Incredible incredible horse

[Bronte]

[QUOTE=canyonoak;2027024]
I’m guessing his trot is easy to sit–just so long as the rider can do what Christian Flamm does (hahahahahahah):

manage to keep the schwung, the carrying behind, the rhythm, the balance, the focus.

what makes this horse incredible is precisely that he moves max through all his joints AND stays supple.

Now the canter…that looks like it takes a LOT of following hips.

and Im guessing that he is fine on hacks–or as fine as a 3 year old stallion can be.[/QUOTE]

Abolutely canyonoak!

And for those of you who; do not like this type, or doubt his rideability, collectability, temperament, etc etc etc. With all due respect, you are totally out of touch with modern sporthorse breeding. And that’s fine, but please don’t knock what you clearly do not understand.

Amazing horse, gaits, temperament the full 9 yards!

[Auventera_Two]

@Daydream Believer;2027195

Siegi… Coming from you, I’ll take that as a complement. Enjoy your horses and I’ll enjoy mine but I have every bit the right to express my opinion on this thread as those who are singing nothing but praise and lust for this young horse. Some of us believe that a horse that is only good for one thing is a waste of talent.

Yup! Pretty much.

Lovely animal, but a 3 year old hot stallion being chased by whips in a strange environment doesn’t really tell you much what the gaits will be like at maturity. That goes for any horse - not just this one. In the ‘in hand’ video, it is impossible for the handler to get the horse to stand still. He is tap dancing all over his handler. And that’s just what most babies would do in a strange situation. So its pretty clear that he was hot and wired for sound that day. And that does a lot to increase the expressiveness of gaits.

[Auventera_Two]

@MyReality;2027201

If I have a mare, I would definitely breed her to him.

Really? Hmm.

Even though he is unproven? Even though there are no other offspring to compare to? How do you know his genetic prepotence? Are you certain he will pass on big elastic gaits to his offspring? Not all do you know. Are you certain that he will complement your mare’s weaknesses? How do you know what traits he will throw and which he won’t?

This is exactly how so many babies end up on auction blocks and standing in back yards in knee deep mud with halter scars.

Everybody says “OOoooooooh!! Preeeeeeeeeeeety pony!!! And he has BALLS! Come on mare, get in the trailer!!”

[Bronte]

[QUOTE=Two Simple;2027242]
Yup! Pretty much.

Lovely animal, but a 3 year old hot stallion being chased by whips in a strange environment doesn’t really tell you much what the gaits will be like at maturity. That goes for any horse - not just this one. In the ‘in hand’ video, it is impossible for the handler to get the horse to stand still. He is tap dancing all over his handler. And that’s just what most babies would do in a strange situation. So its pretty clear that he was hot and wired for sound that day. And that does a lot to increase the expressiveness of gaits.[/QUOTE]

Oooops, nearly let my fingers do the talking, but thought twice about it. “If you are going to have it out with someone, make sure someone is home…”

[Mozart]

I think I can safely bet a large amount of money that no offspring of this horse is going to end up in a backyard up to his knees in mud sporting halter scars…
Well, heck I’LL take him if anyone gives this horse to you unbelievers and you don’t want him :lol:

Certainly his gaits may change somewhat as he matures (that happens in humans too, btw… but at the moment he has only a passing acquaintance with gravity.

Yup. I’ll take him :yes:

[canyonoak]

ummm…which video has the horse in-hand, whips, etc?

I only have dial-up, and I clicked on the dial-up of Quaterback.

are some of you watching the Champion/ reserve Champion of the Approval?

[mademoiselle]

Come on people …

Walk, trot, canter and even lengthening , is not going to ruin a horse for later.

It’s better for a horse to work 20 minutes a day with a job than just going crooked with his nose up in the air around for 30 minutes at the walk and trot because he is just a baby.

He is an amazing horse period. I’m sure we would make an upper level eventing horse and probably a Grand Prix jumper. He is balanced, he has an incredible canter.

I don’t see why he would be a bad trail horse. He has actually a very good brain. It’s very hard for a horse to stay focused in an indoor like that and he did his job like a Champ’.

As far as collection, I don’t see why it would be a problem. He is very supple, he is naturally balanced and has no problem going from a medium trot to a working trot, so I wouldn’t worry for his future as a top level dressage horse.

As far as breeding, Give me a break …
I would breed a mare any day to this horse. He has great bloodlines, he has an incredible movement, he is well put togethere and has pretty much everything you’re looking for in a modern sporthorse. I don’t care, if he hasn’t won any blue ribbon or if we don’t know yet if his offsping is Grand Prix level material. I don’t see how you can not improve by breeding to a horse like him.

Two Simple, if everybody follows your logic then the Equine specie is going to die. If we have to wait to see the offspring of a horse before bredding to him then how do you make it work ?

I doubt that breeding to a horse like this is going to produce some horses that you have to sell to auctions or backyard unwanted horses.

I work for 3 breeders and thank god, some people have taken chances on younger stallions to breed their mares. If not we would all be out of business.

He is incredible :yes: . I would love to get to ride a horse like this in my life.

[class]

[QUOTE=Two Simple;2027242]

Lovely animal, but a 3 year old hot stallion being chased by whips in a strange environment doesn’t really tell you much what the gaits will be like at maturity. That goes for any horse - not just this one. In the ‘in hand’ video, it is impossible for the handler to get the horse to stand still. He is tap dancing all over his handler. And that’s just what most babies would do in a strange situation. So its pretty clear that he was hot and wired for sound that day. And that does a lot to increase the expressiveness of gaits.[/QUOTE]

excuse me, are you talking about:

Video Clip of the 2006 Approval Champion, Stedinger x Quattro B

OR

Video Clip of the 2006 Approval Second Reserve Champion, Sandro Hit x Plaisir d’Amour?

because the rest of us are talking about: Video Clip of Quaterback in the Althengstparade

i’m also curious to hear exactly what it is that is preventing this horse from going out on the trail? i don’t see the problem. i think it is a ridiculous criticism though. it is like saying, “yeah, he’s nice, but he wouldn’t pack my 4-year old daughter around, or he would suck pulling a cart, so he’s not an all-arounder.” that is stooping pretty low to find something, anything negative to say about him.

[Tiki]

Two Simple, try looking at the video of Quarterback under saddle. There were no extra men in the ring - certainly not men with whips chasing him. It is an incredible video of a calm, supple, soft, flexible young stallion. Can he be collected with his naturally big gaits??? I say yes, absolutely and without question (well, with the right rider/trainer). Why??? Look at his trot, both working and lengthened. He is so full of softness, loft and suspension that he will surely put more elevation into his trot when he is muscled up and ready and do a lovely, cadenced, gorgeous collected trot. A horse that lengthens without suspension and is flat and just takes big strides without all that softness may be hard to collect. Quaterback?? I doubt it.

[slc2]

It is the horse of a lifetime. Get used to it, LOL!

[siegi_b]

I think there are two factions here - one that appreciates a horse with good conformation and super gaits, and the other one that thinks anything with above average movement is “only good for dressage” and not trail riding and, therefore, must be bad. The problem is that they can’t bring up the RK argument, so they have to resort to assumptive statements regarding a miserable future for said horse.

Give me a break!

[Dalfan]

this is a great moving horse with tons of potential. if you think this is a bad mover with ‘too much knee action’ then i understand a lot of your other comments a lot better. all starting to fit into place now.

With you here. Incredible horse and don’t understand the critisism. He’s ONLY three and shows great gaits AND a super temperment. And just because he has such “lofty” gaits doesn’t mean he would be hard to sit the trot, as long as his back is up and he is through. Probably can jump the moon as well, but who knows! Edited to add; I’m sure this rider is not asking for all the horse has got in those lengthenings.

The second clip is a different horse in the arena and the guys with whips. Obviously, its an inspection/show/competition. Maybe they should just let the horse in the arena and stand there and roll around. How in the world are they supposed to judge the gaits? Haven’t you ever seen a free-jump setup? This is what it looks like to me.

[ClaraLuisa]

Lord-- he looks like a different species from the ones I ride (or CAN ride:-))
He sets a beautiful standard.

[TBKate]

[QUOTE=mademoiselle;2027276]
As far as breeding, Give me a break …
I would breed a mare any day to this horse. He has great bloodlines, he has an incredible movement, he is well put togethere and has pretty much everything you’re looking for in a modern sporthorse. I don’t care, if he hasn’t won any blue ribbon or if we don’t know yet if his offsping is Grand Prix level material. I don’t see how you can not improve by breeding to a horse like him.[/QUOTE]

I’m with Mademoiselle here: Every stallion has to prove himself as a stud somehow, and if I had a mare worth breeding, I’d be volunteering to help with that first foal crop! He is balanced, attentive, and looks to be athletic enough to do anything he puts his mind to. One can only hope that he passes on this willingness and fabulous movement. It’s worth taking a chance to find out!

[witherbee]

Can’t find the clip…

Did they remove the clip? I don’t see it on the list at that site…

[hitchinmygetalong]

@Two Simple;2027055

And if he does all that at THREE, just exactly how long has been working under saddle, and how long will he stay sound?? Or is that why dressage horses commonly receive hock injections as part of normal and customary care?

And yeah, I suppose just about any 3 year old stallion in that kind of an electrifying atmosphere and men chasing him with whips would have his ass on fire too.

Lovely animal though - just wish the warmblood people would quit doing what the quarter horse people do. Get 'em turned out by 3.

Wow. And I thought I was The Clueless Person on the Dressage Forum.

[Brookes]

Absolutely awesome young stallion! I’m drooling here!

I do have a question though. . . when you click on that link and it shows the snow photo . . why does it look like there was a recent massacre in the snow??? Kinda scary lookin’!!! Geez did someone just slaughter a moose there!!

[NoDQhere]

I went back and looked at the video again and I DID find something wrong with this horse. I CAN’T AFFORD HIM :lol:

Seriously though, this is a very nice horse who, IMO, will be capable of doing anything. Most likely, though, because of his movement he will become a dressage horse.

To the folks who think that because he is too good, that that, somehow makes him not good enough…When you get beat in the dressage arena whilst riding those all arounders, please don’t whine

This is what serious sport horse breeders are breeding for :yes:

[tbgurl]

:o Holy crap, that horse moves like that naturally??? And he’s only 3…how much training could he have had?

I’m just blown away by that. I didn’t know a horse COULD move like that without training and/or artificial gadgets.

I’m sure glad I won’t be competing against him.

[Mary_in_Area_1]

Clearly some people are viewing the wrong videoclip; and clearly some people are viewing the videoclip through a very different videoplayer!