How much does it really cost to show?

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This may sound rude, but why does everyone pay for coaching/trainer to come watch them at a show? Does it actually improve your riding THAT day? I only see a couple replies saying they don’t have a trainer at their shows to add to expenses.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is rude, but I have a couple of answers.

First is that learning to show is a different but related skill to learning to ride. There’s knowing all the unwritten rules like how to put your number on or what to do with your hair. There’s ringcraft. There’s value in your coach seeing how you react at exam time. This support is needed if you are new to showing in a particular discipline. You could get it from an amateur friend, but that is still coaching.

I do show without a coach to save on expenses sometimes, especially when I am showing at a lower level or at a level where I’m very confident. I can warm myself up for dressage and do well. But if it’s an important event, there’s no question I will ride better if my favorite coach warms me up.

When eventing, I worked with a coach on a monthly basis and met him at events. I found that extremely valuable and important to my best possible performance.

If I’m riding with a group of people, and we all go with the trainer, it’s frankly just a lot more fun than if I’m just lone-wolfing. It kind of depends on the experience I need and want at the time.

Having my coach ring side is priceless.

Cost for me and pony at unrated local hunter series show:

coaching/trailering - $150
showing in 2 divisions - $15 each/$30
series membership (for the cheaper division cost) - $25
blueberry muffin - $2
carrots - $2.95

You dressage riders are seriously making me miss my dressage show days… :no::lol:

These days I do the A/AA hunter jumper shows with a full service barn. I rarely get out under $1800. Typing that out hurts my soul a bit, but it is what it is!

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I don’t know if they’re still around, but approx 5 years ago there was a crepes vendor at Lamplight for dressage shows and championships. Savory crepes. Breakfast crepes. Dessert crepes. The works.

Added an extra ~$200 to my show bill because those things were DELICIOUS.[/QUOTE]

OH MY GOD! I still have dreams about those fruit crepes with the strawberries and bananas with homemade hot fudge and caramel and whipped cream.

I ate one of those babies every day.

I am on a tight budget so only show at local one-day recognized dressage shows.

I braid, muck, tack up etc. myself and for the price of horse show french fries can usually persuade a friend to help hold my horse, wipe boots, etc. My coach does come and help us warm up but does not school or prep the horses for us.

Entry fees for two classes - approx $100
Trailering - $100-150 (depending on distance and # of horses going)
Coaching at show - $60
Day stall - $30

So total cost per show about $300-$350

Last time I went to an AA show, I wrote a check for just over $900 to the show. That was for two divisions. Oh wait, I won $50 for coming 8th place in a hunter classic :lol: so that got knocked off.

It was $500 for hauling and coaching, and I think I paid just over $100 for the hotel room. But we got a suite type room and split it among 6 girls. Then probably another $200-$300 for food since you can’t really cook in a hotel room (nor do you want to while at a week long show!). No care fees since we were all self care.

When I was showing hunters, I budgeted about $2k a week.

I ride dressage now, and it’s definitely a lot less expensive to show. Most of our shows are over a weekend - usually two back to back one day shows (good for points.) Stalls tend to be around $125-150 for the weekend, and include at least a couple bags of shavings as initial bedding. I generally get additional shavings, which runs around $60 or so, because I like to make sure my horses are comfy and encouraged to lay down and rest. Most of the time I get an additional stall to use as a tack room, and we often get a discount on those (since they don’t need to deal with shavings removal and so on.) Typical cost might be $75-100.

Class fees are usually around $40 each, and it would be typical to do 1-2 classes per day. I travel for work, and thus have tons of hotel points, so I rarely pay for accommodations, but last weekend there was not a local Marriott; the hotel was $145/night. My trainer and our WS stayed in one room, and I had another room, so that was almost $600 for the weekend.

I do my own shipping and my truck and trailer are paid for, so at this point my expenses are gas, and I suppose insurance if you want to allocate that somehow. We do usually go out to dinner at least one night, and my DH will usually pack a cooler with drinks and snacks for us to enjoy during the day, including his famous hand squeezed lime margaritas. :wink:

Mid Atlantic A/AAs 2-2.5K if honest with oneself about including hotel, gas, food. We do a few one day B (now Regional shows) closer to $400, one division/no pro rides.

Wow. Our little local riding club (of which we were members) used to hold 6-8 schooling shows a year in different disciplines. 6 Gymkanas (no class over $4.99 because that was the trip price for drug testing and they couldn’t be bothered), 6-7 Hunter/Jumper shows for which entry in (sample) 6 classes would run you about $60 max. 6 dressage shows, $15 per class (it’s probably gone up to $20 by now), 3-4 events a year, entry of about $35 a class.

You could have your coach along if you wanted, but as members, your coach was probably there anyhow, so you didn’t pay a whole day fee – they were working with several riders already. Maybe $50?

Food from the chuck wagon, $15. We lived 3 blocks away so we didn’t have to trailer in.

Non members paid about $2 more per class than members, IIRC. This was about 8 years ago.

How steep the competition was depended entirely on the type of show and how widely it was advertised. When I ran the H/J shows, we had some big horses from the coast come in a few shows each year, just to jump someone else’s fences on the cheap. They were pretty spectacular. Our Pony Club region had about 3 XC grounds in the region, so we had a little circuit of Combined Tests also on the cheap.

I never got used to the steep steep costs of real shows, and I don’t care about winning very much, so…we would always work the big events and then use our work coupon for schooling days. Much more fun.

It depends on your goals, your area, etc. My budget for showing is very limited. During show season, I will do, usually, one show a month on average. I do only 3-star shows so that I can get USDF qualifying scores. I rarely go to a show more than a 2 hour drive from where I live. I do one day shows only, so no stablng fees. I generally end up spending approximately $225 per show (2 classes), including gas. Add $40 if my instructor can get there and coach me. Add $30-75 if I decide I want video. If I go to one of the further away shows, probably a bit more for gas (my rig). Even doing this limited showing, I have usually managed to get enough scores to qualify for USDF All Breeds and/or our GMO’s annual show (but I don’t go 'cause I can’t afford it!) and or the Regional AA competition. It can be done on a budget.

I’m diving back into the horse show world. Bigger 4-5 day shows are running $1200-1500 all in for 2 divisions, 2 specials, stall, drug fees, trainer fees etc.

The small weekend shows are running approximately $500 for the same.

I show at the local gold dressage shows through Dressage Canada and I try to do it on the cheap. There are typically classes offered on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and I would do anywhere from 4-6 classes on those three days (non FEI).

The show grounds are an hour away, and I catch a ride with my mom in her truck and trailer. (Mom is a senior citizen and I act as her groom while we’re there so I don’t feel too bad about taking a free ride). I also pack a full cooler with meals and snacks (for both of us) for the whole weekend.

Entry fees are typically $275-$350 for 4-6 classes. This includes the entry fees for the classes, the Dressage Canada levy, an administration fee, a tack stall, stabling, and shavings. Bottled water and treats for the horses are provided for free by our provincial dressage body (yes they rock!).

Then a hotel (which my mom insists upon) is about $200 for the weekend, and she pays for that. If I was on my own I would tent. Extras (the occasional dinner out with friends, etc) usually run about $100.

I don’t have a coach ringside and I do my own braiding.

So to do it on the super cheap, I pay between $400 and $500 per three day show.

But this is only possible because my trailering is free, the shows are close to home, and we live in a small and inexpensive province.

[QUOTE=goodhors;8804153]
This may sound rude, but why does everyone pay for coaching/trainer to come watch them at a show? Does it actually improve your riding THAT day? I only see a couple replies saying they don’t have a trainer at their shows to add to expenses.

This is a while back, but I did my lessons jumping under trainer supervision each week. On the weekends I went and showed by myself. It was “believed” that if you were doing pretty well in lessons, then you were capable of riding and showing what you had learned in the classes. There really were no trainers around supervising or observing warm up rides. I braided my horses myself, did the trailering, all the grooming, mucking, got horse and myself prepared and showed. We did pretty well, didn’t win everything, but won and placed well in strong competition. I had confidence in myself, my skills, a really nice couple horses, so we went “horse showing” a lot. I am not reading “rider confidence” in folks showing and needing trainer presence at their show.

I realize that trainers have to earn a living, but are you folks not learning enough in your weekly lessons? Don’t they teach you how to walk a course, prepare horse for the jump, do a proper warm-up before the class, in those lesson sessions? Seems like you should learn enough to be able to have the needed skills to show by yourself after a while. I never would have gotten to show if waiting for my trainer to come to my shows! They had more important things to do, going to upper level or National shows, riding for paying owners to earn money.

When is it ever going to be safe to let you go show without supervision? Trainer fees listed above, add significantly to expenses. Again, does having trainer watching you warm up, compete, actually make a difference in your success in placings or being a better rider in the ring?

Is trainer being there “just how things are done” or really a crutch to feel confident as a good rider because trainer tells you that you are, or got robbed by the Judge?

Back to being “old school” in not expecting trainer to attend my shows, not feeling the need for their presence. I AM PREPARED or not prepared in my skills when I go to the show or competition. Trainer presence is NOT going to miraculously make me that much better now with pointing out faults or good things I do. I can do a lot with that $50 or more dollars a day that trainer is getting. We are not part of a “show stable”, so never have paid those extra costs of being part of the group that needs to look nice at a show. THAT bill would be a nasty surprise![/QUOTE]

I feel like you can’t have thought about this question for longer than a few moments before posting. So, despite the fact that other people have answered you, I’m also going to give you my perspective.

I think showing without a trainer is a great skill. If it works for you, that is super. If money is an issue, it can also be a good option. But I would rather show less, and have a trainer access at shows. Have you ever been in a lesson and thought - I had that rail because I came in to the fence under powered, only to be corrected by your trainer who tells you that actually it was an appropriate pace but your horse was crooked, or you opened up your jumping position too early and affected the hind end?

In essence, your trainer can certainly teach you lots of skills at home, but whether you are correctly implementing them in a more high pressure situation, is a separate question. Having the trainer on the ground can help correct the issues before going in the show ring, or between rounds. It will also help the trainer determine what homework needs to be done between shows rather than relying on the rider’s potentially quite faulty recollection of what happened at the show, and what might have been the cause.

I showed in the hunters for the first time last year and I would NEVER have come home from those shows saying that we were going too slow. The pace felt just fine to me, and typically we have a good pace at home as well. I get backed off at shows/clinics and tend to go slower while I process things. Total rider issue. Its not a conscious decision, and it sure feels that I’m going at a reasonable pace. My trainer, however, is the expert eye on the ground who can tell me what is actually happening. I can assure you that her value is not in patting me on the head and telling me I was robbed. I’m pretty sure I was told that I was lucky more often than good last year!

As for the OPs question, much will depend on what and where you show. I live in a region with an active provincial “B” circuit with end of year championships. I can show approximately 10 times a year between May and August. The shows are two days but division are organized to generally allow horse/riders to only compete one of the days. Those outings typically costs $300 or so with entries (one division), trailering and coaching. A shows, as others have mentioned, will run closer to $1000-2000 per week depending on all the extras.

This is all for Hunter jumpers (specifically jumpers)

If I do a local show, I am looking to spend around $100 for the day but I also groom my own horses and get a lot of costs cut as I help out at the barn at home and have developed a relationship with my trainer.

If I go to a rated show, plan for $1000+ overall. If you can share a horse, haul your own or have costs cut by also being the groom then you can save a chunk of change. If you look for a prize list online of several rated shows you can find an idea of costs for that particular show; $200 stall for week, $40 per class/$150 for division, office fees, etc. it’s not so much the actual fees for the classes but coaching fees, hauling, care fees that raise everything exponentially.

Suddenly I’m very glad I’m a low level dressage rider! I have only gone to schooling shows, have never taken a trainer, and don’t braid. I own a truck/trailer, so I guess the initial outlay of expenses was very high. But a small schooling show near me is around $35/test plus gas and food. No stall rental, no hotel. Max $100 for the day.

I have Saddlebreds in the heart of KY. I can show at county fairs that have higher quality horses than A shows in many areas of the country. A county fair with a trainer can be anywhere from a few hundred to over $1000, depending on distance and such. If I take my “at home” horse, cost is generally ~$100, including fuel (and if not busy, a lot of the time my trainer will be at ringside to help even if I don’t ask). I’m cheap about other stuff- if I haul I stay in my horse trailer, otherwise I seek out $50 hotel rooms. I rarely spend more than $20/day in food for me.

General costs for me- I event, and compete my own horse at preliminary and several others at BN-T.

Entry fees- Usually $200-$250, add on drug fees etc, around $300
Hauling- let’s say $70 in gas (varies quite a bit based on distance!)

For shows where I stable:
Stabling- $200 (average, varies based on venue)
Shavings- $30 (I bring my own)
Gastrogard- $90- feel the need to include as it is so expensive!
Accommodation/food- I bring food and stay in super cheap places (or camp) so I try to keep it at $150 or below per weekend

FEI events- I budget $1k per event, all things included except food and accommodation.

None of the above includes necessary memberships (USEA, USEF, FEI, and corresponding horse registries). Add on the cost of maintaining FEI passport for the horse, the increased cost of maintenance (Legend/Adequan, soundness checks before big events, pads and stud holes for shoes that they wouldn’t need if not competing, electrolytes, etc), and things like XC schooling, lessons, going to jumper and dressage shows to practice… the costs of competing are often quite a bit higher than just what you spend in a weekend. It was a rude awakening for me when I moved my horse up to preliminary and 1*- the costs of horse maintenance get higher as your competition level goes up, sometimes significantly.

On the subject of having your trainer at shows- I am of the opinion that we are learning all the time, and I truly believe that that education continues at a show. No, you’re not going to fix any major issues at a show, but you are still growing and learning with every experience. I trust that my trainer can help me work through issues at home, and as such, I trust that she can help me decide what route I should take at a tricky XC combo, or help me get my horse jumping well in warmup to set us up for success when we are out on course. As a trainer myself, I like to be there for my students to help them apply what we work on at home. I aim to continually help them improve, and if I can be there in warmup to help them achieve success by helping them get a good jumping canter, or aiding them in getting their horse relaxed and fluid, or just easing show nerves- why wouldn’t I?

Coaching at shows is, in large part, getting your riders in a mental place where they can apply the skills they already know. Simple in theory, but tricky in practice, and it’s why a good coach is worth every bit of the fee that you pay.

WOW!!! You have all reminded me why I trail ride! Thank you for the reminder! Carry on!

It varies like crazy, based on whether a hotel room is required.

I don’t have enough recognized shows local to me (dressage, in Phoenix/Scottsdale) that I could qualify for the year-end awards by attending only those. This year and last, it’s been one show in the Fall and two in the Spring.

So I have to travel to Tucson to show, where there are also typically one in the Fall and two in the Spring. And that means a hotel room, in addition to all the other expenses. I haul down there myself, I have a 2H and a truck for hauling.

And then in the past two years, I’ve gone over to CA to show at just one show, too. Which has meant a rental car, a flight, paying to ship the horse, AND the hotel room, on top of the rest (class and entry fees, stall, shared tack stall, instruction, share of coach’s hotel room).

It’s really expensive. If I didn’t want to get on the various year-end lists I could scale way back. I justify it for now by reminding myself that I was past 50 before I got to compete in horse show as an adult. And I show a little-seen breed (a Lipizzan) so there’s a little bit of ambassadorship on behalf of our registry going on.

I take it season by season, and have no long-term plans beyond earning a bronze medal. After that goal, if I reach it within four seasons as I have hoped, then, I will probably scale back considerably.

It’s really expensive.

I show in A shows, hunters.

I would budget $2500-$3000/week per horse.
1 Division + show fees, stall, bedding hay, trainer splits ~$600+/-
Day care- $50x6=300
Full care-$50x6=300
Trainer-$100x3 days (2 showing one practice)= $300
hotel (six nights) $150 x6=$900
Trainer and staff hotel= 150-300
Shipping???-commercial or do you ship yourself?

you can save more money if you go fewer days and find cheaper places to stay. That’s where I usually see costs savings. If you do your own care, obviously that helps too. Some trainers allow that some do not. Some places it’s hard to get cheaper hotels and $150 doesn’t cover it (Saugerties. ugh)