How is ML so good at dressage ?

[MsRidiculous]

@gottagrey

I think some of the criticism of her is fair, some however, is not.

Totally agree.

[RacetrackReject]

@anon69112984

If they are officials by the FEI they are not full fulling their obligation as officials not doing anything but spreading gossip…

They did their job, they set up people to stop her vet from sneaking back into the barns after hours at Rolex. I’m not seeing the problem. When it was brought up and questioned on this board, officials who post here and were at Rolex confirmed it.

[baywithwhite]

@RacetrackReject

Over the years, there have been more than a few people who stabled next to her, or were officials at FEI events that have posted about questionable behavior and empty tubes of calming products and her vet being barred from the FEI barns in Kentucky during an event. Even without the bloody mouths on multiple horses, her reputation is not squeaky clean.

I’ve been vocal about ML and the multiple bloody mouths on her horses on social media. I did want to respond to what I bolded above. If you think ML is the only person at the FEI barns in Kentucky with empty tubes of calming products (especially before dressage), then I’m glad you still see UL eventers through such innocent eyes.

[RacetrackReject]

@baywithwhite

I’ve been vocal about ML and the multiple bloody mouths on her horses on social media. I did want to respond to what I bolded above. If you think ML is the only person at the FEI barns in Kentucky with empty tubes of calming products (especially before dressage), then I’m glad you still see UL eventers through such innocent eyes.

I have never seen it at any of the events I have attended, but I also never said that she was the only one. I just said that people who have stabled next to her have commented on it.

I’ve been in the eventing world for over 20 years, I know the horrors that have gone on, but that isn’t what this thread is about.

[omare]

Is Kitty aka Scandalous? This was her performance record prior to going to ML taking over the ride.

https://data.fei.org/Horse/Performance.aspx?p=87FA774623AB296D5B6348934EF74BBC [TABLE=“cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0”]
[TR]
[TD]24/08/2013[/TD]
[TD]Hamm[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]42.4[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]XC-R[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22/09/2012[/TD]
[TD]Hamm[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]46.3[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]XC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17/08/2012[/TD]
[TD]Bad Harzburg[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]44.1[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]XC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12/05/2012[/TD]
[TD]Everswinkel[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]37.5[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]119.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[omare]

https://data.fei.org/Horse/Performan…6348934EF74BBC

If Kitty Is RF Scandalous it appears she had been eliminated three times in her last three starts before changing barns.
[TABLE=“cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0”]
[TR]
[TD]19/09/2014[/TD]
[TD]Unionville PA[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]CIC2*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10002167[/TD]
[TD]Marilyn LITTLE (USA)[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]42.4[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]9.2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]79.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24/08/2013[/TD]
[TD]Hamm[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]42.4[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]XC-R[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22/09/2012[/TD]
[TD]Hamm[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]46.3[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]XC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17/08/2012[/TD]
[TD]Bad Harzburg[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]EL[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]44.1[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]XC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12/05/2012[/TD]
[TD]Everswinkel[/TD]
[TD]GER[/TD]
[TD]CIC1*[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]10019637[/TD]
[TD]Vivien REDDIG (GER)[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]37.5[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]119.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[omare]

https://data.fei.org/Horse/Performance.aspx?p=87FA774623AB296D5B6348934EF74BBC
if Kitty is Scandalous this shows her EU record.

[luckycricket123]

@RacetrackReject

They did their job, they set up people to stop her vet from sneaking back into the barns after hours at Rolex. I’m not seeing the problem. When it was brought up and questioned on this board, officials who post here and were at Rolex confirmed it.

I wonder if you have any sources for this, be that COTH board postings or otherwise.

Blood in the mouth has been well documented, the yellow cards/warnings are documented as well, but I don’t remember this story and I couldn’t find anything from Google

[Jealoushe]

I see people use calming tubes at small horse trials here in Ontario too. Not that shocking.

[Jealoushe]

Currently winning the Open Intermediate B on a 20.2.

[tbchick84]

@Jealoushe

Currently winning the Open Intermediate B on a 20.2.

When is XC?

[Jealoushe]

Forgot the link https://legacy.evententries.com/livescoring/17288.html

@tbchick84 Sat 12:36 pm

[tbchick84]

@Jealoushe

Forgot the link https://legacy.evententries.com/livescoring/17288.html

@tbchick84 Sat 12:36 pm

thanks

[mimiwenk]

Finished 1st in her division

[RedMareRider]

@Libby2563

@RedMareRider Can you explain what you mean by this part? RayLyn Farm is in Frederick, MD, and there are a ton of excellent XC schooling opportunities in the MD/VA/PA area. Or is that not where ML is actually based anymore? (I mean, I’m sure she winters down south but what about the rest of the year?)

ETA: Ha, @Mango20 posted with the exact same question while I was writing this. Glad to see I’m not the only one confused!

Sorry, I should have specified that I am only familiar with her and her farm in Wellington. I am certainly no eventer, I stick to the little white box of fun.

[2LaZ2race]

Update : she’s still really good at dressage. (red hills)

[LovieBird]

@2LaZ2race

Update : she’s still really good at dressage. (red hills)

I thought about this thread as soon as I saw the scores 😂

[gardenie]

So I looked at her xc ride at Rocking Horse, and I have to say IMHOP that was pretty nice. And interesting that she scored a 20 in dressage, clean in stadium, and went slow with 21.20 time and still was second at Red Hills. Will be interested to see the video from Red Hills as well.

[enjoytheride]

I’m glad to see her with time penalties, I assume that is a deliberate result of her last ride.

[Highflyer]

She did an intermediate and an advanced one week apart (Rocking Horse and Red Hills) that is a lot especially with a 15 year old horse. I would hope she wasn’t trying to make time.