ICE Raid At Delta Downs

[MHM]

Now, in this case, I have no problem whatsoever with ICE taking this racetrack person, who had actually committed a crime and should be kicked out out of the country.

Navarro Sent To ICE Facility

[Amberley]

To add to this plenty of people who are in the middle of that process have been deported recently, which means they were doing it legally. Again, no-one would have a problem with this if the process was followed and if people weren’t being sent to a prison camp full of dangerous gang members in a random country. People get deported for overstaying visas all the time from every country in the world, it never makes the news when it’s just a normal deportation. It’s been happening in agricultural settings for as long as I can remember and everywhere I’ve ever lived. It’s the way it’s being done by ICE now that’s the issue.

[jvanrens]

@snaffle1987

Did you read my post or just skim it for whatever information you wanted to retain? the audits were done months ago, like before DT even took office which means they were performed by Biden’s administration. therefore a lot of the workplace arrests going on right now are a result of the findings of those audits.

Months ago the TB meet was on. The QH meet is on now. That is what was raided. Unless the track gave them info on who had stall applications, how the heck would they know what stables would be there, let alone who would be working for said stables? I’ve filled in stall application forms before for one track, but they never asked who would be working with the horses. Maybe DD is different, but how could a trainer know exactly who would be traveling with them a month in advance or know who would still be there in June?

[ThreeWishes]

Perhaps the cruelty is the point ? It’s the squirrel to take their eyes and mind off the real issues. Instead we talk about flag poles and useless parades and demonize a subset of people. Sound familiar ? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Don’t trust your eyes and your ears. Believe the rhetoric. Shut down your humanity.

[Texarkana]

@MHM

Now, in this case, I have no problem whatsoever with ICE taking this racetrack person, who had actually committed a crime and should be kicked out out of the country.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/navarro-sent-to-ice-facility/

Thanks for bringing it back to horse racing.

Although I’m not even ok with the Juice Man being sent to a concentration camp. It’s inhumane.

[MHM]

No, but he should be sent back where he came from.

Just like the other people who are actually criminals. You know, like the campaign promise said.

[skydy]

Immigration Crackdown: Knowing Your Legal Rights

[Texarkana]

So if there were any doubts the Delta Downs’ workers’ rights were violated… it sounds like they absolutely were violated in every which way, undocumented or not.

Yet people here are saying, “aw shucks ICE was just doing their job.” No, they were violating the constitution and should be charged with crimes against humanity like SS officers “just doing their jobs” were.

[Aussie_2020]

Agree 100% Their attitudes are infuriating.

[poltroon]

@Annie10

I think with all this talk about fake SSN and employers paying taxes on their employees and the employees not ever getting a return on it etc etc it bears mentioning that that is assuming that the employer isn’t just paying them under the table all along, which in my area seems to the standard method of operation.

And yet oddly, even though those people should be at least as easy to find and detain, swarms of armed officers are not coming to arrest them.

[Annie10]

@roseymare

True but those who are paying those who are here as undocumented under the table are more than likely also paying citizens under the table. People who don’t want to pay “lawfully” don’t pay anyone “lawfully”

While thats a valid statement, I was actually referring more to the earlier posts about that even illegal aliens are paying income taxes and so forth. I’m sure there are some that probably are, and as others have said that immigration situation is a big driver behind a lot of identity, theft, but I’m inclined to think that more of them are just being paid under the table

[Annie10]

@poltroon

@Annie10

I think with all this talk about fake SSN and employers paying taxes on their employees and the employees not ever getting a return on it etc etc it bears mentioning that that is assuming that the employer isn’t just paying them under the table all along, which in my area seems to the standard method of operation.

And yet oddly, even though those people should be at least as easy to find and detain, swarms of armed officers are not coming to arrest them.

To whom are you referring? If it’s the employers that are employing these people I absolutely 100% agree with you. They should be arrested in charged as well for what they’re doing. That’s illegal. But if you’re talking about the workers being paid under the table I’m not sure what makes them any easier locate than anybody else. Sometimes they show up a couple days here and there and work and then they don’t show up and then they show up again so it’s not like they’re just waiting around.

[sparkygrace]

Undocumented workers paid $96.7 BILLION in taxes in 2022.

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

[smoofox]

@Laurierace

Arresting people when they show up for their court ordered asylum hearings tells you they don’t want legal immigration either.

Ditto for arresting people when they show up for their scheduled final interview for citizenship. They had no criminal activities. But after jumping through all the flaming hoops in the long and arduous process to citizenship/naturalization… that must be denied for some farcical reason. Like, you know… a quota…

[MHM]

Another article, this time in USA Today.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2025/06/19/ice-raid-horse-racing-immigration/84273527007/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLBtD9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggo3JBvRGoaVHafLWtF7fSCXBdKB03myc42TBBWzsd2kFUCMlS9_S2mBCAx_aem_PdIlX7TQfJhLyRdMaWa_9Q

[f0rf31t]

Okay, I hope this doesn’t derail the thread to the point it gets shut down b/c there’s been some good discussion happening here but a buddy of mine from high school posted this on social media and it amused me but also reminded me of this thread:

EDIT: And on a serious note - folks, everyone deserves basic rights and human decency.

[Kemosabe]

What ICE is doing is Un-American…arresting people and then shipping them off to a prison in another country without due process is fundamentally the playbook of history’s greatest villains: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Idi Amin, Franco, the Third Reich.

History has its eyes on…us.

[tabula_rashah]

I imagine a lot of what happens with hiring undocumented workers at the track is similar to how to it goes in the landscaping/ horticulture industry (which also relies very heavily on these types of workers). They often have a SSN and a drivers license with a very generic Latino name and when they fill out the tax paperwork, they are careful to not take deductions for the most part. Their info checks out in employee verification. When they get a paycheck, all the regular taxes get taken out. They’ll stay at the job a few weeks or a season and then disappear and pop up at another company with a different name and credentials and the credentials that they had previously used will get recycled to another person. They never file taxes or file for unemployement etc because that will get you noticed.

[Aussie_2020]

I agree, the idea that most are being paid under the table is ludicrous. In construction the companies list who their workers are. If there are 20 people on a job but you only get a list with five names on it… I’m not good at math but even I can figure that out. Someone isn’t being paid properly. So there may be jobs where no one is tracking employees, but those aren’t the big jobs. Not in construction.

[tabula_rashah]

Yep, especially if it is any type of rate job that has a state inspector on site. The jumping through hoops paperwork on stuff like that is insane