Horrendous Case of 'Alleged' Abuse in VA -

[QUOTE=sid;8377154]
Remember, had this chronic perpetrator of horse/animal horrid abuse, not agreed to relinquish them the authorities who discovered the carnage, the horses that were still barely alive among those and other animals dead all over the property, she could have kept them and let them die.

In Virginia, that’s the law. The authorities may have been able to take the dead carcasses off the property, but they had no ability to actually seize the desperate others, had she not agreed to.[/QUOTE]

I am not quite certain this is entirely correct. By last Wednesday, they felt they had the authority to seize those 10 among the 35 or so that had not been surrendered Monday/Tuesday. I imagine they pursued surrender rather than seizure initially, because it’s an easier process all around. Perhaps over the next 48 hours, working more closely with veterinarians, responding rescuers, and really seeing the consequences of extreme emaciation, law enforcement/CA got a little education and in hindsight, one wonders if next time, they will be a little quicker to determine that a horse in poor condition is “seizable.”

The law is worded “imminent danger,” which is a subjective term that is interpreted by human beings. Hopefully, the Sheriff and the CA now have a better understanding of what level of emaciation constitutes “imminent danger.”

I hope none of these comments causes any offense. We all share the same goal.

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[QUOTE=The Anonymous Foxhunter;8377288]
With respect, because we are all trying to find a solution that works for horses, and for those of us who enjoy them, I fall into the category of people who opine that if you can’t afford $200 to euthanize a horse and another $300 to bury it/have it taken away to the renderers’, you had no business owning a horse in the first place. I have been present when my veterinarians and I made the decision to euthanize a dozen (well, in two cases there was no other option). In an incredibly urgent situation in a very suburban, expensive area, the burial cost $500 – the guy dropped everything and drove his tractor down the local highway to bury the horse before the afternoon lesson kids arrived. In the rural central Virginia area where I presently dwell, I was charged $175 to bury a horse this past August.

Regarding the cost of euthanasia, the alternative of a well-placed bullet, however gruesome it may seem, is humane, cheap, and it would not have been difficult to find a skilled person in Orange County, Virginia, willing to dispatch these doomed animals in this manner, probably for almost nothing. That’s assuming that the area veterinarians wouldn’t have done it for free rather than watch this suffering (the vets working this case with whom I’ve spoken are shattered, and there are some tough oldtime horsemen types among them).

Again, I mean my comments only with respect. We are all upset about this entire situation and it is good to have these discussions to prevent it from happening again.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what you say above. I put figures out there to prompt a discussion of costs. But whatever the cost, we incurred the responsiblity for them when we bred or acquired the horse.

It seems to me that like all issues related to death, we tend to avoid the topic, but a horse is a luxury. If you can not afford to provide for one, don’t acquire one.

Too many people see the horse in terms of a “commodity” they will use for a small window of time and then discard. And then it is “out of sight / out of mind.”

When was the last time “end of life issues” were even discussed at the time of purchase? I think too many buyers see horses in terms of what the horse will do for them, with no regard for their responsibilities to the horse.

We need to calmly intelligently discuss how to deal with end of life issues. We have to have ways to humanely deal with this. I can see that there is the fear that an animal would be destroyed merely for convenience, and it may happen, so we have to decide when and how to address that, but we can’t disallow humane slaughter just because society, fueled by a Walt Disney version of realty, thinks that all old horses will find loving forever homes “in the country.”

We can not rely upon “the other guy” to solve problems for us, nor can we depend upon government agents, who often lack optimal training, education, supervision, experience and judgment. And most of all, we can not allow self agrandising politicians - who are profoundly ignorant of the issue - to push idiotic knee-jerk reaction laws that really only make things worse. We who own horses and understand the complexities of this issue should generate solutions.

There are countries in Europe, some about the size of Ohio, that each year breed more than ten times the number of Warmbloods we do in the USA as a whole, yet they are not overrun with aged and out of service horses. I think they have an ethic that allows for humane euthanasia. And I don’t think all of those horses end up in a grave.

Without taking this off course too much, I agree completely.
If you can’t afford to humanely euthanize your horse, you should not have a horse.
Further, IMO, the ‘can’t afford it’ argument simply doesn’t hold up.
It is a matter of priorities, eat KD for a month, sell your saddle, whatever you need to do to do the right, responsible thing.

Here it costs about $200 for the vet to euthanize, about $200 for the truck to come to pick up, and about the same to get a back hoe in to bury.

As foxhunter said, in this case, or in other cases of suffering, I can’t imagine any vet not doing it for free, or just for the cost of the euthanol.

[QUOTE=The Anonymous Foxhunter;8377295]

The law is worded “imminent danger,” which is a subjective term that is interpreted by human beings. Hopefully, the Sheriff and the CA now have a better understanding of what level of emaciation constitutes “imminent danger.”

I hope none of these comments causes any offense. We all share the same goal.[/QUOTE]

No offense taken. I think we’re all grappling with figuring out “the law” and your point about subjectivity is well taken.

[QUOTE=Linda;8373848]
Lady J 70, I think there are a lot of similarities between being evil and being mentally ill.[/QUOTE]

Oh man, I can’t let this one pass. PLEASE educate yourself on mental illness. We know very little about it’s cause compared to say, heart disease or diabetes, but no one DECIDES to be mentally ill and just because you are, does NOT make you evil.

And stoicfish is right…no wonder mental illness still is such a hidden subject.

You know who I would like to hold accountable? All the people who watched this happen and did nothing. You don’t starve 100 horses over night. She wasn’t living there by herself.

Hay had to be delivered, farriers were there, vets, stable help, neighbors, etc. etc. etc. If people DID report the situation (which I’ve heard from several avenues they did) to authorities and they refused to act, then THEY should be held accountable as well.

[QUOTE=Kyzteke;8377526]

You know who I would like to hold accountable? All the people who watched this happen and did nothing. You don’t starve 100 horses over night. She wasn’t living there by herself.

Hay had to be delivered, farriers were there, vets, stable help, neighbors, etc. etc. etc. If people DID report the situation (which I’ve heard from several avenues they did) to authorities and they refused to act, then THEY should be held accountable as well.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this.Everyone who turned a blind eye.

Thank you to everyone who IS helping now though, so many wonderful people stepping up to help.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but there is a hay bank being set up, and donations can be made, if you would like to help.
I am sure any amount would be appreciated.

http://www.specialhorses.org/fundraisers/hay-bank-fundraiser-for-orange-county-va-rescues/

http://www.vaforanimals.org/

Here is some interesting background information on the high-net-worth individuals who serve on the Board of Directors and as Registered Agent of Peaceable Farm:

http://wina.com/news/064460-the-whos-who-of-peaceable-farm/

Despicable that these individuals have not offered to cover all, and I mean ALL, costs of caring for these animals from the dates of surrender/seizure forward.

UPDATED: The hearing regarding the seizure of ten horses, to which the full board has been summonsed, was continued to November 18. I should still be able to attend.

In addition to this friendly invitation from Orange County Circuit Court, these individuals, along with Ms. Many Aliases, should be expecting love notes with similar extensions of hospitality from the IRS and the Attorneys General of Maryland and/or Virginia.

humane slaughter??? humane euthanasia… but humane slaughter, I sure have never heard of it…

A slaughterhouse in France was just busted for its practices… and they say local s/h are more humane… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275474/Horses-beaten-electric-prods-cows-left-bleed-death-conscious-pigs-crammed-gas-cages-horrifying-footage-French-abattoir-prompted-animal-cruelty-probe.html there is no such thing as a humane slaughter!

[QUOTE=FalseImpression;8378140]
humane slaughter??? humane euthanasia… but humane slaughter, I sure have never heard of it…

A slaughterhouse in France was just busted for its practices… and they say local s/h are more humane… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275474/Horses-beaten-electric-prods-cows-left-bleed-death-conscious-pigs-crammed-gas-cages-horrifying-footage-French-abattoir-prompted-animal-cruelty-probe.html there is no such thing as a humane slaughter![/QUOTE]

Disgusting! What is wrong with people? This is cruel and horrid. I may become a vegetarian after seeing this.

[QUOTE=The Anonymous Foxhunter;8378053]
Here is some interesting background information on the high-net-worth individuals who serve on the Board of Directors and as Registered Agent of Peaceable Farm:

http://wina.com/news/064460-the-whos-who-of-peaceable-farm/

Despicable that these individuals have not offered to cover all, and I mean ALL, costs of caring for these animals from the dates of surrender/seizure forward.[/QUOTE]

So the tie-in between the individuals on the board is Goland/Shumate’s ex-husband, Tony Goland. Two of the board members work or did work at the same large “mult-national consulting firm” as he does, and another is a college associate of his.

Let me guess how this went.

Tony: Hey guys, my wife is starting a non-profit to rescue neglected/abused animals. Why don’t you join the board? It would be a win-win - she needs high profile board members to help attract donors and sponsors, and it would look good on your resumes and public profiles.

It will be interesting to find out if a single one of them EVER visited the premises. It will also be interesting to find out at what point Tony and his wife split, and if he was even slightly aware there were serious issues going on with her mentally and ethically.

Re ; Board Members.
http://wina.com/news/064460-the-whos-who-of-peaceable-farm/

Most recent Tax Return;
http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_12_EO/45-1258469_990_201312.pdf

$64,400 for occupancy? That $5,367 per month for what, the rent or mortgage? On top of that, $123,770 for board? That is $10,314 per month. In my opinion, that is a bunch of hooey. I’m wondering who owns the property? It looks like the property owner is getting paid $15,680 a month for having the horses and the hoarder on that property.

In addition, the report is that “contract labor” fees were $167,026. What would that entail? A barn worker is not contract labor, but employed labor, right?

And how nice that her accountant (husband?) earned $3,000 for for the paperwork which apparently did not include any fundraising. In fact, there were no fundraising expenses.

And isn’t $219,320 a lot of money to list under “Other?”

Wow. The IRS needs to figure out where that money came from and where it went.

Look at this verbiage from the tax return:

Part 1 - Summary
Briefly describe the organizations mission or most Significant actiVities

ORGANIZED AND OPERATED EXCLUSIVELY FORTHE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS AND OTHER CHARITABLE AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES

5 Total number of individuals employed in calendar year 2013 - 0
6 Total number of volunteers (estimate if necessary) - 4

Expenses
Salaries, other compensation, employee benefits - 0

REALLY? They were caring for hundreds of animals with ZERO employees and FOUR volunteers?

And she was claiming “no compensation”?

If they can’t get this woman sentenced to hard time in a correctional facility or psychiatric hospital for the animal abuse, I hope that at least IRS will put a nail in her coffin.

And I hope they take a hard look at the tax returns of all the board members, too.

[QUOTE=DownYonder;8378368]
So the tie-in between the individuals on the board is Goland/Shumate’s ex-husband, Tony Goland. Two of the board members work or did work at the same large “mult-national consulting firm” as he does, and another is a college associate of his.

Let me guess how this went.

Tony: Hey guys, my wife is starting a non-profit to rescue neglected/abused animals. Why don’t you join the board? It would be a win-win - she needs high profile board members to help attract donors and sponsors, and it would look good on your resumes and public profiles.

It will be interesting to find out if a single one of them EVER visited the premises. It will also be interesting to find out at what point Tony and his wife split, and if he was even slightly aware there were serious issues going on with her mentally and ethically.[/QUOTE]

I do believe you’ve hit the nail on the head.

I’ve worked with many, many national non-profits for almost 40 years as one of the top direct response fundraising/marketing specialists in the country. I really study the 990’s and day-to-day “program” that they purport to be doing (the “good deeds”). If I see it’s what in our biz we call a “shell” non profit, I walk away. But I’ve never dealt with this with horses as that non-profit, so clearly I’m pissed off.

In my professional experience, this was a “shell” set up for the very reasons you state, DY.

It’s one thing if a shell n/p screws donors and doesn’t do what it “says” is its “mission” . The horses and animals were their stated mission, and many, many died a long and horrible death and many are still struggling and will for many months. They could not speak and say…“hey, I’m being screwed over and I’m dying” to the BOD. They don’t have a voice or a “representative” to write to. As horse owners, we are their representatives.

Yep, a bogus non-profit in my professional opinion. They flew under the radar, and most likely purposely did not do any overt fundraising to draw attention to themselves in order to stay under the radar and keep all the State AG’s who look at marketing practices (fundraising )that go “public” off their backs.

As I recall, one of the BOD is a specialist in non-profits, so I’m sure he surely knows how to stay under the radar of the non-profit federal law and IRS authorities. :wink:

What’s is troubling, beyond this horrific situation, is that it is that kind of thing that gives a really bad stink to other non-profits that work their asses off to do a lot of good out there in the world.

Bad apples that set up non-profits to feather their own nests taint the do-gooders. So it’s important not to throw the baby out with the bath water. You must do due diligence before contributing to or endorsing any non-profit organization, even with those which are nationally well-known.

Remember, too. Non-profits can change hands. New BOD, new Exec Director. So you need to check them out every time you write a check and see if they are still really adhering to their original mission statement and have not fallen into the hands of hooligans. Just a PSA on non-profit giving.

For who ever commented on “humane slaughter” (objecting to the concept itself) and posting the video link, thank you for your points. You are right. And as horrific as it is to see the video, we have to be aware of what goes on.

I truly do not know what others should be doing. All I know for sure is the commitment I have made to the horses in my care. They will live out their lives with me.

As for the rest of this, I think we have enough information to act. And I think one of us should contact the main stream media, and help frame the story so that it does not get warped and spun into something it is not.

I would not expect a lot from the IRS. And I’d expect even less from local politicians. I don’t know if the media can grasp all that failed in this situation, but possibly a story about the fraud in the context of the abject misery of “death from starvation” would be of interest to one of the networks. For those with first hand knowledge, call your local network affiliate, they will have contact info for network shows like Diane Sawyers.

I recall that a judge once ordered a slum landlord to live for a month or so in his own building. How about this woman and her board be ordered to experience what starvation feels like. Of course no judge can order that because it would be “cruel and inhumane.” At the very least, video images of the luxurious lifestyle of these wealthy Board members - juxtaposed with images of these animals wasting away from starvation - might be powerful.

[QUOTE=Cartier;8378772]
For who ever commented on “humane slaughter” and posted the video link, thank you for your points. You are right. And as horrific as it is to see the video, we have to be aware of what goes on.

I truly do not know what others should be doing. All I know for sure is the commitment I have made to the horses in my care. They will live out their lives with me.

As for the rest of this, think we have enough information to act. And I think one of us should contact the media, and help frame the story so at it does not get warped and spun into something it is not. I would not expect a lot from the IRS. And I’d expect even less from local politicians. I don’t know if the media can grasp all that failed in thus situation, but possibly a story about the fraud in the context of the abject misery of “death from starvation” would be of interest to one of the networks. For this with first hand knowledge, your local network affiliate will have contact info for network shows like Diane Sawyers.

I recall that a judge once ordered a slum landlord to live for a month or so in his own building. How about this woman and her board be ordered to experience what starvation feels like.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

But you DO know what you say in your last para would never happen, as much as we wish it would to drive the point home.

At the end of the day there are few people in the world (ratio-wise) that really care about animals.

The amount of rescues – dogs, cats, horses that become throwaways after the thrill is gone when the responsibility and cost of owning them, for LIFE, is over hits home.

Let’s just do the best we can and come down on this as best we can.

No easy answer for sure.

At the heart of this is the same basic issue that plays out with thousands of variations… and it is profoundly ugly.

Indeed.

I wonder if there really were millions of dollars in donations. I mean - where did all that money go? That place looks like a dump, she sure didn’t spend any money on upkeep, she didn’t feed any of the animals except for a select few. I doubt she spent millions on her breeding operation. No salaries, no employees, no vet bills - that is for sure.

So maybe the scam works this way. Hubby and wife tell the directors - donate a few thousand. We will make it look like you donated a half million and you can deduct a charitable contribution on your tax return for a half million. She keeps what they actually give and spends it on herself and her breeding program.
Or else she has a HUGE substance abuse problem.

I would want to know who the large donors were.