Horse tests positive for rabies

The reason that rabies is not often detected in horses is because horses are often put down without having a necropsy. You have to take the brain out and send it off for a necropsy. Horses who are sick and stagger around and all aren’t often necropsied. People just say it is something else.

I’ve always given mine rabies shots, you can order the vaccine if your vet won’t give it, I usually have my vet give it yearly. We always had raccoons on the bluff where I grew up on the Vernon River, and rabies went thru raccoons about every 5 years. At one barn, behind Skidaway Island, I once counted 34 raccoons coming thru the marsh and out of the trees to fight for the feed given to horses in paddocks. I fed Cloudy and Callie in their stalls and made sure the vet gave them their rabies shots. Bats too are often rabid and we had bats.

Our neighbors 4 doors down, when I was growing up my horses lived at home, owned a pet and garden shop but diid not vaccinate their own dogs! One dog got rabies, was put down, was necropsied.

People are stupid. Better to vaccinate than to have a dog or cat or horse get rabies. I used to vaccinate the dogs and cats of our support staff in Atlanta every years, and yes I included the rabies shots for their dogs and cats. They bought the drugs and syringes, and I went to their homes on weekends to vaccinate, free of course.

Preventing rabies is easy with a yearly shot. Only a few people have survived rabies.

We have coyotes and foxes, too, and rabies runs thru them as well. Your horse or dog or cat can be bitten by a lot of warm blooded animals, which can carry rabies. And yes, you give a booster shot if your animal is bitten by an unvaccinated animal. It takes about a month for a rabies shot to become fully effective, so do not put it off each spring.

No you can’t just order rabies vaccine many states won’t allow vaccines to be shipped. Where I live vaccine has to be given by a licensed vet. To be recognized as being given. Catalogs with vaccines have it clearly stated which states don’t allow rabies vaccines to be shipped out to…if not a licensed vet.

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Another west coaster here. Rabies is not a standard vaccine and vets do not routinely recommend it. I vaccinate my horses because they live in a pasture and have a lot of exposure to wildlife.

I do all of my vaccines myself, but they do not ship rabies to CA. So, I have the vet does it when she floats the teeth. Maybe this is another issue with people not vaccinating, because you can’t order it and give it yourself. That applies to dogs and cats, too. You can order vaccines for everything else and give them, but a vet has to give rabies.

In my area of the country (Colorado) it seems surprisingly common not to vaccinate for rabies. This year there is a major outbreak in my county and people still seem blase about it.

Maybe it’s because I’m a transplant from the south but I ALWAYS vaccinate all of my animals against rabies. I have a sensitive TB who always reacts badly to the vaccine but he still gets it very year. That’s the one vaccine that I will never, ever skip.

I can buy rabies vaccine for non-companion animals at the local Co-op. IMO it’s foolish for a state to forbid the private use of such vaccines on livestock. But, you don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to get elected to the legislature in most states. A quick trip your state capitol will demonstrate this!

We do our horses, but it’s only been since the state vet. recommend this about 15 years ago. We started having an increase in the incidence of rabid skunks coming out of the Smokes from Carolina. We also have bats and a woman died a few years back after suffering a minor injury in a bat cave on the Cumberland Plateau. She fell and suffered some skinned knees. She did not seek prompt medical treatment. She became ill. By the time a correct diagnosis was made she was terminal. I understand it’s not a pleasant way to go.

For a while we did our own, but now that we have only four horses we let the vet do it. When I did my own I kept a record, and charged the medication on my Co-op account, so I had a record of what we did.

I put down a skunk a few years back who was wandering around at 4 p.m., looking sick, and not showing much fear of persons. I don’t know it was rabid. I took no chances and followed the 3S system.

G.

that’s terrifying in and of itself

I’ve always given mine rabies shots, you can order the vaccine if your vet won’t give it, I usually have my vet give it yearly.

A few states do allow companies to ship the rabies vac to non-vets, and I wish all would. But afaik, NO state recognizes an animal as vaccinated unless there is an official vet record of it being done.

If I ever had a vet who wouldn’t give the rabies vaccine, I would report them.

People are stupid. Better to vaccinate than to have a dog or cat or horse get rabies.

How about, “better to vaccinate than to have a person get rabies” :eek: But absolutely,have the vet give it the (at least) one time a year she is out. Owners may be doing other vaccinations themselves, but they aren’t doing dentals, and if they use a dentist, they should STILL have a good relationship with some vet, even if it’s a cow vet, so you have that go-to for emergency situations. No relationship? You’re not going to be high on the priority list for emergencies.

We have coyotes and foxes, too, and rabies runs thru them as well. Your horse or dog or cat can be bitten by a lot of warm blooded animals, which can carry rabies.

Exactly, and especially with a horse, who seems intent on finding new ways to impale itself on anything and everything, do you KNOW what you’re seeing is, or isn’t, a bite? No, and that’s the reason we regularly give the tetanus vaccine, since we often don’t see smaller wounds. Was it a weird bat bite? Got stuck by a little nail in the pasture that you’ll never find again? Or was it just a stupid little stick?

And yes, you give a booster shot if your animal is bitten by an unvaccinated animal. It takes about a month for a rabies shot to become fully effective, so do not put it off each spring.

Amen.

Back in college, one of my classes spent an entire period on rabies, including showing a film of what happens when a person is infected and in the last stages before death.

That was more horrifying than anything else I’ve ever seen.

I’ve never skipped a rabies vaccine for any animal I’ve owned since then.

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I ordered from a business in the midwest. You say it is for horses. You aren’t supposed to get it for dogs and cats now, because the govt wants a vet record for dogs and cats. For horses, you can order and give it yourself. I prefer a vet to give the vaccine but when necessary, I’ve ordered and received it by specifying for horse use.
So when it says no shipping to named states, you order from the horse section in the catalogue or online.

https://www.unitedvetequine.com/horse-vaccines/equirab-horse-vaccine-rabies.asp

"The following states have laws prohibiting shipment of rabies vaccine:

AK, AL, AR, CA, CT, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, KS, MD, ME, MN, MO, MS, MT, NE, NV, NJ, NM, NY, NC, ND, OR, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WA, WV and WY
If you live in one of the above states mentioned please do not order this vaccine. We will not be able to ship it to you. "

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The regulations vary by State - I mentioned up thread quite a bit, in California, a licensed vet must administer Rabies vaccines. As JB points out, the online catalogs can NOT ship to California (or many other states). Not just for dogs and cats, but for all animals receiving the vaccine.

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It has been said several times but I am going to repeat it.

If you give your own rabies vaccine it will likely not count as a vaccinated animal in your animal is exposed. The vaccine needs to be given by a vet (in most places) to count as your animal being vaccinated.

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Then buy it from your local co-op or maybe Tractor Supply.

The reason so many states want to restrict this is that they don’t want owners “self medicating” their animals without verifiable records. I understand this for companion animals that live in very close quarters with people. If you have someone get bit you want to be able to quickly access a reliable record. For livestock is a very highly questionable process.

G.

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It is horse section of catalog still can’t order it. They won’t ship it out.

No co op or fleet farms carries rabies in there vaccine refrigerater section. Feed stores dont carry it either. Can only be given by a licensed vet here…if not given by vet then not recognised as being a vaccinated animal whether dog, cat or horses.

I have vet do rabies when he’s already here to check teeth and float. Vet will be here in spring 2019 for annual check ups and to geld my stud horse. So will do rabies vaccinations then.

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We had a case by me where the vet was treating for colic/choke. The horse was never sick enough to ship him to the vet school. Until he was and then it was too late. The vet, his tech, the farrier and everyone on the farm had to be treated. The horse was out with cattle which were put down and sent for necropsies. All pets were put on quarantine. One of them became symptomatic and as a result all the pets were put down. All of the vet, vet tech and farrier’s animals were put on quarantine. Luckily they were all fine. It was a mess.
I vaccinate everything on my property and always will.

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But who do you think would have to order it to the store? A non-vet. Which means, you’re not getting it. It’s not even on the TSC website. A search for it brings you to their PetVet section where they discuss vaccination clinics. Brick and mortar stores aren’t any different from you or me. If you’re in one of the above states, it’s not getting shipped to you.

@sunkistbey that is absolutely awful! All because someone didn’t want to pay for a cheap vaccine.

If I were a vet, I would be looking up the animal’s rabies status before working on them for anything involving any body fluids.

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As I noted if you can buy it on line then do so. I you can buy it locally then do so. If you have to use your vet then do so. But I live in TN, one of the "embargo’d states, and our local co-op carries it. Where do they get? I don’t know. But they do (or at least they did when I last bought it from them a few years back).

Now, since it’s just four head I let the vet do it.

IMO if you are in a region where you are at risk for rabies in livestock then you’re foolish if you don’t attend to that risk. How you do it is up to you. Just do it.

G.

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Decades ago we had a cow acting odd, slabbering and staggering around.
We penned her being very careful and called the vet, just in case it was rabies.
The vet looked at her and also thought rabies was a real possibility.
She acted like the ones that tested positive had he had seen.

So, we put her in the squeeze chute, everyone extremely careful to say as far away as possible.
He suited and gloved up and then said “here goes nothing” and went to her head and started examining her, opened her mouth, stuck his hand in there and pulled on something and came out with a forked stick.

We all were still very, very careful around her, you never know, but she healed fine and was ok after all.

You really can’t be careful enough, rabies is deadly.

The reason that rabies is not often detected in horses is because horses are often put down without having a necropsy. You have to take the brain out and send it off for a necropsy. Horses who are sick and stagger around and all aren’t often necropsied. People just say it is something else.

The rabid horse I dealt with came into the hospital for COLIC. It’s not always obvious that its a neurological problem.

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The case we had when I was in vet school, was originally thought to have a pelvic fracture. If she’d had different owners who’d found her totally down in the pasture, I’m sure she’d have been dealt with by emergency fire arm euthanasia and a backhoe. No “say it’s something else” knowing there was a neurological issue that could be rabies, just simple misunderstanding that something else was going on other than a catastrophic pasture injury.

There’s also bound to be a fair number of livestock that are kept on large pasturage, infrequently observed, and found dead, where the owners don’t bother to necropsy for whatever reason, with no intent at trying to hide something.

PSA—in case it hasn’t been said before, in general a rabies test can’t be done on an animal that’s been killed with a gunshot or captive bolt to the brain as there is too much destruction of the tissue that needs to be analyzed.

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The only case I have ever cared for was a sheep who came into the hospital for heat stroke, which turned out to be rabies.