i want dapples!!!

[equinelibrium]

Last year I would have believed that if a horse has good nutrition and hasn’t dappled before then they never would, but it actually happened to my horse last summer!

My horse had never had dapples until I started him on Glanzen (in the past he was on Platinum Performance and various hoof supplements). His grooming routine stayed exactly the same. If anything, he got groomed more in the before picture because he was being ridden/shown. He also switched barns between these photos but his coat looked the same before I started him on the Glanzen. Literally the only thing that changed was the Glanzen so I’m attributing the dapples to the fatty acids. :yes:

Before

After

Since the after pic he has moved again. He’s still shedding so I’m not sure if he’ll dapple this summer too.

[JB]

[QUOTE=Dee-Vee;8637917]
Interesting. My sooty chestnut mare is covered in black dapples all year round. In fact, she almost has tiger stripes on her back legs…nope, not a dun. Dark mane and tail and often mistaken at a distance for a bay. Ben D’or spot on her flank.

Funny think is, I did not buy her this way. The dapples popped only after I changed her diet. They bloomed when I started feeding rice bran.

Gotta say how much I am enjoying the pictures. Your horses are all beautiful.[/QUOTE]

It would be interesting to see if she carries the nd1 gene. It’s recently been discovered that the Dun gene actually has 3 expressions:

D = dun
nd1 = not dun but has some dun expressions
nd2 = not dun and no dun expressions

nd1 might be what we’ve called sooty, as it’s often been thought that sooty can have the ability to put dun-like markings on horses - wither barring, leg barring, even a face mask.

[csaper58]

[QUOTE=JB;8638721]
It would be interesting to see if she carries the nd1 gene. It’s recently been discovered that the Dun gene actually has 3 expressions:

D = dun
nd1 = not dun but has some dun expressions
nd2 = not dun and no dun expressions

nd1 might be what we’ve called sooty, as it’s often been thought that sooty can have the ability to put dun-like markings on horses - wither barring, leg barring, even a face mask.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm… Could Dun gene have two parts - part A. is lightening of color, and part B. is sooty that causes mask, wither & leg barring?

then D= dun = A.+ B. both present
nd1= not dun, but some expressions = B. is present but not A.
nd2= not dun, neither A. or B. is present

Maybe B. from 1 parent gives minimal sooty/barring/mask, while B. from both parents might give heavy sooty/barring/mask etc

[csaper58]

I also wonder if lack of dapples (if genetics for dapples are present) could be linked to vitamin deficiency. I had a mare that never in the 10 years I had her would dapple. Then one winter she was given wheat bran mash with every meal, that spring …dapples.

[SugarCubes]

Just a qu…my red, red gelding just erupted in dapples a couple of weeks ago - totally out of the blue! This is the guy who had previously only had them once in the 4 years I’ve owned him for like a week…I moved him home this winter and this spring DAPPLES!

[IMG]http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag393/leahyhm/IMG_3343_zpsyqzw98u6.png)

[JB]

[QUOTE=csaper58;8639466]
Hmmm… Could Dun gene have two parts - part A. is lightening of color, and part B. is sooty that causes mask, wither & leg barring?

then D= dun = A.+ B. both present
nd1= not dun, but some expressions = B. is present but not A.
nd2= not dun, neither A. or B. is present

Maybe B. from 1 parent gives minimal sooty/barring/mask, while B. from both parents might give heavy sooty/barring/mask etc[/QUOTE]

To my knowledge, nd1/nd1 horses don’t look any different from nd1/nd2 horses.

We already know DD doesn’t look different from Dd, so it’s not like the cumulative effect of cream.

D/nd2 horses have the dun factors, at the very least the dorsal stripe and some “dilution” of the coat, so we know D alone carries both components.