[QUOTE=Unfforgettable;6857619]
Horses don’t hate snaffles. Horses hate bad hands.[/QUOTE]
Amen!!
I can’t say my gelding “hates” snaffles, but he certainly doesn’t go well in any of them - and those have just been the single-jointed ones. I’ve yet to manage to get my hands on a double-jointed bit and see how he goes in that.
Currently I ride him in a Jr. Cowhorse bit that has a double-jointed mouthpiece & copper roller. He does fine in that. He wasn’t ever trained properly, to become any one thing - Western OR English. He rides on some contact just because he always has (didn’t know how to neck rein, move off seat/legs until I started working on it with him, and he still hasn’t picked either up 100%.)
[QUOTE=Emily&Jake;6857912]
I can’t say my gelding “hates” snaffles, but he certainly doesn’t go well in any of them - and those have just been the single-jointed ones. I’ve yet to manage to get my hands on a double-jointed bit and see how he goes in that.
Currently I ride him in a Jr. Cowhorse bit that has a double-jointed mouthpiece & copper roller. He does fine in that. He wasn’t ever trained properly, to become any one thing - Western OR English. He rides on some contact just because he always has (didn’t know how to neck rein, move off seat/legs until I started working on it with him, and he still hasn’t picked either up 100%.)[/QUOTE]
You can’t really say that he doesn’t go well in snaffles when you have only tried one kind of snaffle out of the thousands there are out there. Even your non snaffle bit isn’t a single jointed bit so why would you think he’d go well in a single jointed snaffle?
[QUOTE=ElisLove;6857994]
You can’t really say that he doesn’t go well in snaffles when you have only tried one kind of snaffle out of the thousands there are out there. Even your non snaffle bit isn’t a single jointed bit so why would you think he’d go well in a single jointed snaffle?[/QUOTE]
Finish the first paragraph. I SAID that those have just been the single-jointed ones that he doesn’t go well in. ANY of the single-jointed ones. I didn’t say any of the ones that have different mouthpieces. 
ETA: I bought my double-jointed bit after already having a single-jointed mouthpiece. Not vice versa.
If this is a Jr Cowhorse bit, then you are not riding in a snaffle.
As many posters to this thread have observed, the definition of a snaffle bit is that the reins attach directly to the bit rings. It can have a jointed or solid mouthpiece. It cannot have shanks. That makes it a leverage bit.
[QUOTE=pAin’t_Misbehavin’;6858586]
As many posters to this thread have observed, the definition of a snaffle bit is that the reins attach directly to the bit rings. It can have a jointed or solid mouthpiece. It cannot have shanks. That makes it a leverage bit.[/QUOTE]
The problem is, IME, the majority of western riders are taught that any a broke mouth piece is a snaffle, regardless shanks. Just google “tom thumb snaffle” to see what I mean. :eek:
