I really don’t have a problem with euthanizing an animal with a bullet, especially when the person doing it is a vet and has a working knowledge of the animal’s anatomy. I can’t for the life of me think of a valid reason to do that on a race track however. Bullets can riccochet and travel in the strangest directions. Its messy, it looks bad, its loud. Its stupid. Whether or not he should lose his license is a valid debate, but there is no doubt he used poor judgement.
Well, without knowing the factual details, I don’t know that I’d go that far, Laurierace. I’d be inclined to believe a vet who said it was the most humane way in the circs. If that is in fact the case then I hope common sense prevails and he is NOT ruled off.
We aren’t talking about the back 40 somewhere and there is no way to get help to a horse in need. This was on the race track. There are people everywhere, why place them in danger even if that danger is small?
One time I saw a horse go down on the track at Pimlico. I can’t remember which of the two main vet practices was called out to euthanize the horse. Whichever one it was used all the euthanasia solution off their truck and the horse was still alive. He was unconscious, but still alive. They called the other vet in their practice and then used all the solution off that truck but the horse was still alive. So they called in the other practice serving the grounds and they gave them the solution off one of their trucks and finally the horse died. He laid on the track for about 40 minutes while all this was happening. It wasn’t far from my barn so I could see pretty clearly everything that was taking place. The horse was clearly out of it and no longer suffering any pain, he just wasn’t dead yet. It happens, its unfortunate but the horse was not suffering so its not that big of a deal. Certainly not a big enough deal to pull out a gun.
Wait…Philly Park didn’t have any drugs for euthanasia? That seems very odd. Horses race all year long there–and there are plenty of breakdowns. How could they “run out” of solution?? Anyone have more details on this shooting?
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Wait…Philly Park didn’t have any drugs for euthanasia? That seems very odd. Horses race all year long there–and there are plenty of breakdowns. How could they “run out” of solution?? Anyone have more details on this shooting?[/QUOTE]
No one said he ran out of solution.Doc said it was the most humane thing to do in this situation.The issue is the fact that no guns are allowed on the track and that’s why (it’s rumoured) he’s losing his license.
So, a race track has the power to take a license from a vet?
There have been a couple of different spellings of this Vet’s name here- what is his actual name? If you need to PM me, please feel free.
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There is more than one type of license. One is the license that allows you to be a practicing vet in a state. One is given out by the racing commission that lets you practice on the grounds of the race track. That is the only one the race track has any power over.
So is there a link to this story? I’m not seeing anything on Bloodhorse.
It just happened and I’m sure it will be in the next issue of the Blood Horse.
Oh…I would imagine it would take a few days none the less,due to the ramifications Doc faces.I’ll have to check out bloodhorse.com.
bloodhorse.com/Bloodhorse have become real weak in terms of posting stories when they actually happen. Often, they are posted days or even a week after something happens. I’m sure they’ve cut so much staff like a lot of other print/newspaper publications.
Thanks for the clarification.
Why shoot rather than the needle??
I’m reallly not sure,but I’m sure we’ll soon get the all the details in the near future.I don’t think this will get swept under the carpet.
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…Also, Las Olas, thank you and thank you for that input on Buthanasia. I do not know why people think that is so “kind”, it is actually quite painful (and long) to attend sometimes. …[/QUOTE]
Is that the pink stuff they inject? Can you elaborate what makes it painful? I’m not doubting you, just need to know for future reference. I already have one drug on my “do not let the vet use” list (succylcholine).
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Read the article, “The Final Furlong”. Link in post #10.
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The issue is the fact that no guns are allowed on the track and that’s why (it’s rumoured) he’s losing his license.[/QUOTE]
Is it possible he had a concealed carry permit? Just wondering.
I don’t have a problem with using a bullet. I’ve euthanized injured/sick wildlife that way - and Mr. JSwan euthanized my pet goat with a round. (it was an emergency euthanasia)
It was instantaneous and there was very little blood. BUT - we make sure it’s a safe shot to make. Is that the issue at the tracks - human safety considerations?
You still can’t bring guns everywhere though even with a concealed carry permit. Tracks generally prohibit firearms. And private properties can prohibit firearms as well - I’m not sure if Philly is or not.
I’m sure there was a good reason for him using a gun vs the usual chemical methods.
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You still can’t bring guns everywhere though even with a concealed carry permit. Tracks generally prohibit firearms. And private properties can prohibit firearms as well - I’m not sure if Philly is or not.
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Yes, I’m aware the permit can still come with restrictions - just didn’t know if having a permit was even a possibility, and if so - a track prohibition existed even for permit holders.
I agree there must have been a good reason - all the more so since revocation of his track license (or whatever its called) was a huge personal risk to take.
Sorry the horse was put down - hope everything else works itself out.
