Hanoverian G-line- Comments?

[kmbhoya2000]

Don’t know if you have seen this, it’s a little write-up on Gotthard…

http://www.greenacres-stud.com/gotthard.htm

I always love looking at this photo of him, because his head reminds me of my horse Merlin, and his body, and tail, are so reminiscent of Genius…

here is another little write-u pon G-line, mentioning some of the Olympic horses:
http://www.glueckspferd.com/g-line.cfm

one more, this also mentions Genius…:
http://synergysporthorses.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161:gotthard&directory=143

[prudence]

Can someone comment on the differences between the G-line brothers Grundstein - I and II? When people refer to Grundstein, do they usually mean the first? I know one Grundstein was Eike Von Veltheim’s grand prix horse but I don’t know which one.

Thank you.

[Jumper_SoCal]

I’ve had a Gouldenstein line mare, she was fairly athletic and good natured.

[Stacie]

Today we had gusts of wind up to 50 mph. Everything was blowing and thumping. Most of the horses were crazed. Farrier came and DHs horse (coming 6, not a hanoverian) was a basket case in the barn with everything blowing outside.

2,5 year old G-line filly was completely quiet for the farrier. Spent the whole time trying to give the farrier wet willies.

[TWF]

@prudence;5432237

Can someone comment on the differences between the G-line brothers Grundstein - I and II? When people refer to Grundstein, do they usually mean the first? I know one Grundstein was Eike Von Veltheim’s grand prix horse but I don’t know which one.

Thank you.

Correct. Grundstein I - led European stallion indexes, stood at Winterwood and competed Grand Prix dressage winning the WPB Special in his last competition year.
It was tragic to lose him that young.

[Stacie]

The post on mare lines got me thinking. When I was looking for stallions, I was surprised by the number of the them that I really liked having a G-line mare line. Of course, I was pretty much looking for G-line qualities, but it seems that the mares are able to pass them on.

[TWF]

There are a few broodmare stallion threads floating around.
From my own experience and those I have bred… My test foals (fillies Grande Celeste & Grand Affair) and those to follow became just what you would want.

• [B]Grande Celeste[/B] a DAD Champion at 2 and U/S- Premium Mare ; retired sound from GP dressage at WPB wth her ammy owner/trainer.
• [B]Grand Affair[/B] is the most celebrated hunter breeding mare having been undefeated as a 3 yr old. Won the filly class and the broodmare championship as a 3 yr old.She went on to produce IHF champion and several highly competitive foals. Diva also won the Upperville Posh trophy 4 times and retiring the trophy for the only time in it's history.
• [B]Grande Desire [/B]full sister of [B]Grand Affair[/B] won as a young horse in limited showing and was undefeated until she was 6 weeks away from delivering in 2010...her only third came at Devon..a month away fro delivering and 14 yrs old. I have to say she has been the most pleasurable horse to ride I have ever had.
• [B]Grande Divina [/B]won her class at DAD began her production with Acessorized after my daughter moved to Europe.
• [B]Grande Starlight[/B] retired from jumping and dressage to become am Hokie mare
• [B]Grande Auroura [/B]injured at 3 joined the band at Cornell and still producing while her older sis [B]Grande Celeste[/B] showed.
• [B]Grande Tiara[/B] has had a wonderful career in dressage.
• [B]Grande Impression[/B] has been a hunter champion in back to back years showing in both jumpers and hunters as well as winning broodmare championships and jackpots.

That's just what comes to mind..there are others..I had another G mare win her mare inspection at 3 in Florida too. As a smaller breeder...Can't knock that kind of success.

[steppingstones]

[QUOTE=Stacie;5405066]
Lots of jumper responses, but Grundstein is behind many successful dressage horses. Gifted was a Grande grandson through Garibaldi II
They are certainly athletic, but I think they are most notable for their minds.
Exceptionally willing to please, intelligent, personable and very people oriented. Generally less reactive due to a desire to trust their handler and to think about what it happening around them rather than react. Sweet and loyal. Easy to train.
I find that the space they create around themselves is “safe”. They pay attention to where you are and are careful to not hurt you.
That said, I have heard, and suspect that it is true, that they are smart enough to know when a rider does not have their best interests in mind. A horse who is already giving you everything they have, may not be all that happy about being asked to give more than they are capable of. They are very honest but they aren’t stupid.
.[/QUOTE]
WOW are you talking about my stallion?!!!
That was so poetic. I loved it! From lack of better terms I would say “comfortable in his own skin, and compassionate for his rider and passionate about his job” He is all of those great qualities you mentioned and his dam’s dam line is Grundstein and sire’s dam sire is Grannus. I have lucked out with all of the great qualities in a horse that is balanced and rhythmic like a dressage horse, show jumps with huge scope, power and speed, but does it with the jumping style of a hunter and am a huge fan of the G-line. I wish the G came through in his name so more people would give credit to the G-line but he is by the late For Pleasure and we are honored to carry his name.

[Gayle_in_Oregon]

I had a wonderful Grundstein 1 mare and now have her daughter by Rhodes Scholar (a stallion by Rodiamont whose mother was largely the G-line)…I have to say this mare named Rhiening Scholar is the most personable horse I have ever known out of hundreds. She is more like a dog than a horse and she prefes human company to horses and has since she was a foal. She is extremely capable in all the Grand Prix movements and is in training to go up the levels with a good amature who adores her. She is booked to Rousseau and will take a few months off to foal next year (cross my fingers).

Dr. Christman says the G-line is notably “strong in the loin” and remain elastic. They will outperform themselves with “try”. I am paraphrasing. Grundstein 1 is legendary in his production in both dressage and jumping. I have been told by GOV juries that they are noted for soundness as well. Especially prized on the mare line in the pedigree.

I think of G-line as the foundation in breeding stock and I prefer some in every mare.