I don't think I want to get into competing...anyone else like me?

It is Ok to not compete or to not want to compete.

I used to take tennis lessons. I was a decent enough player. The tennis pro wanted me to sign up to the local adult tennis competitions. I was just not interested. I had a long hard competitive day at work. The last thing I was interested in was more winning or losing. Competition was not fun. So I did not do it.

I have shown horses most of my life. But within the past year, my interests in showing has dropped away. It is more like a habit, like I should want to show, rather than I want to show. I tried to work up the interest in it, but it just is not there right now. And that is OK. I do not have performance nerves. That is not the problem. I just-- I don’t want the hassle. It is not fun. I do not want to do the early mornings and the long days. I do not want to have to drill away at some goal when I ride. I just want to hang out and do whatever my horse and I are in the mood for, which might be a lot of productive work, or might be pottling along on a loose reined walk.

Showing can be fun and an incredible rush. But if it is not those things to you, it is not worth it. A hobby is for fun–and more most of us-- horses are a hobby, not a profession. Enjoy it the way you like. Don’t let anyone else steal your joy in your horse time.

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In general I am not seeing adult beginners in their first year on a horse competing in shows. It’s different for little kids; as I mentioned below there are even classes for little kids who can’t ride yet. As an adult, I think it’s reasonable to postpone showing until your skill levels are more on a par with your other adult competitors.

The wonderful thing about horseback riding is that it is part of the category of “joy in movement” sports that can be wonderful without any thought of competition. Sports that require a lot of skills but also have a lot of intrinsic reward.

In this way, I would lump riding in with skiing, skating (in places with outdoor frozen lakes), sailing, cycling, snowboarding, skate boarding, swimming. You can do all these sports at a very competent level for your whole life without needing to compete, or anyone asking you if you plan to compete. And indeed the bar for competition is quite high. You need to be a really good swimmer or skier before you compete.

This is different from team sports and racquet sports where there is no point mastering the skills unless you like and want to play the game, and there are all kinds of beer leagues and workplace teams that can accommodate almost any skill level as long as you have a good attitude… Or the very isolated track skills like shot put and javellin and long jump that you’d only master with plans for competition.

So probably most riders take enormous pleasure in being on a horse but show rarely or never. You need to discover what gives you pleasure. Is it cantering on a trail? Learning subtleties of dressage or reining? Mastering obstacles in trail class? Etc.

Remember that competition boils down hundreds of hours of prep into a crucial 5 minutes in the arena, and measures only a slice of your ability. If you like to win and you do win, that’s a tremendous emotional boost! If you like to win and don’t, not so much. If competing makes you physically ill or you don’t have that much invested in winning, it may seem like a poor investment of time and resources.

That said, many if not all sports programs for children are structured around either competition or tests and badges, because many (not all) children seem to respond well to external motivators (they are taught to do so in school). And competition is very motivating for many parents who see it as an objective measure of progress. It also helps develop the corporate identity of the program ,(“team spirit”). And absolutely it is s revenue generator for lesson programs.

OP if you are an adult beginner in a predominantly junior barn, it is likely that competition is stressed more than it would be if the barn was full of adult beginners. Also there will be a graded level of show classes available for children whose parents want to pay, from cute leadline and walk trot classes on up. Even a child that can’t really ride yet can find a class.

I was a self directed self taught kid in an era with no programs, and went along to the local playdays trying everything out on my all round pony, and getting lots of 3rd and 4th place ribbons. I wasn’t very invested in this, and the cost was minimal. There was a strong social component. What I really loved was back country trail riding and galloping fast, especially when you could combine the two :slight_smile:

I returned to riding a decade ago, and I would finally say after years of lessons and effort that I am a decent rider again, but with less bravado. I haven’t shown, there hasn’t yet been a time when that has made sense as something to do. I’m not writing it off for the future. But I find that as an adult, I don’t see the point unless both me and my horse have something to show off, and we aren’t at that stage.

I also feel like my job is deadline and goal driven, and requires constant assessment of others and myself. Maybe if my job was softer I would crave more structure and a graded system in my leisure activities. At this point, though, it feels like it would be overload to be competing in my leisure activities too.

I also think showing is fun for people because it gets them off the property. I have my own trailer now and go out for trail rides, back country or less strenuous :slight_smile: usually with a friend and a picnic. That gives us a sense of new challenges and accomplishments too.

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I showed a bit in hunters as a teen and young adult and it just never held much appeal for me. I’ve been riding for 20+ years now. Dabbled in endurance and dressage lessons and trail riding and now I’m pretty much obsessed with fox hunting.

I like to gallop and jump and see all of the beautiful countryside without feeling the need to school my horses daily year round. It’s exhilarating and an adrenaline rush when those hounds start howling and off you go! I enjoy working with and developing green horses, so I have two OTTBs.

Endurance and competitive trail riding is really fun. At many levels the attitude is that the goal is to finish. “To finish is to win”. The people involved were all really helpful and welcoming and the trails are beautiful.

Fox hunters are typically a very welcoming bunch and there are non-jumping groups if you can canter safely in company in a field. Some hunts have low jumps and are more beginner friendly, might have a walk/trot group. I highly encourage everyone to give it a try! We don’t kill foxes in the US either… very, very rarely. Just chase them “to ground” (they escape down a hole or tunnel) or chase coyotes.

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I have only been riding a few years, and recently tried a schooling show. I never thought I’d want to, but the opportunity came up, it was really close by, and only one other student of my trainer was showing, so I decided it would be worth seeing for myself if I liked showing or not! I did have fun, but I don’t think I’ll ever want to show frequently.

One thing I was prepared for going into this show was that I needed to not care what others would think!
That mental challenge was one aspect of showing that I feel I succeeded in. Riding is such a mental sport, and continuing to challenge myself in staying relaxed (and continuing to use my brain when under stress) is one reason I think one or two shows a year is something I want to keep doing.

I also enjoyed the physical challenge of jumping more at one time than I usually do in my lessons (I’ve resolved to improve my cardio routine!), and the show really revealed the things about my position and riding that I need to prioritize right now in my rides.

All that said, if you don’t have an interest in showing, you shouldn’t worry abut it! For a long time I had no interest in showing, and when I tried it, it was more as a challenge to myself than to compete against others, which I think is another reason I was able to enjoy a fairly mediocre display of my limited talent.
I do think the question whether to compete or not is an interesting aspect of riding. As scribbler said above, there is so much joy in just being with horses, so whether to show or not seems in some ways to be a simple cost-benefit analysis of whether the extra challenge or scratching a competitive itch is worth the additional cost and effort that showing involves, and that calculation is probably different for every rider!

I think I’m the opposite of most people. Not competing pretty much means I’d kind of rather just have the horse as a pet, or just goof off (his back is such that’s not really feasible.) I like RIDING just fine. But it’s like dance and skating (where I did testing rather than competing, but the atmosphere’s similar), if I’m not competing, I lose motivation to work on anything very hard. I definitely don’t do lessons just for the sake of them because I can’t see the point of suffering through them just for their own sake (I don’t enjoy lessons for much of anything, but riding least of all. HATED them, in one instructor’s case enough I’d fake sick to get out of them. I’m sure as heck not going to pay money for them if I’m not going to a show to make it worthwhile.)

I have been riding for 40 years and have never shown in a single show. It’s ok to not want to show. Enjoy your horse and don’t feel pressured. My daughters enjoy being competitive. They like to show. There is no right or wrong answer.

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I’ve been riding off and on since I was eight years old (in the mid 1960s), and driving since 2003. I participated in a fun show put on by my lesson barn when I was eight, and that’s the last time I did anything you could call competing by any stretch of the imagination. When I rode, I liked to trail ride. When I took up driving, I wandered my neighborhood, visited people, and just generally enjoyed myself.

Neither showing or not showing is right or wrong. It’s just a question of what makes each individual happy.

Rebecca

I haven’t competed myself in years. My budget is limited, I don’t own my own horse, and I’d prefer to spend my money on lessons (and hopefully leasing again, once I find a suitable horse). I’m totally okay with that. I’ve known many fine horse people, especially those on very limited budgets, who have never shown.

I understand where you’re coming from, though. I only started riding seriously as an adult and for some reason there seems to be this expectation or idea that showing is a big marker in your development as a rider. It was certainly presented to me that way at the barn I was riding at, at the time. Agreed that handling a horse under a high-pressure situation is a skill, but so is going on a trail ride or structuring a workout session for a horse on your own.

I’m not saying that this is the case at your barn, but it’s also worth noting that at some barns, showing is part of their business model and they may try to get people showing before they’re mentally ready or ready as rider to do so. This isn’t due to nefarious purposes, btw, but most barns today are really operating on a razor-thin profit margin. Make sure this is your decision, and don’t feel bad saying “no.” This is your time, your money, your hobby, and you have a right to make choices about it as you see fit.

When I went to shows as an adult beginner, in adult beginner classes with mixed children and adults, I must say that it wasn’t much fun. The rings were very chaotic and it just wasn’t a great environment socially. I did really enjoy the dressage shows I went to because of the feedback from the judges, regardless of how I placed. And there were more adults around to chat with.

In retrospect, in the hunter-jumper world I would have waited much longer before even doing schooling shows than I did as an adult beginner, and waited until I could have competed in higher level classes, which would have been more interesting and satisfying. Eventually, I just switched to dressage.

It’s also worth remember that when you show, you should show at a level below which you’re competing at home, and feel confident about the skills you’re performing. If you’re not there yet, again, there is no shame in saying “no.” Riding is a lifelong journey of learning. There is no time window in which you have to excel like, oh, I don’t know, gymnastics or the NFL (thank goodness).

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Whatever makes you happy, OP!

After some 40-odd years with horses, I have a foot in both camps.

Showed H/J locally as a kid & again as a mid-30s re-rider.
Mostly unrated, regional, B or the rare A show.
Never a pointhound, although I did quite well as an adult - showing my TB “Back in the day” when there was a Non-TB division. :eek:

Dabbled in Dressage & recently got a mini to drive.

Now I show on the rare occasion:
Annual County Fair - because it is nearby, cheap & has cash payback, corn dogs & root beer floats :cool:
Local fun shows - one is a 4H fundraiser, another a schooling Dressage with “r” judges
When finances permit, ADS driving shows & CT
Placing is the least of my concerns, in all I am in it for the FUN!

I grew up going to at least a few shows every summer. I’d say about 90% of the showing process was incredibly stressful and frightening for me and then 10% was exhilarating–and that was only when it was all over.

As an adult re-rider, I have no interest in showing. I get performance anxiety too. I deal with it constantly at work Monday-Friday, so I try to make sure I don’t schedule my free time with activities that will also make me anxious. Sometimes, I will go to a show to spectate and think, “Oh, that looks really fun.” But then I remember that I would probably not be having any fun at all! I still want to ride and I still want to learn, but I don’t want to be on display and I don’t want to be in competition with others. That’s just me. Frankly, I’m envious of those who show and truly do have fun with it. Maybe someday, I’ll be able to!

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This has to be the most ridiculous statement I have seen in months. Whoever told you that it is harder for an adult beginner than a kid is a flaming freaking moron and should just stop. They are horribly misinformed and should be absolutely disregarded - I hope that it was not your trainer that provided that steaming pile of ignorance.

There a classes specifically for Adult Beginners (as in only completing for 2 years or less). Most shows have classes split by age group as well as riding levels. There are classes where the Ammy riders do not compete against the Open Riders. You can ride the walk/Trot, Trot-A-Pole or Trip-A-Pole classes that at some venues are split by age groups.

If you do not want to compete then just say you do not want to compete - there are many many lifetime riders that never step foot in a ring.

Yours has to be the most ridiculous overreaction, to a rather ambiguous statement, that I’ve seen in a long while. :wink:

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Skydy - probably. I’m going with being on the other side of 40 battling ugly medical issues and being flabbergasted at someone who is 25 claiming to be “too old” ending up in a very low tolerance for “ohh poor me” attitudes.

I’ve know some amazing wonderful riders that are the top of their divisions that started riding in their 50s, The OP is still a baby in our sport.

It comes down to this - if you do not want to show then do not show, its not a requirement to enjoying horses. Just get out and get your pony fix while you can. Enjoy being able to ride while you can. If your barn is geared to people that show then maybe look around at different barns, find one that enjoys other actives.

Do not use your age as an excuse on why you are not doing something that does not have an age limit.

I competed from when I was a kid through adulthood…ridden and driving. No interest in competing now…ride only for fun. Don’t wanna’ compete, DON’T! That was easy. Don’t get;usher into it. Think of riding like learning to play the piano…seems like teachers want their students to play in public…no reason to if you’re learning for your own enjoyment.

Ride for fun, enjoy yourself.

Pssst: yes, it is harder to compete as an adult, vs. a kid…adults know what they look like in britches, they see kids riding better than they ever expect to, they know they can get hurt (bouncing isn’t expected from very firm terra)…

You see the OP as using age as an “excuse”. I didn’t understand the post in that manner.

How “difficult” it is for someone to show horses does not depend upon their age, but their personality. Some kids are terrified of competition, and some are fearless. Same holds for adults. :wink:

Skyday, thats how I read the original post. I guess it could have been read as “is it harder to start competing as an adult than as a kid” (but i do admit to being a major grumpy butt and shaking my cane at anyone that walks across my lawn :winkgrin: )

I do agree that walking into the ring with everyone staring at you can be horribly intimidating or it can be the best adrenaline rush ever, Sometimes both 4 seconds apart :lol:.

We have all walked into the arena going" Oh yeah, gonna be amazing…and then cannot get over the first fence (or may personal best - have the horse stop to poop in the middle of the line).

Or walk in going “mudder trucking rock suckers - this is how I die” just to have the most amazing fluid round ever to happen ever.

Its not for everyone thats for sure.

I’ve felt that way as a child and as an adult. :yes:

OP, it sounds like you’re in a great spot right now - you’re a beginner and you’re presumably getting a ton out of your lessons and being around the barn. Lots of skills to learn and progress to be made every time you ride. And it sounds like you enjoy the program overall.

As you’ve heard here, plenty of folks have a lifelong journey with horses and never/rarely show. Perfectly fine!

Many in the H/J world end up showing at least sometimes, or at schooling shows, because they find that it’s a natural progression of the hobby if you stay with a “traditional” H/J barn. You move into being an intermediate rider, perhaps you want more or different opportunities than lessoning affords, and many H/J programs are based around shows as a primary goal (and business).

I personally stopped being debilitatingly nervous at shows only when I was showing regularly (like 1-2 weekends a month) for a year. It was much nicer and much more fun at that point, and I learned a ton. I would do it again in a heartbeat! That was a very unique year for me, though. After being away for many years and now back catch riding and lessoning occasionally, showing even at schooling shows is hard to get excited about when I know I’ll make myself sick with nerves.

I adored showing as a child through young adult, took an 11 year break from horses, then half-leased a trail horse for 6 months. Discovered I preferred that highly-trained, “show horse ride” so I bought a show bred youngster and trained him like a show horse. 5 years later, we’ve attended a whopping 2 shows, lol. The time and expense of showing just isn’t worth it in my current life. I’d rather spend a weekends worth of time & money riding in a clinic where I’ll receive detailed input on improving my ride, rather than receiving a ribbon for it.

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OP, back in the day there was a certain standard against which most instructors held their students before they were allowed or encouraged to show at the A shows. Times have changed.

The local shows used to be the testing ground for the beginner who was progressing well. Today, with many trainers, it’s a whole 'nother ball game.

You don’t have to participate in the modern model. Take your time and if/when you feel confident and have the urge, go to a local show. See how it goes. If you enjoy it, then spend some time showing local. If/when you feel happy with your progress, then decide if you want to spend what it takes to go to a rated show. If you find at any point that you don’t want to do any of it,then don’t.

I would never have been comfortable as a beginner, to be pushed to show at rated shows. Back in the day you had to earn the privilege. Today’s emphasis on showing before learning is unfortunate.