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No idea of the actual sell price.
http://www.justicerealestate.net/properties.php?page=3[/QUOTE]
It sold for $3,014,500 as a foreclosure.
It’s a shame this semi-recently built facility is now being put on the market …
Morningside Training Center - The Plains, Virginia, developed by the late Arthur “Nick” Arundel
111 acres in 3 parcels includes regulation polo field, cross country courses, outdoor ring, indoor arena, 5/8 mile track, 3-acre lake for swimming, stabling for 50 horses in 3 barns, 20 paddocks, main house/office, tenant house, 2 apartments.
I used to rent the 4 story manager’s house on North Wales! Had a Silence of the Lambs basement. We moved out when Prentiss bought it. Just a little farther down Springs road is Canterbury. I knew the farm manager quite well and got to go through the house. Absolutely amazing. The rooms, the paneling, the kitchens, the meat room, the china room. Wow.
Years ago the Santa Gertrudis herd on Canterbury got out and wreaked havoc on the Fauquier Springs Country Club golf course, which is right next door. The club was going to sue for $50/hoofprint, until it was pointed out that the fairway of one hole is actually on Canterbury, and access would be denied. Suit got dropped like a hot potato
The track at Morningside is really tight for working. If you don’t go into the turns a little high and wide and drop back down, you aren’t going to make it through if you are doing more than 2 minute lick
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Years ago the Santa Gertrudis herd on Canterbury got out and wreaked havoc on the Fauquier Springs Country Club golf course, which is right next door. The club was going to sue for $50/hoofprint, until it was pointed out that the fairway of one hole is actually on Canterbury, and access would be denied. Suit got dropped like a hot potato.[/QUOTE]
One of the unique things I’ve read in a while 
Not to mention the ‘its puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again’ reference.
I believe “Wiffletree Farm” (just sold) was once part of the greater North Wales complex too. That was quite a lot of land and stabling sold for cheap(er).
Whiffletree is always for sale. It sits between North Wales and Clovelly. Clovelly was owned by the Winmills for years and Whiffletree was also apart of the property. Mrs. Winmill lived in Whiffletree in her later years. She used lots of carriage parts in her decorating. They also owned Waverly, which is just up Springs road as well. If you can get the book “Gone Away with the Winmills” it is a great read. Written by a daughter of Viola and Bobby, it has alot of great info abot the area.
Clovelly has the oldest Belmont barn in VA. It was 28 stalls, but when it was sold by the estate of Sylvia Harrington, I think they took the 2 stud stalls and made wash racks. I went a many a turn around that shedrow trying to get horses fit for Casanove Pt to Pt when the fields were too bad to ride on
The large building in the stable complex at North Wales with the cathedral ceilings was actually built to show cows in. They used to also keep monkeys on North Wales, over on the Lees Ridge side.
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In regards to Stonerside…
If it is the same facility i am thinking of…its been awhile since i’ve been to saratoga…its all white with an old, old, little white house in the far back corner of the racetrack (right near the metal fencing in the wayyy back of the training barns…you can see a white barn with a smaller training track…its old. All white…if thats the place called Stonerside…i heard through the grape vine that it is now being used by Darley…[/QUOTE]
Darley bought Stonerside in KY some time back.
I recall that being on the market just a few years ago, too: (pdf) 2007 - Clovelly
The large building in the stable complex at North Wales with the cathedral ceilings was actually built to show cows in. They used to also keep monkeys on North Wales, over on the Lees Ridge side.
And an old tale (or is it tail under the circumstances!) regarding the monkeys:
[Walter Percy Chrysler Jr.] raised monkeys on the property for scientific purposes, according to Allen’s research. On one occasion, the monkeys escaped into the countryside, where they ran amuck in barns and hayfields, Allen said.
The mishap led to some good, according to an old story about the event. A notorious alcoholic, unaware of the escape, disbelievingly watched a group of monkeys play in his haystacks and, according to the legend, never took another drink, Allen said.
wow… some of these are amazing.
Below is the first time I’ve seen Michael Dickinson’s Tapeta Farm (brochure) actually listed with a price tag. The brochure doesn’t and hasn’t ever listed the price. However the just listed on MLS entry does:
They flip horse(fields) don’t they? 
Who knew in this economic downturn you’d still see equestrian estates - with a little extra gloss added - being listed for sale at double their last selling pricing after just 5-years of ownership.
2006 sold price: $6,700,000
11/4/11 List Price: $14,900,000
Hey if they can get that kind of return …
While not an equestrian facility for racing - I don’t even see a barn or stall - this is notable if only because of the ownership: Rachel ‘Bunny’ Mellon has listed her Cape Cod (Osterville, MA) estate. The late Paul Mellon bought the property with Bunny (his 2nd wife) and had all the structures built there in the 1940s.
It was recalled in a couple of articles in the 1970’s that he would fly via private jet from Rokeby (Upperville, VA) to swim in the ocean at this estate and then fly to Saratoga to watch his horses run in the afternoon. Unfortunately Paul’s name recent surfaced in the last few days with a slander lawsuit (against his estate’s trustees) filed by the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation.
That aside, Bunny has continued to have the Rokeby’s stables in VA part of the annual Hunt Country Stable tour. The Cape Cod 26-acre waterfront compound is listed for $28.7 million.
Paul Mellon’s poem, “Thoroughbreds”
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That aside, Bunny has continued to have the Rokeby’s stables in VA part of the annual Hunt Country Stable tour. .[/QUOTE]
After hearing Paul Mellon read this poem, I found much more to it - beautiful - put a lump in my throat this morning…
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After hearing Paul Mellon read this poem, I found much more to it - beautiful - put a lump in my throat this morning…
http://jmacneill.tripod.com/poem.html[/QUOTE]
Ah, thanks for finding the entire poem, written by him, which really is lovely.
Below isn’t an estate for sale, rather just an example of the sad turn of events of an estate built/owned by one of the big race owners (and a noted polo player) of the 20th Century - F. Skiddy von Stade. The remaining parts standing in Old Westbury, LI are slated to be razed in the next 30 - 60 days. Ah development isn’t it great 
Sports Illustrated August 5, 1963: “Saratoga Racing Centennial 1863-1963”
F. Skiddy von Stade (left) is past president of the Saratoga Association, and his family has been coming to their 90-year-old home for five generations—the steamboat that once brought patrons up from New York was named the Francis Skiddy. Pete Bostwick, Von Stade’s son-in-law, is a leading steeplechase trainer.
Bing “bird’s eye” view of the former Von Stade estate
(The indoor exercise/riding ring was according to former caretaker only added in the early 1980’s and was not there in the 1960/1970’s)
Here is the estate in absolute ruins in Nov 2011 - the manor still “stands” but not the stables.
It was following the death of von Stade that the property passed William Entenmann and called Timber Bay Horse Farm on 110 acres. It was pitched - for development - for $15M on 40-acres in Feb 2010.
William Entenmann III, who used Jonathan Sheppard as a trainer died in Jan 2011. Timber Bay (the stable) enjoyed a lot of steeplechase success plus had an interest in Artie Schiller and bred 2002 Belmont Stakes winner Sarava.
How sad - hate seeing these places in this condition. Since it says “former” Entemann estate, I wonder if the bank got it, or it could have been left to rot while they argued over the estate. As a real estate broker, have handled foreclosures, including some larger places in Saratoga & near Cooperstown. The banks never take care of them, and they were like that BEFORE the housing crisis.
Impressive - Yaw, Artie Schiller, & Sarava.
Well, the place almost lasted 100 years. I wonder how quickly the dozen or more McMansions will last, and what bright hue they’ll be painted?!?
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Well, the place almost lasted 100 years. I wonder how quickly the dozen or more McMansions will last, and what bright hue they’ll be painted?!?[/QUOTE]
^^^ Agreed! and it’s such a shame…
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How sad - hate seeing these places in this condition. Since it says “former” Entemann estate, I wonder if the bank got it, or it could have been left to rot while they argued over the estate. [/QUOTE]
Ding. Ding. Ding. CVPeg, you win the prize as it was a mix of things:
Per the NYT June 2006 the estate was sold by William Entenmann in 1997:
The other [OW Village approved development] calls for 16 houses on the 40-acre property once home to the Entenmann family, of bakery fame, just north of the Long Island Expressway. That land was bought in 1997 by the Solomon Schechter Day School of Nassau County and High School of Long Island but was resold to a developer.
From another source:
A developer had purchased the estate back in the boom days off the School and filed plans for a subdivision which were approved by the Village.
He then lost the property in foreclosure and it was picked up by another developer who is seeing the project through. It had been for sale (post foreclosure) along with the approved subdivision plans for at least a couple of years.
Additional image of the now uninhabitable mansion in the last couple of months
It’s now under contract (Jan 9, 2012) which hopefully means that someone suitable (not a developer!) purchased the broad training facility. For $2.5M (asking) you get a regulation polo field, cross country courses, outdoor ring, indoor arena, 5/8 mile track, 3-acre lake, stabling for 50 horses in 3 barns, 20 paddocks … plus a main house and tenant houses.
The turns on the track at Morningside/Middleground are really tight. Unless you can seriously steer breezing there is dangerous. Unless they re did it when they brought in the <gasp>3 day people!
Thank you!
Glimmerglass, I’ve been looking for this;:yes: I plan to have it in the service bulletin for my funeral:cool:
Sez Who North has 120 stalls and a stallion facility.
New York’s breeding industry has seen increased investment thanks to the long-awaited arrival of gaming revenue last fall, which prompted the New York Breeding and Development Fund to raise statebred breeders’ awards by 50 percent. Out-of-state breeding operations also have entered the New York market or expanded existing presences there in the last 12 months as breeders line up to take advantage of anticipated slots gains for the New York-bred program.
Schoenborn, the former owner of Contemporary Stallions in Coxsackie, N.Y., will own a 25 percent stake as minority owner in the new Questroyal property at Sez Who North.
Select Sotheby’s International Realty (Saratoga) has listed the Malta, New York 265-acre property for $2.9 million and recently dropped it to $1.95 million.
An aside, in Fauquier Co. the owners of Canterbury after having pitched the property for some time in the mid teens are now looking to sell off 182-acres for $3.64M and sell the manor house for a bit less ,$9,750,000 with 191 acres.
