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#21

The blanketing was not the real issue but in 78 why does the horse need total head to tail coverage? The point was they were tied, overfed and stiff…I wanted to take them all home. I am not the bleeding heart type typically but it really bothered me. Not to mention not sound and never got out. No wonder they were upright in the pasterns…good grief some normal walking would be much healthier.

Say what everyone might this is WRONG

It isn’t about me or my industry it is about cruelty

BTW having been around hunters all my life I can tell you that abuses I have seen were very situational and not the norm.

#22

DLSD, here we come!

Or bulldog on steroids. Four of their six stallions are HYPP N/H. One of the N/N boys is for sale.

#23

exactly…look at the pasterns!

#24

http://www.bertonqh.com/index_bqh.htm

#25

click on Sir Cool Skip

HOLY CRAP

#26

The “Shanes Bake” page is particularly disturbing, for those who haven’t seen it.

“training” and fitting aside- it kills me to see people breeding FOR traits that are not likely to produce sound horses- straight hind legs, straight pasterns, straight shoulder/tight angle-short humerus, teeeeny feet- it’s a recipe for a lame horse. If you read the judging standards, they sound like any other conformation class, so how did it get so weird?

I looked at a bunch of ads, and the ones that DO show a horse moving show short, choppy, heavy on the forehand movement, and I saw several young stallions already in corrective shoeing.

Must stop, need to do some work, and this depresses me.

#27

[QUOTE=europa;2957482]
click on Sir Cool Skip

HOLY CRAP[/QUOTE]
http://www.bertonqh.com/images/sir_cool_skip_running_1_6_06.jpg

IS THAT A BEAR, OR A HORSE?!?!?!:confused::o:confused::o:eek:

#28

Yes, I have always wondered how “it” happened; how these extreme horses became the standard. I don’t have the answer, but I place the blame at the judges’ feet. People will produce what wins and winners are worth $$$. Top halter horses will easily sell for 6 figures. In my area “nice quality” halter horse babies bring 8500 to 10,000. Follow the money trail. You have to change the judging, and while that is happening, it is very, very slow (too slow, IMHO). I don’t think the blanketing, pumping them full of feed, etc is the cruelty. The cruelty is producing an animal that is crippled and often carries a genetic disease. To be up front, though, I feel the same way about the TB industry chewing up so many “babies” and having crippled 2 and 3 year olds come off the track by the trailer load. Happens to the reining horses, too. Most top, top reining horses have the peak of their career at 3 or 4 year old futurities and retire after that. Many don’t hold up to that type of strenuous riding so early.

#29

I’m not familiar with a lot of the horses that have been posted so far, but here is a link to the top trainer/handler in the halter world. Much like the HB world, it does matter who is on the end of the lead and in the halter world if you want to win, this is who needs to handle your horse. He stands some stallions, and it is eye opening, for sure.
www.turnerranchinc.com

#30

We have a Halter-bred palomino QH stallion son of world champion Mr Be Downtown. He’s an utter pet and the best natured stud I have ever met. He’s an absolute baby and just adores being loved on.

I remember when we got him some of the QH people thought we were out of our minds.

We turned him out with a mare (pregnant) for company (reactions to that were: OMG What if he gets hurt?!!’). He’s trained to ride and yes does get ridden.

And he does not look like a freak either. Hes got a pretty baby-doll head, long neck, he’s tall at 16.2 hands, EXCELLENT feet (nice and big!) and legs, very good bone for his size and while he has muscle he doesn’t look like an overly muscled monstrostiy.

When we looking we did come across a couple of :eek: QH people. One woman had about 4 chains on her stallion’s face just to take him out of his stall :eek: needless to say we didn’t buy him and beat the hell out of there.

The barn owner where I kept my first horse (QH gelding) was a long-time QH owner and shower and very much an ‘old-timer’ don’t want to get him started on warped the QH has become :no:

#31

It’s just pathetic what these animals have to endure. One fellow told me they don’t break their halter horses to ride because the saddle would put an indentation in the shoulder muscle.

However - the more these practices in all disciplines are exposed to the general public, the more pressure can be put on the industries. I also chalk it up to the judges.

The wonderful Quarterhorse. His mind - his talents - I dream of owning one who can go from behind, be light in hand and work of seat aids. Responsible trainers on this board describe it, but they are too few and far between.

But no - I have enough horses so I don’t even THINK about it.

#32

Wow. Those websites are freaky, those horses look like bizarre alien horses - how does anyone even think that looks good? I don’t get it at all… Would someone please tell me what exactly a halter horse is and what a WP horse is? I mean is a halter horse a halter horse like and that’s it - they wear a halter? They just stand in a stall all day, look like their on steroids, never see the light of day, don’t get ridden but do go to shows and get bred? I feel so bad for those horses and those little babies they are producing… this has to stop. This is horrible type of abuse.

#33

The picutre of the one example of a dam of “A Legacy” one of the colts on the “Shanes Bake” page is totally disturbing. Is she foundered…you would breed that mare why? Just standing you can see so many reasons not to breed her!! Supposedly that mare sold for 100,000 twice even with a torn cervix. What is the wold coming too!

I am quiet annoyed with the trend that even youth QH type halter horses are being shown in lip chains? Isnt the QH breed supposed to be user friendly. Lip chains with kids on the other end? weanlings, yearlings,mares , geldings and stud…is that really needed. Or are they so over fed over steroided ,over whatever that they are freaking nuts !!

I dont care how nice …couldnt imagine one of todays top hunter breeding weanlings showing in a lip chain and placing.

#34

That is exactly what a halter horse is.

WP is a western pleasure horse. They are supposed to be smooth and easy with collected gaits. Often times they end up looking exceptionally lame and screwed up. The abuse trends there are lunging for hours, blood letting (I don’t know if anyone does this anymore, but it was once a popular alternative to sedation), sedation, etc. All to make them move with 1’ strides. They used to be nose to the floor peanut rollers, but now they are looking for a level topline. I don’t know if that’s how they actually judge it…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RiHEOoEUY

#35

What is really disturbing is how much bigger in person they are!! It is unimaginable how huge they are…my nephew and I just had our jaws open the entire time.

I am telling you that NONE were sound according to the person I was talking to…no wonder…all that weight on little legs and no exercise for circulation. It really is criminal. What are they thinking? My WBs would kill if treated like that. They would never be soo tolerant.

#36

This is someones foundation broodmare…what the hell!! http://www.ellisquarterhorses.com/bunnynew2006.htm

She is only 20. I have schooling horses that have been shown hard and now work 4 -5 days a week with kids whos legs look nothing like that.

Shoot I know broken down race mares with cleaner legs!

What are they breeding for.

#37

This is the first I’ve seen horses this beefy…is this one for real http://www.doublelacres.com/DCPrecision.html or is that photoshopped?

OMG hackinaround, that poor mare!!! I wonder what on earth…

#38

Nice knees. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: And they breed her to HYPP N/H stallions.

#39

The ad photo “taken as a 2 year old” is quite photoshopped, but the other ones I think are real.

damnit, you got me looking again.

#40

Positively vomitous. :dead: :dead:

Let’s also not forget the navicular disease that runs rampant throughout these guys. The owners & trainers think nothing of it either. :mad:

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