Hempfling - Different approach to being with horses

If your responce is triggered by me trying to convince you to follow a trainer you don’t relate to I can maybe understand it. However I have not actually done that - I have presented a statement and asked for your opinion that is all. And the reason I chose to ask here is that I assume the memebers have experience with horses.
Your statement creates a negative impreassion of me as pesron if I choose to not be with horses which I have to reject - and again I am not sure why one would do that. All the best in your future work with horses.

Thank you for the comment. I surely an understand your stand point. I can also clearly see that I don’t talk in a way similar to most here, in the level of English but also not in style. I could relate some of the responces to that fact as you suggest.
Since we are talking about a person I respect and know personaly and I find it my obligation to express that this interpretation is a misunderstanding. Just to put out here. I am not trying to convince anyone I merely express my view based on personally knowing the person and the results he brings in all areas of this activies - and not on watching a few clips.
That is all. I do apprecieate your responce.

We’ve all given you an answer. We think Hempfling is not that interesting to us because he is restating the obvious and has an inflated sense of self importance.

You self identify as a novice inexperienced horse person. Why should experienced horse people be impressed by your opinions?

Being a novice is not in itself a bad thing. We all start somewhere. But yes, a novice that insists on trying to impress very experienced people will.create a negative impression.

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I appreciate that you feel you know him and you don’t think that’s what he is about. I’m just sharing that he would likely be better received by the experienced horse crowd without that.

He’d also likely be a lot poorer.

It is one of the strangest truisms about the horse world, most of the best horsemen and women, the best teachers, are relatively unknown while everyone knows the best marketers.

I hope you understand my statements in the manner in which they are intended - just helping to explain the reactions of this very experienced crowd here. Also - I’d say welcome to the forum - read a bit! There is a wealth of information here :slight_smile:

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So you are a friend or client of his?

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You’re most definitely trying to advertise this person as the end all, be all of horses, and we’re not buying it. You don’t want a discussion, you just want gushing admiration of someone whose skills are limited when it comes to practical, useful advice/information on training and dealing with horses.

He has slick marketing skills, and plays games with horses that might appeal to a certain group of people, but certainly not those who have actually interacted with horses for years on a daily basis. We have Olympic level riders and trainers on this board (I am not one of them), and it’s ludicrous if you actually think this guy is doing something ‘amazing’ or ‘groundbreaking’.

You admit you don’t have horses or interact with them, so what is your end goal, other than to drum up more gushing, unquestioning support for your guru? I’m not at all convinced you’re not Hempfling yourself. It wouldn’t be the first time someone tried that, and it won’t be the last.

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I can’t help but think of “Guano” Pony Boy, a/k/a Kevin and his worshipers while reading this thread.

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A very good friend and pretty exceptional horse woman in her own right paid to be a student when he was offering horses courses on his little island.

Having been up close and personal with him and his ‘away from the cameras / audience’ way with horses and people she wouldn’t p**s on him if he was on fire now. She came back raging at what she experienced.

Another showman guru whose opinion of himself is far greater than his skill / empathy / knowledge with / of horses.

Go gush about him somewhere else, this crowd ain’t buying

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Oh lordy, I’d forgotten about GoWanAndPullMyFinger Boy! :rofl:

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Client if you can say so - I attended some seminars.

This does not surprise me.

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Can you tell us what you learned?

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I would like to address the current state of this discussion and express my confusion regarding the purpose at this point. In my original post, I shared an article and kindly requested your opinions. From what I gather, most of you do not disagree with the article, except for one point related to the preparation aspect. I acknowledge and respect this difference of opinion, as I have mentioned in a polite manner in several replies.
However, I am genuinely puzzled as to why our conversation has taken such an aggressive and heated turn, with personal attacks. I cannot comprehend the specific reasons behind this defensive explosion. Have I unintentionally touched a wound? Consequently, I am left questioning why this discussion continues to escalate in such a manner.

It actually hasn’t been aggressive or heated at all. Perhaps it might be worth considering why the lack of agreement with your opinions might be affecting you so strongly?

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I read the article.
I do not find an “explanation” (comprehensive or otherwise) of his training philosophy. In fact, some of the “facts” are completely false. For instance

approaching a horse, especially for the first time, presents a unique challenge that requires a certain level of mastery in various areas such as body awareness, mental alertness, judgment, personal development, patience, and empathy. In the past, individuals were required to demonstrate proficiency in these aspects before being granted permission to interact with these majestic and powerful animals, under the watchful eye of a respected teacher

When, where “in the past” was “proficiency in these elements” required before people were “given permission” to interact with horses???

They are “good things to have”, but I do not know any system “in the past” that required “mastery” of them BEFORE interacting with a horse.

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Your responce is indeed on the acceptable side, though does not refer to the actual subject. I have no problem at all with the disagreement, but with the form it comes in - and this can be clearly seen in my communication. I have at no point suggested anyone to follow one or another trainer.

No, but you are claiming that because this guy has 1.8 million followers he is therefor some sort of messiah and we should all oooo and ahh over his skills. Skills which have really not been seen as anything out of the ordinary or at all extraordinary.

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Thank you for commenting on the article. I believe the refence is to Kights and Celts - it is not in the modern history. Just for the avoidance of the doubt - I do not suggest you or anyone else should concider this correct. I merely would like to know your view which I now know and apperiate you sharing it.

Because you keep ignoring your threat/promise you were done with us and this thread and never going to post in here again?

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Oh dear. We know very little about knights and even less about Celts. These are very easy things to mythologize.

@Benv I have invited you several times to tell us what you learned in your seminars with Hempfling. So far you have not responded. Until you respond I am left with the impression that the answer is: nothing. I would be happy to see you correct my impression.

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