Free jumping video I received today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXxxck-Kx2Y
Still not level with the forearm and knees down. He does not seem to have the right kind of shoulder.
I will refrain from commenting on the method of free jumping used or surroundings other then say they are not doing the horse any favors in either showing form or contributing to a solid education in basics.
Im sure somebody else will though.
Okay, I give up. Bad idea.
I am just going to come out and say it. I don’t think this horse should be kept a stallion. He doesn’t seem to have outstanding conformation, nor an above average jump or gaits (for any discipline). I think that if he has a wonderful temperament he may make an amateur very happy, but there are already so many stallions in this world. He will probably be much happier a gelding.
At this point you have a lot of emotion and time invested in this horse, just stop asking internet strangers for advice and take him to the actual approvals and see what they say about the horse. Then you’ll have an informed opinion from people with credentials in sport horse breeding.
Without respect to the horse’s merits, do not keep him a stallion to make little hunter babies because people prefer and pay more for WBs. The market just isn’t there. TBs are sort of a hot topic of conversation but 99% of the horses at shows are still WBs. And people aren’t going to go out of the way to go adding blood in right now, because many domestic US breeders have at least some TB mares already (though this is changing and many have very nice WB mares!). They are looking for the best WB stallions. But few have so much WB blood they need to dilute it with a TB stallion. That is my impression anyway. And if they do, we have some TB stallions here that have actually shown and proven themselves in the hunters (Smallwood’s new stallion, AFR, etc.)
Fordtraktor thank you very much for your response, I really appreciate it!
An other discipline, with regard to eventing:
http://www.elmar-lesch.de/index-engl.html
The highest priced horse at the 2015 Top-Event-Horse-Auction is sold to the USA
http://www.horsetelex.de/horses/pedigree/1788521
Despite all those nice horses in the USA.
OMG, cut his nuts off and be done with it already!
The US imports lots of horses from Europe, But not a lot of thoroughbreds.
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this ^^^^ I will add… do it for the passion. If not hang up your spurs. Horses are not a get rich scheme and stallions especially not. If you see something in him that he must keep his balls (although, I am not sure what that is. We have many typical (and decent) TBs here in the USA and they have problems finding homes)… compete him at high levels and let the success show. Only then will he peak the interest of any person in USA
He definitely seems to have nice gaits for a TB; I think, though, as others have suggested, that you need to consider your market.
He does not appear to have the jump to breed hunters for the North American market. This doesn’t mean he “can’t” jump - rather that he doesn’t have the style that hunter riders/breeders prefer.
Is there an alternative market he could be targeted at? He may have possibilities as an event sire; however, he needs to be targeted towards this in his training. You also need to consider that there is not a huge event breeding market in North America.
I think your best bet is to continue with his training, if this is what you wish to do, and (as others have said), have him assessed by some experts/inspectors and go from there.
Considering the market is what I am doing now. Thank you Tradewind.
We are going to continue his training and he will soon be inspected.
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I mean this in the most helpful way possible - you might consider removing all these videos and pictures 
They don’t do him any favors, and several of them really make him look fairly awful. Even the best horses have awful moments, and if you’re even thinking about marketing that horse - stallion, mare, performance horse - you don’t let them float around freely
Not really sure exactly what you are fishing for? Pardon American expression for someone looking for a particular type of feedback.
Folks here have already said no not a hunter type, no not their type to import, and no not what they are looking for as breeding potential.
He’s not got the conformation to breed nor proven in any discipline for competition. What else do you want to hear?
Nothing more thank you.
Only time can tell really.
There is a huge surplus of Thoroughbreds in the US. As others have told you there is no market for a TB hunter stallion from overseas. Good TB mares are much cheaper than warmbloods of similar quality so US breeders wanting a TB cross keep it on the dams side. We have a few good hunter TB stallions here already and they are not making it rich on stud fees. If you want to keep him a stud, that’s all your decision but don’t expect anyone in the US to pay money to breed to him. He doesn’t have the jump or the movement.
Fielding & Bravo! Two Very Lovely WB Approved and Proven Stallions.
Both stallions with great pedigrees that have been gelded & sold into the hunter world. Their quality was obvious…but in the end, more profitable to geld.
For Full disclosure, I have a fabulous TB/WB cross by Bravo, so I can attest to his quality as a stallion. My comment has nothing to do with being an anti TB lover.
I was not thinking of promoting him to American breeders. I was thinking of how to promote him to European breeders. Global thinking breeders, as most people here only breed either for showjumping or for dressage.
I was not thinking of promoting him to American breeders. I was thinking of how to promote him to European breeders. Global thinking breeders, as most people here only breed either for showjumping or for dressage.
There are a number of places like this one in Holland. http://www.stalwijnschenk.nl/en/horses/hunters/-sold-to-the-usa--hunter-prospect/ http://www.stalwijnschenk.nl/en/horses/hunters/
Why would European breeders want to breed to intentionally kill movement and jump in their lines just to produce hunters for Americans, when they already produce plenty anyway out of their current programs? There is certainly no shortage of jumpers who are pretty but lack a ton of scope, or dressage horses who don’t have the top movement or ability to sit but go over jumps with good form. Why breed specifically for mediocrity?
