IDing a Passier

curious: did Anna B. send the message ?

[QUOTE=alexandra;4670709]
curious: did Anna B. send the message ?[/QUOTE]

Don’t know if she did, but I did, to see how old my old Passier is, since I bought it used.
We will see if they have time to respond, as I imagine I will not be the only one with such questions after reading this thread.:yes:

[QUOTE=pintopiaffe;4670120]
Oops-you are right.

I think it is:

1-Narrow
2-“regular” or “Medium”
3-MW
4-W
5-XW

but on top of that, a #2 might’ve been widened considerably, and with the shortened points and cutback pommel, will fit a LOT of horses… hence my adoration of Ancient Passiers. :yes:[/QUOTE]

“2” actually translates to “xtra wide” :eek:. I emailed them last night and they had already replied when I checked my email before 7 am this morning. Apparently its extra wide, and made in 1984. I adore the ancient ones too! I’ve never found a saddle I liked more.

That is BIZARRE… both of my stupid wides are 5’s.

Maybe that is some different designation then? I always thought it was width.

WELL THEN, that opens up a whole new world of shopping for me, doesn’t it?

That number designation must not be tree width at all then. Couldn’t be if a 2 & a 5 are both XW (or, in my case, XXXXW )

Mine had never been opened up either. So, not widened yet.

HUH! Now I want to know! I always thougth ‘no’ designation meant ‘medium’ or normal… and the numbers were specific widths.

:eek:

[QUOTE=pintopiaffe;4671210]
That is BIZARRE… both of my stupid wides are 5’s.

Maybe that is some different designation then? I always thought it was width.

WELL THEN, that opens up a whole new world of shopping for me, doesn’t it?

That number designation must not be tree width at all then. Couldn’t be if a 2 & a 5 are both XW (or, in my case, XXXXW )

Mine had never been opened up either. So, not widened yet.

HUH! Now I want to know! I always thougth ‘no’ designation meant ‘medium’ or normal… and the numbers were specific widths.

:eek:[/QUOTE]

Or maybe we’re both wrong, and it corresponds to something else entirely? :lol:

These are the specs I got:

“The sadlde with the serial number 202 902 is a PSL dressage in size 17”, havana-brown, x-wide tree of KE 29,5 cm, long billets, flap girth, NO gusseted panel, NO deep seat. The saddlke was built in October 1984."

Just when I thought it was safe to saddleshop “by the numbers” :lol:

No, saddle shopping can NEVER be THAT easy.

It is a level of Hell, I am sure. :yes:

I didn’t get an answer yet.
They must be swamped.:yes:

I still believe they do nothing to hint on the size of the tree on the saddles as their trees can widely be adjusted.

For sure I know that they did not print the seat size in inches into the flap for a long time, but a number. Like Gr.I or Gr.II etc., but do not take me by it

Gr.II should be a 16,5’’ or 17’’ saddle. My old one has Gr.II and the neat number 198000. (It is produced in Summer 1983 …)

And My new saddle has a 16,5’’ seat and a longer flap as both riders are not too fat, but one has a long leg. Horse is short and has a huge should and not soo much whithers, so we fighted for every cm that we could shorten the saddle in length.

P.S. I meant did a Anna B. respond ?

I wonder if it is the type of tree/seat?

My two 18.5" PT VSDs are stamped 18.5 = 5 Both have almost identical seats. Not quite, but darn close.

I’m really quite dismayed by this. :uhoh: Might have to ask Passier how I am supposed to SHOP now, since I’m shopping for PTs which are discontinued and must buy used. (couldn’t afford new even if they were still making them, but… anyway.)

I was sure that if I found a PT with the same seat size and that ‘5’ that I’d at least be starting in the right ballpark to then have it stuffed/widened/adjusted.

Now I’m not so sure! :eek:

Seriously. I have TWO to be backed this spring. Naturally, neither of them is the same shape or size as the two saddles I have. Nor, does it appear, will they be able to share. :sigh: Of course, they also don’t fit nice, cheap alternatives like Wintec. :no: :cry:

I got an answer to my question, my saddle is an 84.
It really is holding very well, you would not believe it is that old, at all.
The old leather was sure first class and with a little care last forever.:slight_smile: