If I were looking to cross with an Arabian, I would want good movement, a quiet temperament, and a type not terribly dissimilar, ie, not a huge, big-boned stallion. Some of the ones I would consider would be Dacaprio, known for throwing a great temperament and movement, and Dauphin, know for the same thing. I bred a mare to Dauphin, modern type, normal head, and her offspring had a head with a beautiful, typey dish face. Dauphin is frozen only but it is outstanding semen. Rubino Bellissimo is another thought, as he is known for throwing a modern type with a great temperament.
TRAKEHNER!!!
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http://americantrakehner.com/Mares/ATATB&ArabianMarePilotProgram.htm
I suggest looking into using a Trakehner. If your mare is approved, it will give your foal (especially a filly) papers and an opportunity to have registered foals herself. Plus Traks and Arabs are a more common cross then some of the other WB types.
UB40 X foals really do look nice also![/QUOTE]
This!!!:yes:
Though, clearly, YOUR mare:yes’s conformation, movement, etc… must be considered, but the nice thing about breeding to a Trakehner is, providing your mare is inspected and approved with the ATA, the resulting foal would be able to be registered with full ATA papers, plus (I think) still get half AHA papers, so it gives you options when considering future competion possibilties, etc…
Now, that having been said, though I have not seen UB40 in person, I have seen several of his offspring at DAD, including a lovely colt, El Paso ISF…
Good Luck! :yes:
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This!!!:yes:
Though, clearly, YOUR mare:yes’s conformation, movement, etc… must be considered, but the nice thing about breeding to a Trakehner is, providing your mare is inspected and approved with the ATA, the resulting foal would be able to be registered with full ATA papers, plus (I think) still get half AHA papers, so it gives you options when considering future competion possibilties, etc…
Now, that having been said, though I have not seen UB40 in person, I have seen several of his offspring at DAD, including a lovely colt, El Paso ISF…
Good Luck! :yes:[/QUOTE]
A question since I am a newbie when it comes to warmbloods. The arabian mare I used was approved GOV, so my horse has full GOV papers, and is registered half arabian. Is that the same thing you are referring to with the ATA, or something different? I always get confused with that!
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A question since I am a newbie when it comes to warmbloods. The arabian mare I used was approved GOV, so my horse has full GOV papers, and is registered half arabian. Is that the same thing you are referring to with the ATA, or something different? I always get confused with that![/QUOTE]
Its the same thing only a different registry. Your foal is Oldenburg and HA.
My mare is approved Hanoverian and her foals are branded and registered Hanoverian, along with HA.
I would love to see more Arabian mares approved with the warmblood registries 
Thanks Stripes I thought so just wanted to make sure! I knew Arabian mares could be approved with almost every warmblood registry except KWPN, but I thought I once saw something that ATA is a breed, so I was confused because I always see people say to use an ATA stallion with an Arabian mare, so wasn’t sure if it was different
And OP, UB40’S damsire is Trakahner
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This!!!:yes:
Though, clearly, YOUR mare:yes’s conformation, movement, etc… must be considered, but the nice thing about breeding to a Trakehner is, providing your mare is inspected and approved with the ATA, the resulting foal would be able to be registered with full ATA papers, plus (I think) still get half AHA papers, so it gives you options when considering future competion possibilties, etc…
Good Luck! :yes:[/QUOTE]
AHA will register a HA as long as one parent is a purebred Arabian.
Thanks for all of the great suggestions! I now have 4 stallions on my short list and I’m going to be researching them and their offspring pretty intently.
DownYonder hit on one of my most important points – rideability and ammy friendly disposition. This foal will be one that I’ve wanted for almost 10 years and he/she is being as my personal show/pleasure horse.
UB40/Arabian for an ammy friendly disposition?
That’s not a cross that would occur to me with that goal in mind.
Knowing this mare’s pedigree as I do and now knowing what the OP is looking for in the future foal I have 1 suggestion - Rubignon.
Good luck in your search - stallion shopping can be fun!
I love Rubignon.
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UB40/Arabian for an ammy friendly disposition?
That’s not a cross that would occur to me with that goal in mind.[/QUOTE]
Really? That is exactly what my boy is, and he has an awesome disposition, and I am an ammy 
May I ask, and this is not to stir the pot Oakstable (I always do value your opinion!!), but why do people say that UB40 does not produce an ammy friendly disposition? I have talked to Meghan, and she has never mentioned that. I have talked to owners of foals, yearlings, and under saddle horses, and have heard nothing but good about them, about how friendly they are and they go great under saddle. The only one that I see that is hot/more of a pro ride is Apache, but he also has Krack C as his damsire, so could that not be a contributing factor??
The only incident I am aware of was the one down in Wellington where he backed out or fell out of the ring or something? Was there more then the one occurrence that I am aware of, because I just can’t see people saying he has a non-friendly ammy disposition from the one time thing??
Well anyways either way my boy has a lovely personality and very trainable, but like I said in my other posts, this is the only one I am personally handling, so what do I know!
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why do people say that UB40 does not produce an ammy friendly disposition? I have talked to Meghan, and she has never mentioned that. I have talked to owners of foals, yearlings, and under saddle horses, and have heard nothing but good about them, about how friendly they are and they go great under saddle. The only one that I see that is hot/more of a pro ride is Apache, but he also has Krack C as his damsire, so could that not be a contributing factor??
The only incident I am aware of was the one down in Wellington where he backed out or fell out of the ring or something? Was there more then the one occurrence that I am aware of, because I just can’t see people saying he has a non-friendly ammy disposition from the one time thing??
Well anyways either way my boy has a lovely personality and very trainable, but like I said in my other posts, this is the only one I am personally handling, so what do I know![/QUOTE]
Well, there is this blurb from Iron Spring’s website:
UB40 is an excellent choice for old fashioned types or heavy mares. He is also very good for quiet mares that need some “blood,” or Thoroughbred mares with good temperaments.
UB40 was not known in Holland for throwing “ammy” type temperaments, and as mentioned, neither is his sire Olivi or his grandsire Jazz. And yes, there have been other incidents with UB40 other than the one in Wellington. His rider should be lauded for his tact and finesse and determination in getting the horse showing successfully at FEI (although I am not sure they have been out in the past two years or so).
I will also add that there can often be quite a difference between how a young horse behaves during ground handling, and how trainable and rideable it is once it gets under saddle. That said, every horse has a mother, and yours may certainly be one of the UB40 offspring that will prove to have good ammy type rideability.
Thank you for the explanation!
Donarweiss will give you a beautiful type along with elastic gaits.
Donarweiss is an excellent choice, he’s on my short list for my Arabian mare, just waiting for fresh cooled to be available.
I hope the OP doesn’t mind, but this is important info for everyone with stallion suggestions. This mare is bred for western pleasure. To breed her to a super big moving stallion is not going to get her what she wants. The mare’s pedigree suggests that the stallion needs to bring freedom to the shoulder, a big walk & canter and a very good hind end. She’s doing this once, so its better to pick a proven stallion that is known to improve these specific things and bring relaxation & ridability into the mix. Its a tall order, but I know there are stallions that are proven in these areas.
Rubignon is one of the few that I know will give her what she needs. Fabuleux also comes to mind, but I don’t know if he has bred any Arabian mares. Also keep in mind that the angles behind are very important, as the stallion needs to be super in this area.
I think Dauphin could be a very good choice. He is quite refined and throws quiet and ammy friendly temperament. He has a super walk and canter and a lot of activity behind. My filly inherited of that trait + a super cute head.
http://fbcdn_sphotos_e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248040_10151814748555438_1064178480_n.jpg
Good luck!
Hello, Grits - I am actually in the same exact boat as you, and i am looking for a warmblood stallion to breed to my arabian mare as well. I have a few stallions in mind, but do you mind if I post some info and pics of my mare on this thread since it is a fairly recent thread and everyone seems soo helpful here. i would love to get peoples opinions! or should i start my own thread? This is the first forum i have ever posted on so i am not sure of the forum “etiquette” so to speak
Lotus T
Lotus T has produced numerous arabian crosses and several of them were very successful in the dressage ring. Among several others, Misty Meadows Arabians in Ocala, Florida produced four lovely foals. They were trained by Brian McMahon and shown in dressage. Lotus puts on size, elasticity - plus excellent temperament without compromising the refined, elegant look.
I Love Arabian Warmbloods the first time I saw one about 6 years after the last warmblood I saw which was oldstyle(I owned her and loved her) I was hooked. To me they are when done well a wonderful athlete, a nice natured, easy animal with heart. Honestly if the mare is a good temperament I wouldn’t worry too much about the stallion in my opinion. Would however qualify and say if the mare is the flighty type which isn’t limited to Arabians then yes Stallion attitude does matter. I have two Arabian Warmbloods (mother & daughter) and they are/were the easiest foals in my opinion. Same as any foal will test, get told off, test a different way get told off and eventually stop. Sensitive, willing, trusting and willing to learn … honestly it maybe the Arab breeding mine have but I like them.
Cheers
BTW I used San Amour for what that is worth and she does have a 4 beat walk, great front legs (which is one reason I used him), a lovely trot (the other reason I used him) and good canter. But her head isn’t what I would call pretty (the mare is very pretty) and her neck is short in comparison to her mother’s but I think it will be normal in length rather than her mum which is probably a tad long. She is compact with a good back end like her mother and I don’t think she will be much over her mother’s height may be 15.3 if I am lucky. She has her dad’s star, is brown and has no white legs - her mother out of multi parents of 3 stockings, she has no white legs but a lovely blaze & is chestnut.
