I was told she was 10 ive had her about 7 months.
she is in a dry paddock shelter with hay nets filled twice a day. Ive been doing ground work and hand walking on trails since i got her. I have got her to the point i can lunge her calmly change directions and stop with body language. Disengaging her hips her backing is still super lazy though. I do watch and try to follow clintons videos. I did try a desensitizing clinic which really set us back. Trainer was an idiot. She is very atheltic she would make a wicked barrel horse which is what i had hoped to do with her later down the road. Im in bc canada.
My guess is a resounding āNO!ā The few Iāve ever dealt with were NOT in the business of training. They were in the business of āre-homing.ā They did just enough to get the horse to be handled and into a trailer so it could go someplace else.
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and even if they do this horse needs an experience rider to teach her confidence, so switching to someone without that confidence can cause the reaction this horse is havingā¦not saying OPās exercise plan is ābadā, in fact it would be quite suitable for a more mature horse already educated who just kind of āneeds something to do other than eatā in between trail rides, but it is no where near enough to teach this horse how to be confident under saddle OR burn off energy, which is what this horse needs.
My experience also. They are more likely to have some ground work amateurs around. But most horses that come through rescues are not riding fit at that point and it tends not to be a priority.
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Well, my idea would be to market her as an arena horse. If anyone inquires about trails - be honest. She hates them. Lots of people who just want to ride in an arena. At least you have been straight up about your inability to fix this - you know your limitations. This does not make you a bad person. It makes you an honest person. Would I buy this horse from you. No, cause I love trail riding and I HATE rearing no matter how small. But at the right price and the right wording, the right person WILL come along. Good luck.
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How frequent is the rearing? Every time? Only outside a paddock or arena? Someone in your initial thread wondered if the horse had ever actually been backed at all. Their theory is probably correct. What about advertising her as a complete do over from the ground up? I see ads like that all the time. āReady to go in any direction!ā
(On a side note: if she is indeed not as broke as was represented to you by the seller, she might not be a candidate for trails for a while. Some horses never are. I know a OTTB in itās teens that is awesome in the ring. Competes and wins at 3ā6". Can be relied on for adult beginner lessons. Made his lead line debut last year because thatās who the child desperately wanted to ride. Placidly lets the 5yo child lead him all over. You just donāt try to fox hunt or hack out on him unless you want to die. Everyone just accepts it and works around it. He has so much to offer in the ring and at shows.
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One of the ārescuesā around here Iāve long disliked because theyāre flat out reckless. Anything it takes to get a horse off their hands. Assuring the sweet mom that hadnāt ridden in 20 years and had a tiny 6yo just starting walking lessons at a western barn we used to go to that a freshly OTTB with serious ground handling issues would be the perfect horse for her and her tiny 6yo to share and learn on together. (!) Someone rescued them from the rescue, thank goodness.
Putting a kid or youngster on a horse that rears and bucks is the [worst] idea yet.
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Sticky, talented, confident teenagers are often great for anxious, green horses that need some training and confidence. Betting most of us that rode at that age were on horses like this mare or with other āissuesāā¦and came out of it with a bigger training toolbox and an improved horse.
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Yes, some do.
The better ones, imo, rehab the horse to the point that their niche (companion, light riding, pleasure horse, show horse, etcā¦) has been found and they leave ready to fill that niche with their adopter. To those who arenāt aware of better rescues in their area ā¦ yikes! Maybe look around to find one.
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Iām sure their parents appreciate your desire to advance their horsemanship via riding horses that buck and rear. So what happens if one of these kids gets hurt? Is the OP supposed to pay the hospital bills? Or maybe she should make them sign a liability release so Mom and Dad get stuck with the bills?
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Agree, not a great idea and likely a liability.
Do you have any real experience in horses, besides the coin operated ones outside the supermarket?
I hope you find something in life to make you happy. Itās clear from your posts that youāre desperately unhappy now. Iām sorry youāre in such a dark place, and I hope you find help soon Ć¢ā¢Ā„ĆÆĀøĀ
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In the Around the Farm forum thereās a whole thread, lessons taught by boarder or something like that, about liability of (kids, newbies, etc) riding horses without proper insurance in place.
Sometimes the dichotomy in opinions on COTH wrt basics like this are really surprising.
No because there are a lot of us who rode the rank ponies and horses as kids. As a kid, I could out ride my adult self. Not everyone bubble wraps their kids.
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Youāre completely missing the point.
Keeping a kid off a rearing horse is far from bubble wrapping. And the OP doesnāt have her own kid to sacrifice, so sheād be sacrificing someone elseās kid, hence I used the word āliabilityā which it would be.
But go ahead, have your own kid help the OP.
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Iām not missing the point you are missing mine. Many of us here have ridden horses like the one the OP has as kids. If my hypothetical kid was up to the task despite the risks I would let them ride this horse if they wanted too.
Peoples risk tolerances are different. Some people actually learned how to deal with these types of problems as kids instead of always riding the quiet horse. My first horse at 16 was a yearling. Her pasture friend was a rank OTTB. I survived without serious injury.
The point everyone is missing is that you donāt fix a rearing bucking horse by riding out the rearing and bucking. The horse in question has anxiety issues that are causing all of this, and unless the good riding kid has experience and understanding of horse behavior that most adults have not grasped, you are not going to fix the problem by putting a kid on the horse. You fix the anxiety issues on the ground and then get on, and you always have an eye looking out for the anxiety to redevelop. At the first sign the horse is getting anxious, you address the anxiety. So therefore, you never have to ride a rearing bucking horse. Most kids are not that advanced in their knowledge or experience to do this. The OP certainly is not, and most people who have commented are not. To paraphrase Yogi Berra, Itās 85% mental and the other half is hard work.
I agree with Angela that it would be irresponsible to put a kid on a horse that has known dangerous behaviors. Riding already has inherent risks, and yes we all survived to tell the tale, but you canāt risk other peopleās kids.
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Your apparent implied suggestion that your experience as a rider of the rank differs from the experience of those advising care wrt risk and liability is interesting.
I advise caution in this situation as someone like yourself, who rode the buckers and the runaways as a kid, up to the rearer a couple years ago.
My caution does not come from a lack of knowledge or experience, but actually the opposite because if it.
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Of course. And those of us who make or agree with suggestion take that as a given. So if a kid has the ability why not. Just because some adults donāt have the skill set or desire to ride anything that isnāt a packer does not mean kids canāt or donāt have the skill set. I had/have the skill set. Itās why I lived to tell the tale.
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