. McEvoy
Racing Dreams, LLC
Bolton Valley, Vermont
I know what I have seen and heard. I know a lot of people from the track. This thread just really sent me over the edge. Dead or not. A spade is a spade. Like I said it will be interesting to see the “memorial” for PV when the time comes. Do your own research on Frankel. I don’t have to.
So sad, one of my favorite trainers. Rest in peace.
The man was an arrogant jerk. Just do a brief search, you all said so YOURSELVES! Sad when anyone dies but the false memories are a bit much.
Wow, some seriously classless posts here. If you want to kick a person when they are dead? Amazing, striking view into your life.
I wonder what they’ll say when you’re dead.
The man was human, and people are mourning his loss–regardless of how some of you feel about him. He’s dead, he leaves a big hole in the heart of racing and many will miss him. If you won’t, then why bother to post.
Disgusting displays of humans here.
In the Blood Horse today:
[URL=“http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/finalturn/archive/2009/11/17/more-than-horses-by-lenny-shulman.aspx”]More Than Horses – by Lenny Shulman:
"Bobby Frankel was not for everybody. I was crazy about him…
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