How high should I be jumping?

[Jaideux]

[QUOTE=meupatdoes;7096320]
Can you elaborate? Why is a high IQ embarrassing?[/QUOTE]

(Here, “you” is the general you, not meupatdoes or the OP specifically)

I’m not sure she’s saying a high IQ is embarrassing, but talking about it like that kind of is. It seems in poor taste, like talking about how much money you make. Even if that number is true, at most social gatherings people will probably doubt the veracity of that claim, making them discount other things about you. Sure, it’s their problem not yours, but if you are bringing it up clearly you want people to buy into it and you for whatever reason.

So if you feel the need to talk about your high IQ in front of others, making it lower number (that is still of course above average) is probably more socially-facile than the extremely rare actual IQ. Especially if you got that number from anyone or anywhere that isn’t a licensed psychologist

Of course, if you’re at a MENSA meeting or perhaps actually having lunch with Mr. Hawking, then by all means go with the real number lol.

[McGurk]

Personally, I have never uttered the number in ANY setting, for most of the reasons Jaideux has listed, and because I believe people’s reactions would be either 1.) You’ve got to be kidding or 2.) If she’s that smart, why isn’t she more successful? Or some combo of the two.

[halo]

[QUOTE=Eatprayride;7094638]
I’m 12 years old and I won’t tell you how high I’m jumping now, but I’ve been riding for seven years, started jumping(like trotting over crossrails) was set back by an horrible accident later that year, and got back to jumping when I was nine or ten. My current horse can jump up to 4’6" and is 11 years old, an adequate mount. I ride a lot during the summer, but maybe only 1, 2, or 3 days every week during the school year, one being a flatwork day. Of course, then I see the eleven-year-olds who I have years of experience on doing five-foot courses and I’m like, how is that possible? All of my friends jump the same height as I do and we compete in USEF’s together, so I’m confused:confused:??? Any guesses on what I should be jumping?[/QUOTE]

Im just a teensy bit skeptical over this thread, but I will just say that you say you have “years” of experience over 11 year olds doing 5 foot fences. What makes you say that? How do you know they didnt start riding as 5 year olds like you say you did?

[meupatdoes]

[QUOTE=Jaideux;7096374]
(Here, “you” is the general you, not meupatdoes or the OP specifically)

I’m not sure she’s saying a high IQ is embarrassing, but talking about it like that kind of is. It seems in poor taste, like talking about how much money you make. Even if that number is true, at most social gatherings people will probably doubt the veracity of that claim, making them discount other things about you. Sure, it’s their problem not yours, but if you are bringing it up clearly you want people to buy into it and you for whatever reason.

So if you feel the need to talk about your high IQ in front of others, making it lower number (that is still of course above average) is probably more socially-facile than the extremely rare actual IQ. Especially if you got that number from anyone or anywhere that isn’t a licensed psychologist

Of course, if you’re at a MENSA meeting or perhaps actually having lunch with Mr. Hawking, then by all means go with the real number lol.[/QUOTE]

I was wondering because that commenter specifically mentioned being a neuropsychologist of there was apparently more to it.

Personally I find the OP rather obnoxious, with her tales of having the funding (uh, her parents have the funding…) and thinking that just because someone pays for her to ride with a big fancy trainer her 12yo self can ignore her team trainer, and wow do I wonder how she behaves with respect to the other kids, but that level of obnoxious is completely sepearate from any neuropsychological reason why an IQ in the 150’s ought to be embarrassing.

Unless that commentor was just dropping “neuropsychologist” in their for kicks?

I’m a lawyer and I think the OP’s behavior on this thread and vis a vis her team would be embarrassing at parties.

[LulaBell]

I read that neuropsychologist comment as if you’re going to fib/lie/exaggerate/whatever, do it realistically.

[RileysMom]

LulaBell, that was exactly my point. The average full scale IQ is 100. The standard deviation is 15. Thus, an IQ of 135 puts you in the very superior range (with an equally good percentile). It’s the case that many people over report their IQ, because of lack of knowledge of the actual scales and realistic scores. And those IQ “tests” found on the internet do not compare to the actual tests/scales.

[hunterrider23]

As someone with an actual 130s IQ per 7th grade testing (mostly Raven’s Matrices and the like; maybe the WISC method?) I had for honor program admittance, my grammar is awful and still a bit better than OPs I highly doubt that she’s up there with the great minds of today. Also the only 11 year olds that I’ve heard of jumping 5ft are few and far between. I don’t even think Ms. Colvin was likely doing that at her age. Regardless, if OP is truly having problems or concerns, these should be brought up to her trainer.

[DoubleTwistedWire]

Maybe it’s just because my IQ is only in the 120s, but I’m not understanding why you think jump height correlates with age, or even skill level? Because using that logic, neither Robert Dover, who doesn’t jump, nor Phillip Dutton, who “only” has to jump 4’ to go around a 4*, are doing as well as the 11 year old you know. And that makes absolutely zero sense to me.

It’s about learning to do something well and consistently, regardless of one’s age. Maybe, at 12, you want to still be doing the small ponies and doing it well in your last year, and get to Indoors. Maybe you want to move up from the ponies and do the Children’s or the Juniors. What height should you be jumping to meet your goals?

[Hippolyta]

Just b/c someone can hold on & stay on over a big jump doesn’t mean they should be jumping it. Wouldn’t you rather be a good rider over the size you & your horse are currently able to handle, than a yahoo that can cowboy over stuff, risking your horse & yourself? (and even worse, while looking like an idjit)

I want to see these 11 yr olds going over 5 feet. Hell, 5 feet is big to a lifelong, decent ammie rider, isn’t it?

[Jorjor]

I agree with what others have said. I’m 18 now, I still only do 1.00 to 1.15 classes and I’ve been riding for 11 years now.

But then again I can’t ignore the fact that I had very unstable beginnings, I constantly went barn to barn and was often stuck at places with incompetent trainers and worn out horses.

Because of that I don’t spend time worrying about that kind of stuff. Riding isn’t gymnastics. There are no markers of where your supposed to be after X amount of years. Just go at your own pace and don’t obsess over how other people are progressing. Your journey is uniquely your own.

FYI Not even Reed Kessler was jumping 5ft at age 12. Relax lady :lol:

[GingerJumper]

[QUOTE=Eatprayride;7095191]
FYI, I’m a genius 12 year old with an IQ of 152. I just happen to also ride horses. I have a very extended vocabulary for my age.[/QUOTE]

I’m not going to comment on the rest of the thread, but it’s incredibly tacky to straight up say your IQ, and it makes you look like a liar if you give a really high number like 152 (even if it is the correct number).

[SillyHorse]

Especially when you start with “FYI.” :lol:

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

I’m now really annoyed I didn’t have my IQ tested in my early 20’s (I’m pretty sure I’m not as smart now as I used to be). I just feel so left out of this conversation. sigh

This reminded me of an incident I had forgotten. I was sitting at the lunch table with a classmate at the beginning of law school and he asked me to take a look at his resume. I said sure. I read it over and had to ask if he had ever worked a job or volunteered any where or done anything extracurricular? I was hoping there was something, even if unrelated to law, we could add to show work ethic. I gave him some examples of non-law jobs I had worked in high school and college. His defensive response, “well I didn’t need to have a job like that, my parents make $100,000 a year!” [When evaluating that sum, keep in mind he grew up on the coast.] Head scratcher. Anyway, I wasn’t going to tell him what my parents made to prove my point about working regardless because 1) SUPER, SUPER tacky and I would never do that 2) so irrelevant!!!

But it basically told me and everyone at the table everything we needed to know about Paul. That is why you don’t want to brag. Even if a 152 IQ is way more impressive than Paul’s parents salaries.

Luckily you are not 22, so you get a pass. I still say stuff I instantly regret at my advanced age–you would think I would learn. To get back on topic, I stand by my earlier advice. Go talk to your trainer. Have fun. Be safe.

[McGurk]

BTW, I thought “genius” was considered 160 anad above.

[SillyHorse]

When I was a little girl, oh, four or five, my father responded to something I said with, “You’re a genius!” I had never heard the word, and jumped to the conclusion that it was not a good thing. “I am NOT a genius!” I shouted. I was right! :lol: 138 is nowhere near genius level.

[Ponyplusaninch]

Benefit of the doubt here–I have an English teacher and a lawyer for parents. My syntax and vocabulary at age 10 were pretty astounding. I didn’t communicate on the same level as peers, so typically any and all feedback I got from them was, “she’s weird”; therefore I’d say some pretty outrageous things alongside the brilliant. Around college I finally started processing behavioral/verbal feedback more readily because it was on a level I’d been speaking for nearly a decade. No genius, just exceptionally verbal.

Point being, the OP’s post sounds like something I would have written at that age. It’s credible to me.

And I agree with others’ responses on here: plenty of time to move up. Even when I was showing at my highest as a junior (at age 17), the majority of the time at home was spent schooling exercises at 2’6’’ that were plenty challenging mentally without being overly demanding physically.

[2bayboys]

OP, you don’t actually tell us what height you are jumping now, but are you winning at the height at which you competing? In other words, have you mastered your current level?

[Lady_Eboshi]

How good is your lower leg?

If it doesn’t move, sky’s the limit!

Most people have a lot of work to do . . .