[QUOTE=Auventera Two;2912233]
For another thing - when I tail up on hills, I’m within a couple of feet of her hind heels. She would never think of kicking out. [/QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity, what does that mean? I’m unfamiliar with the term.
The operative word being “choose.” If you choose not to - then don’t. I don’t believe that anyone is holding the gun to your noggin so it shouldn’t matter. 
Stilthy - tailing up is dismounting and grasping the tail with one or both hands on steep inclines and letting the horse pull you up while you walk or jog. It saves the horses energy if you don’t ride all the hills. People go up steep hills usually slower than a horse does so hanging onto the tail allows you to move faster, and keep your balance. Maybe GTD can give more in depth info on it??? I started teaching my girl about it on the flat roadway first, with driving lines. We have a few decent hills on some of our trails and she is now tailing up on those hills, just for the experience and exposure to it. Not that we ride enough to actually warrant doing it, but it’s good practice.
That would be … incorrect. No one “stalked” anyone. The term “stalking” conjures up images of people hiding around corners waiting to jump their prey. Using that term in this situation is totally inappropriate.
Just because people are not actively posting to a forum does not mean they aren’t reading that forum. There is no lock on any doors, you don’t need a gilded invitation to come and join.
I was personally alarmed at some of the rigging in the OP’s photos and I PM’d Thomas for his opinion. So if someone wants to place blame or get angry at someone for the ensuing pissing match, blame me.
I’m still concerned about the rigging but have decided to just let people have their fun. No one was hurt, and I’m sure I would be right there playing along if I didn’t know what I know from my exposure to the driving world.
I just want to set the record straight on what compelled Thomas to post on this thread.
Have a good weekend.
Hundredacres, It wasn’t about you at all :yes:… It was already explained, but there is a poster who is always busting A2’s arse. He followed her on this forum and made himself a royal pain in the arse argueing over ridculous things that weren’t any of his business. Thats all…
[QUOTE=Huntertwo;2912748]
… argueing over ridculous things …[/QUOTE]
That depends on what you call ridiculous. I believe he just asked a few reasonable questions about the safety precautions that just about anyone who has driven a horse would ask. If you’ve actually ever witnessed the carnage a horse harnessed up can cause, you may not understand why there is concerns from people who have. I wonder how one uses their feet to stop the tube when they are kneeling in the tube?
I mean, if someone was posting about how they decided to ride their pasture puff 15 miles in the heat without proper conditioning and hydration concerns, wouldn’t the members of this forum ask a few logical questions about the safety aspects?
Who knew trail riding was such a death-defying adventure? I had no idea my horse and I were being so brave. I’m not going to tell him – we also show in dressage and breed shows (in groomed rings) so he might get nervous and decide to start kicking. :rolleyes:
Hmmm. Then where exactly was Thomas on the thread that was linked a couple of pages ago? Kids in a sled behind a bucking pony and barking dogs. Didn’t seem that he said a word about that did he? 
Nahh, and he won’t. He wasn’t asking honest questions. He just couldn’t pass up a stick poking opportunity. That’s why I ignore him and his cohorts. So until he posts on that other thread how dangerous it is, I’ll maintain that I know what his motivation is. :winkgrin: I mean after all, it was linked right here. Shouldn’t be too hard to find the thread.
Some of us don’t maintain our horses like precious china dolls ready to shatter under duress. Some of us actually use our horses, have fun with them, and oh, you know, train them so they have a little brainpower. 
Not sure I’d call it death-defying, but I suppose it can be if you’re riding a hot house flower ready to freak out and kill its rider, which apparently is the kind of horses some people here are used to. I guess I just don’t have any use for those types of horses. Too dangerous, too much drama.
He’s probably not posting on the other thread for the same reason I’m not posting on it, and stopped posting on this one. This thread taught me a very valuable lesson - that people simply perceive things differently. What some see as fun, I see as dangerous. They aren’t going to convince me it’s fun and I’m not going to convince them it’s dangerous.
There is no “I’m right and you’re wrong” about it, as both sides are right in their own minds, and there will be no changing that.
[QUOTE=Auventera Two;2912650]
Stilthy - tailing up is dismounting and grasping the tail with one or both hands on steep inclines and letting the horse pull you up while you walk or jog. It saves the horses energy if you don’t ride all the hills. People go up steep hills usually slower than a horse does so hanging onto the tail allows you to move faster, and keep your balance. Maybe GTD can give more in depth info on it??? I started teaching my girl about it on the flat roadway first, with driving lines. We have a few decent hills on some of our trails and she is now tailing up on those hills, just for the experience and exposure to it. Not that we ride enough to actually warrant doing it, but it’s good practice.[/QUOTE]
Hah. Hahah. You know, I thought that’s what it might be, but then I thought “nah, that’s too bizarre.” But apparently nothing is too bizarre for horse people. :lol:
People really do this? Seriously? Do you keep a hold of the reins somehow?
Who, exactly, are you referring to with this comment? I believe many posters here who are questioning your judgment have established that we have trained horses that we also have fun with - both in rings and in the great outdoors. And perhaps you’ve missed it, since you have Thomas on ignore, but he has many posts, complete with pictures, that show that Thomas does far more with his horses than I’d daresay most people on this BB do. Outside of a ring and everything.
I’d like to know which poster(s) you are referring to with the above comment, out of curiosity.
[QUOTE=Ja Da Dee;2912781]
That depends on what you call ridiculous. I believe he just asked a few reasonable questions about the safety precautions that just about anyone who has driven a horse would ask. [/QUOTE]
I don’t know either of the two parties in question and while a relative newbie-even I am aware of the antipathy they have towards each other. No big state secret. I can only surmise that the intent of “hitchinmygetalong” was to stir the pot by alerting the questioner to jump in and not as they claim, to save unsuspecting thread viewers from a gruesome death at the hands of their horses.
Another big open secret is that the OP has the interrogating poster on “ignore.” Surely if my green arse knows that then he is well aware of it. Sooo… what would be the point of him coming here, asking her a laundry list of interrogating questions, if the OP cannot see them nor be inclined to answer them? It’s pretty clear that he was here simply to perform and posture for the rest of us. Just ahead of the brayings of the safety patrol.
Sometimes a turd in a punchbowl is just that-a stinky turd, even when wrapped in a mantle of solicitousness and topped with a jaunty Scotch tam o’shanter.
Hey AT!
I think my kid’s pony (or even Tia) would be a hoot to try this with.
I dont think this has been addressed (but I have been known to be wrong) but isn’t it quite possible that the tube is not even attached to the horse? Than AT is kneeling on the lines that attach to the surcingle so if she should happen to fall off, the tube would not follow the horse?
I know that my very first thought when I read the first post was “explitive … how does she stop that tube from sliding up her horses back legs?!?” I’ve seen how horses can be effected when something slides up their bum, then the aftermath of trying to cut them out of the lines. If A2 wants to go and have fun, cool, but there were quite a few posters that thought it looked fun too. Is it not reasonable to let them know the potential dangers? What if it was a kid thinking it was fun, and they go get their heads kicked in, or thier horse injured because if this irresponsibility?
editing to add, my horse isn’t a hot house flower either. He events, he does dressage, he does trail riding, in his prior life, he did sorting and penning… while he LOVES his stall, he doesn’t require one.
[QUOTE=Lisa Cook;2912847]
I’d like to know which poster(s) you are referring to with the above comment, out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]
Me, too.
Everyone who rides a hot house flower, please raise your hand. Now go away and don’t post on this forum again. We’re all friendly here. And brave.
:lol: GTD or some of the other experienced endurance people probably know more about, as they probably actually “have” to use it. I’ve just played around with it for practice.
Some people unclip the rein from one bit ring, and hang onto the other end, and some people do it “on the honor systsem” they call it. You just drop the reins on the neck and let the horse go. I’ve kept hold of one rein for now. I saw a guy on a ride doing it and he’d jump off while the horse was still trotting, the horse would trot past him, he’d grab the tail, run up the hill, and jump back on, still at a trot. Wow, he was athletic. (And tall!)
kmp - Aww, Tia would be great for sled pulling! :lol: Could you imagine your girls laughing? How cute would that be!
The way I hooked my line to the tube and back to the horse was to snap it on one side, then the other side was tied with a quick release. I have since done it another way using two separate lines, and tying a knot in the very end of each. You thread the knot through the tube handles, and if the handles flex too much, the knots pop out of the handles. But I became detached a little more often than I wanted. Maybe bigger knots would secure it better You could use bailing twine too. I think that’s how BuddyRoo did it on that other thread.
I think the safest way to go about this on my own farm…still fun though…would be have a rider on the horse “ponying” the sled or intertube. That way the rider could let go if needed. The pull-behind type shown here by A2 and in the “other” thread (I could hardly watch that one it freaked me out so bad!) are just too scary looking for my wimpy old self ;). But then again…that is why I don’t post on this forum. Endurance people are a whole 'nother level of horse people than me blush and I don’t have nearly the gts to do what you guys do.
That would be … incorrect. No one “stalked” anyone. The term “stalking” conjures up images of people hiding around corners waiting to jump their prey. Using that term in this situation is totally inappropriate.
Oh, this is hilarious. Isn’t that what your gang does in “the box”. Waiting for A2 or some others to post so you can copy it over there and ridicule or “jump on your prey”? Too, too funny.
OH yeah Dalfan, I checked out their thread there too. :lol: Even down to making fun of my clothing and “western” styled helmet. And saying it would be ok if it were a sled or a tobaggan. But since it’s a plastic inflatable tube, it’s horribly dangerous. And saying endurance horses are $400 hillbilly nags…blah blah blah…
Well, apparently my 400 dollar hillbilly nag is a lot more trustworthy than most 80,000 dollar show horses. Laugh! And excuse me, but she’s a 1,000 dollar hillbilly nag, thankyaverymuch.
Isn’t the internet grand? I only read a thread or two on that board when someone mentions an interesting one. It’s amazing that people have so little to do with their time, isn’t it? lol
OH yeah Dalfan, I checked out their thread there too.
You mean “your” thread. :lol: You must feel so special, sorta like a badge of honor. :lol::lol:
