Highlife Farm Auction

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I love Highlife Lucena. Really interested in her, although I need another horse like I need a hole in the head.[/QUOTE]

Ginger Jumper

I own Lansing, Lucena’s sire, and please note they have his pedigree wrong on there. He is by Lemgo (not Larengo as they have posted). Therfore, he’s Landgraf on his sire side and Cor de la Bryere on his dams - awesome bloodlines to carry on. Please let me know if you have any questions about him or her. I also have a 2 yr old filly by him. A friend did see her today and is going back Tuesday to see her by appointment and see her move etc. I’ll let you know what she says if you’re interested.

Saw the farm and the horses today. Horses are in very good to great shape, even the old ladies and the mini’s. potential buyers were able to schedule ride times for Mon, Tues, Wed but we were able to see all horses in the stalls and to have them pulled out to look over if we wanted to. Several really wonderful horses for all interests, the ponies are all quite nice and the little ones are adorable & friendly. Auction opens the doors 7/28 at 3pm with real estate to start selling at 5pm - they say it only takes 5 minutes to sell each parcel (there are 7 total) then they’ll start showing the auction horses in hand for bidding. only around 7 of them have reserves the rest are sold without reserves. I was told that there would not be health records released - but as Florida statute requires this it will be interesting to see what happens on Saturday. One of the staff said they have not bred any mares this year or done any breeding on the farm for the previous 2 years - that explains the lack of foals but doesn’t guarantee the mares are breeding sound. there are several nice older mares that would be worth a shot to get a foal out of. Navina is in the barn and marvelous - wonderful attitude and willing eye - she caught my attention right off. The farm is currently staffed by 3 people (50+ acres, facility and 44 horses to care for) so they are swamped. Today there were several volunteers assisting with what they could. I will be heading back out to the auction next Saturday and will see what happens. Hubby is going too to tie my hands down!! Too many marvelous horses to just let go by the wayside.

We’ve been watching this thread… it’s tempting to fly down, and try to pick up a mare or two, just to see that they don’t end up in some horrible situation. Overall it’s rather sad to see this all end so unceremoniously. Highlife Farm was once the shiny jewel in the crown of a PR machine… given lots of press for all sorts of accolades (sort of like what we see on a daily basis on this forum). Over the years it’s becomes very obvious that “high priced auction horse” or " top Inspection scores" really means very little in the long run. I can’t help but feel that the rise and fall of Highlife Farm was predictable and emblematic of why the market here is struggling. You simply can’t be a successful business enterprise that is part of a larger industry that doesn’t have a credible cohesive business plan. Regardless of the economy, I think there is a whole lot here that is being politely ignored. The demise of this farm is not really unique, it is merely very high profile. In the broadest sense, what hurts all American-based breeders is that the leaders of our organizations are so firmly entrenched in self-interest and what can only be described as ignorance and arrogance. They haven’t the desire, or frankly - the education and ability - to see that the consequences of their day to day decisions are ultimately toxic to the breeding industry. We can look back at the last 25 years and see one failure after another… one false start after another, one hideous business decision after another, and yet breeders continue with the same “leadership.” Doing so is beyond idiotic… but I suspect it is now far too late to salvage the energy, enthusiasm and good will the American public had back in the 80’s. Numbers are down across the board… the industry is shrinking, venues and events disappear, people turn away and spend their money in other ways. Things will continue to slowly decay and then fade away… just like Highlife Farm.

I will register mine, nothing else, they are for me, learnt my lesson 11 years ago, riding is more fun.

Very impressive letter.

The auctioneers disclosure says that vet records in the sellers’ possession will be released to the buyer per Florida law. I’m heading down this afternoo to look a couple for an out of state interested person.
Glad to hear they all are looking good!

wow, what pessimism!

there are always people who overdo and end up failing… and maybe it will be good for horsesport to see a lack of corrupting $$ flowing in… but honestly for most of us - none of it matters…

i also find it odd to think that these horses will end up in bad places just because they are being auctioned?

Oy vey, Cartier!! I feel like slashing my wrists after reading your post… You should write dramatic love stories:lol::lol:!

You simply can’t be a successful business enterprise that is part of a larger industry that doesn’t have a credible cohesive business plan. Regardless of the economy, I think there is a whole lot here that is being politely ignored. The demise of this farm is not really unique, it is merely very high profile. In the broadest sense, what hurts all American-based breeders is that the leaders of our organizations are so firmly entrenched in self-interest and what can only be described as ignorance and arrogance. They haven’t the desire, or frankly - the education and ability - to see that the consequences of their day to day decisions are ultimately toxic to the breeding industry. We can look back at the last 25 years and see one failure after another… one false start after another, one hideous business decision after another, and yet breeders continue with the same “leadership.” Doing so is beyond idiotic…

I try not to respond to these “ignorant and arrogant” :wink: sermons from Cartier, but I will point out the following:

1 – the Sims were successful business people long before they got into the sporthorse world. One would assume they know how to put together a business plan. Whether or not they did so is no one’s business except their own.

2 – It is pretty laughable to think that private sellers, auction houses, etc., are supposed to “vet” the business plan of a prospective buyer. In fact, I imagine if a seller asked a buyer for a copy of their business plan, they would get told off pretty fast.

3 – Even enterprises with solid business plans fail.

4 – As I mentioned before, the Sims had very good guidance from very good people when they started building their breeding program (and yes, from people with “education and ability” – i.e., PhD’s, DVMs, highly experienced and successful breeders, etc.). While they initially took some of that advice, they later ignored similar good advice from those same people – including recommendations to curtail the willy-nilly buying and breeding. It was, in fact, some of that later advice from certain registry people that sent the Sims off in a huff and into affiliations with other registries that were happy to take their money.

Whatever the reasons for the closing of Highlife Farm, the important thing is that the horses find soft landings. If you can help in that regard, than good on you. If you can’t, then maybe you should just climb back up there in your ivory tower and find something else to ruminate about. :rolleyes:

Seems to me there is already enough interest that these horses will probably have soft landings.

As to the various registries/breed orgs being responsible for this farm going out of business, I think that’s really stretching things. I am not sure what Cartier would have the registries do to make the market better for a luxury hobby. I believe the nicer stallions went to other breeding homes already from this farm, and obviously there’s interest in what’s being sold.

Registries and inspections provide an objective benchmark to judge the value of an given horse, through inspection scores and pedigrees. Those things still have value, even if individual breeders aren’t making money because of a flawed marketing plan or overbuying of even the nicest horses. They also have value even if the leadership of a registry or organization is made up of people who have feet of clay, so to speak.

I am in the market and very interested in a couple of the mares… But I’m in California… So maybe if someone is heading out to look I can touch basis Them… :slight_smile:

From the interest I’ve seen I wouldn’t be surprised to see these horses bring some money, even some of the mares. I’m going to try to get a few but who knows. I have a feeling the breeding of these mares will persuade quite a few people to try to add them to their breeding program. And quite a few of the young horses are really nice. I guess auction day will tell whether those interested bid or not. It will be interesting to see what happens with the stallions and what the reserves will be.

The biggest problem I saw with Highlife was the prices she put on the horses. We tried to buy a horse but the price was crazy for a horse pulled out of the field. She has nice horses just unrealistic pricing. And I don’t know that this is a forced auction I think she is just done with it.

definitely interested!

there are at least 8 that i am going to be watching, i have to factor in shipping to california so I need to be careful to not over spend! is anyone else from the west coast going to be bidding? it sounds like there is quite a lot of interest, this is my first auction so I am nervous!!:winkgrin:
of course my husband just gave me the ok to bid on a couple!! teehee i dont think he knows what he is in for!!! this is exciting!!

Goodluck HorseKrazy and every one else going!

I wish I was in a position to take one home but No:no: I really will like to see the results though :slight_smile:

I was at Highlife Farm today and have to disagree with the poster who said the horses were in great condition. The ones I saw were thin to very thin. I was actually quite shocked at some of thier conditions. There were no vet records available and the info on breeding histories were sketchy.It was quite sad as it was so clearly not the Highlife of old! Highlife has been very influential in my breeding program and it is indeed sad to see the end of the era.

hluing - interesting comment. I went earlier today and watched two mares and a young stallion being shown; all three looked in good weight. I also went to look at Bulgari Boy, the GRP stallion. He also looked fine, though he was out in a paddock and not groomed. Can’t say I went around the other pastures and there are a lot of horses there, so my survey is limited.
I was told that the horses are current on shots/coggins and that the records would be given to the buyers. The question remains as to how complete those records are.

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there are at least 8 that i am going to be watching, i have to factor in shipping to california so I need to be careful to not over spend! is anyone else from the west coast going to be bidding? it sounds like there is quite a lot of interest, this is my first auction so I am nervous!!:winkgrin:
of course my husband just gave me the ok to bid on a couple!! teehee i dont think he knows what he is in for!!! this is exciting!![/QUOTE]

HorseKrazy, how exciting! Are you going to go in person or are you bidding online?

I am more than likely going to have to bid online… Although going in person may not be out of the question… I’m still quoting out the shipping costs!!

just a reminder for those of you bidding online…The horses have to be moved w/in certain time periods depending on you you pay. If you are a winning bidder, you also have to arrange for a vet to provide health certs for traval.

Removal times are on the second page of this doc:

http://williamsauction.com/campaigns/8001-clarona-ocoee-road-orlando-fl-32818/docs/highlifetcanddisclosures7_12.pdf

Horses do have to be removed from the farm by noon on 7/29 or new owners will be assesed $50/day board fee. I was able to confirm that the successful bidder will get a copy of the sales contract with the health record attached. Breeding records are not required to be released per Florida statutes, but the contact did state to me today no breeding has been conducted on the farm’s own mares in 3 years. AV’s in the breeding collection room certainly look hideous and unused for several seasons. Exception only for the pony stud AV. I will be checking with friends in the area, I’m 45 minutes away from Highlife, to see if they have any stalls available and will try to update this tomorrow for any stalls available to relocate horses and any contacts to move the horses for out of state buyers. anyone interested in the Mares - there are some wonderful mares there and reviewing their produce was a confirmation of their caliber.

I may be in need of a stall if I end up with one of the horses. I have already contacted several shipping companies, one is already going to be in the area so it shouldn’t be too difficult to arrange shipment …