[QUOTE=Auventera Two;4995892]
I disagree with that notion 150%. And what “argument?” There should never be an argument. The horse has no idea what your ultimate goal is. For all he knows, your goal is only to look at the object for 3 seconds then turn around and go home. Only YOU know your goal. And the goal can be anything you want it to be. the horse has absolutely NO concept of “I turned away from the object so I won the argument and now I’m never going to do it again because I don’t have to.” The horse lives in the NOW and the horse only responds to cues applied to him in the context he understands. They really aren’t as complicated as some “trainers” like to believe they are. The right answer, right now, should NEVER ever be your goal. If it is, then you’re in the wrong business. Training and disciplining should never be confused with one another.
This is exactly the kind of “training” that turns my stomach green. I’ve seen too many horses ruined by somebody trying to “win an argument” when the horse just isn’t trained to do what you’re asking.[/QUOTE]
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you may well disagree but personally i dont disagree with the poster comments horses that are allowed to nap and the above poster of whome you disagree with is correct in thinking the horse has won the arguement becuase nine times out of ten the horse is allowed to continue with that arguement of no i am nto going to do xyz and person that lacks confidence gives no true guidance to a horse therefore this creates a doubt as lack of trust between the rider and the horse which in ahorses mind creates a fear factor
fear factors to a horse is 1st is to flee 2nd is to advade you
so bearing that in mind - as in the 2nd one to advade you then this is what we call napping
napping consist of rearing . bucking, spooking . leaping, twisting, spinning ,scoot and shoot, sidesteps , broncs, unture bolts etc etc
in this case- the horse leaps but is still napping as in this case the horse is unsure and so is the rider so all they need is confidence to enter
and its not done by leading the horse in on foot as you cannot do that at a competition nor can you blindfold it
so in my book you start of as you mean to go - you learn to sit the trama and push on and encourage the horse forward but this can only be done with a confidence rider which i am sure the rider is all they lack is expreince of how to
by getting of for exsample the horse has the advantage of winning the arguement as hes much more stronger than you are
- yes they they do live in the now moment but its how the now moment is percieved and what that objective is
for exsample on another thread you ask if its safe to ride along a certian object as you beleive the horses would be on edge but most it isnt the horses on edge but its the people that are on edge when they go into any competitions or riding into the unknown of something they havent done before like you otherwise you wouldnt post what you did like wise with this op
ignorance covers many things - to include what you percieve of what forwards is
so one thinks that perhaps one shouldnt advice when one in the same boat with another obstical that they are unsure off
