see post #38
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It’s been about a million years since I worked on the track – back then blistering and pin-firing was all the rage.
However, I was under the impression those methods have fallen out of favor because they really aren’t that effective. The “theory” back then was that the irritation caused by the blistering formed scar tissue that made the soft tissue stronger when healed. But of course it also makes it less flexible.
So – to those on the track – are these two methods still being used?
For a “bump”? If it’s not bothering the horse why not just leave it be?[/QUOTE]
No that is the theory behind blistering stifles which has some merit. The theory behind topical blisters is you create inflammation which increases the blood flow which speeds healing. Crock of crap, but there you have it. I am sure it is still done but nowhere near as much as it used to be.
See post #21.
You never gave an update so everyone was free to continue on. Well, even if you had given an update, it’s a forum, so people are still free to continue on. :lol:
Regardless, I’m glad you consulted a vet and the treatment is working!
[QUOTE=sm473;5387844]
Based on the posts from the OP, this injury occured last summer(5+ months ago), doesnt involve bone, and is scar tissue,which tells me it is either connective tissue or soft tissue(ie muscle).
Moist warm heat can be applied by using cold water bandages soaked in hot water. if the water is too hot for you to handle without rubber gloves, than it is too hot for the horse. After 30 minutes, massage and gentle stretching can help.
Azium powder (dexamethasone) is a corticosteroid which is typically given orally, I mix it in the feed. Its anti - inflammatory properties may help reduce the size of the bump. If it doesnt help, that may indicate there is no inflammatory process involved at this time.
Just to clarify my earlier post, the one and only horse I have used the Palmolive on was not a horse I owned or trained, it belonged to another trainer who I was helping out. I ended up treating the horse on day two and three of the “blister”, and saw the results.The horses skin did not blister, but was irritated and developed some scurff. And he appeared to have improved dramatically with the blister treatment.
The Palmolive “blister” was recommended to my friend by two vets from different practices at the track. A third vet recommended an internal blister. I have no idea what the vet would inject in this case.
I dont like the idea of blisters. Anything that damages the integrity of the patients skin can open a pathway for infectious agents. I am also concerned about these electo-stimulatory devices. While they do promote rapid healing, I think they diminish the response from nerve endings. I had one used on me twice a week for two months during physical therapy and that was my experience.
I tend prefer the least invasive treatments, and am satisfied with the results I get.[/QUOTE]
In your response regarding the Azium, it was random in that no where did you suggest that you visited or consulted a vet, nor did you suggest that the OP do so. Further, your suggestion was that if it did not work then there was no inflammatory response. Thus, random. As far as the electro stims and other hand helds being used by veterinarians and or outlawed at the tracks, of that I am not aware, perhaps you can show me the ruling by the stewards on all of the tracks in the United States that are ruled by a unified body of stewards which prohibits the practice.
That was a trick question so I will save you time if you were going to bother doing any research. There is no such governing body; would that there were. Perhaps you want to ask me how many illegal activities I am aware of by licensed veterinarians at some racetracks in the United States. But then I would not tell you on this board, you might have to just trust me.
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Ok . Ok. I talked to vet last week and got Surpass.
It is working .
Why are you guys still on this topic.
I got your points over 2 weeks ago and you guys are still wasting time on this . ;)[/QUOTE]
Glad to hear that it is working. Maybe you should at least thank SteeleRdr.
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I am surprised at some of the holier than thou opinions posted on this thread. As if putting a piece of steel in a horses mouth feels good to them. Or placing an ill fitting saddle on a retired thoroughbreds back and having an overwide novice climb aboard. Or perhaps overloading a TB with Bute so it can make it to a race?
OP - I recommend warm , moist heat along with gentle stretching and massage.This will require time and patience. Azium powder may be appropriate in this case, as prescribed by a vet.
If you must blister, I recommend Palmolive dish detergent (Green, like Madge used), apply undiluted for three days, rinse off after the fourth day.[/QUOTE]
Calumber - this is my original post in which I refer to the use of Azium. “Azium powder may be appropriate in this case, as prescribed by a vet”. Not on a whim, not random.
“Ingredients to create a Strong Blister mixture”
Just…don’t do it! :winkgrin:
[QUOTE=sm473;5398753]
Calumber - this is my original post in which I refer to the use of Azium. “Azium powder may be appropriate in this case, as prescribed by a vet”. Not on a whim, not random.[/QUOTE]
If you check in the quote that I reference it merely says that you use it and if it does not work then there was no inflammation. Thus random.
THE END PLEASE
OK … OK… THE THREAD IS DEAD. THE THREAD IS DEAD. WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO CONTINUE . JUST LET IT GO ALREADY. :lol:
Equinoxfox, are you aware that it is okay to discuss things on a bulletin board? Sorry if this bothers you so badly. Maybe you should ask the Moderators to close it down because you just don’t want to be forced to respond. By the way, did you thank SteeleRdr?
