Interesting, well-written piece about animal shelters and HSUS-style sheltering...

Interesting, all around. Our dog and both horses are rescues–the dog rescue was a little uncertain because we do not have a fenced yard (we genuinely don’t need one in our remote setting) and they still let us have him.

I’ve a friend who looked into a horse adoption but the rescue group wanted photos of the horses every three months–forever. Has anyone else seen that condition placed–lifelong requirement to send quarterly photos?!

Another got a horse from a rescue agency that required her to feed alfalfa. He soon broke that rule, tho presumably the agency doesn’t know he broke it. His horse is well fed, well-cared for, but doesn’t need alfalfa…

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Sadly the symptoms are too common…[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes they are.

I had a hell of a time finding a shelter/rescue that would work with me when I eventually adopted our mutt, Tessa. We own our own home, have a fenced in yard, and I’m a long-time pet owner with great references. I’m even a stay-at-home mom, but my son was 4 years old at the time, and a lot of organizations refused to adopt pets out to families with small children.

Don’t get me wrong, I wanted people to be honest with me about how suitable they thought any particular dog would be to live with an active young boy in the house. That’s certainly not every dog’s cup of tea, but to state that no family with small children should be allowed to own pets is completely ridiculous. And, imo, perpetuating that myth can’t possibly be helping with all the “having kids, so Spot and Fluffy have to go!” surrenders.

And I have so many friends who have similiar stories. One single woman was even turned down for working outside the home. :eek:

On the plus side, I’m very pleased with the shelter we adopted Tessa from http://greencountyhumane.org/ . The building was very run down, but it was amazingly clean. Probably the only shelter I’ve ever been in that didn’t smell like a shelter. Dogs were all walked twice a day so there was very little crate soiling. Their rules about adoption were very reasonable, and relatively flexible. Someone from the shelter even called me a few weeks after I brought Tessa home to (very politely) see how things were going, and to ask if I had any questions.

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We walked out of one local rescue after getting the third degree, and adopted our dogs elsewhere. My mother later wanted to volunteer there (she had volunteered there in the past, and has had dogs and cats all her life) and they asked for 3 references. Are you kidding me? I guess they have too many volunteers?[/QUOTE]

Ha, my best friend had some free time and wanted to volunteer at a local shelter. She left 5 messages with the contact listed on the website, sent an email, then finally stopped by in-person to set up a time to meet with the woman. The receptionist told her they didn’t accommodate walk-ins. Seriously? The same rescue turned away another friend looking for an adult house cat after losing her ancient buddy to cancer because she lived on a farm. Well, there is a barn on her 7 acre property, but no livestock. They told her “they don’t place cats with farm people because they tend to want barn cats”. Uhhh…

I am glad I don’t work in animal rescue for a lot of reasons. It’s got to be terribly hard, and I think there’s a level of “thick skin” that rescuers develop that probably influences the way they interact with potential adopters. Nothing like witnessing daily the level of cruelty that exists in the world. That being said, that type of attitude can perpetuate the problem of over-breeding to fill the market demand for pets that certain rescues/shelters can’t or won’t.

Interesting read. We had that same chair poster up

Worked at a ‘no time limit but we’ll put em down if theyre aggressive’ shelter with VERY strict adoption policies…my last straw came when we had a very wonderful pit mix who was slowly becoming kennel aggressive. She was kept in a laundry room behind a chainlink door facing down the hallway with kennels on either side. So ANY time a dog came and went from a run, it walked directly down the hall…right at her.

Family came in, met her out in the dog yard, loved her. Fussed over her. She was a mildmannered doll who quietly accepted attention. They were denied becuase they were planning on leaving her outside during the day while at work.

Few days later, directors came through the kennels…bent over to admire doggy in the kennel as a dog came out of a run behind them. She lunged the door snarling at them and was euthanized that day. Staff was not informed beforehand was was rightfully furious…lost many employees that day.

Do I think a highly aggressive child biting dog aggressive dog needs to occupy a kennel space for 3 years waiting on his dream home with a single guy in the middle of the country and no other dogs while how many thousands of dogs die a day? My gut feeling is no. I don’t know how to quantify life in that way.

What I do know is how ABSURD it is to keep a dog locked in a kennel and then stand on a VERY high soap box about what may or may not be good enough for that dog. You know what that dog would like to be doing right now? Breathing. I fought it for years as an adoption counselor and as their medical director; I can no longer bear the responsibility of what animals ‘deserve’ what homes. It was NO big deal to hear "Eesh they’re kind of weird/poor/trashy, they can’t have Fido he’s too highly adoptable/pretty–but they can have (black lab mix, pit mix, boisterous return). " Even the ‘best’ homes got dumped in pounds/abused/returned…I am ALL for having a little more faith in humanity and getting these animals OUT.

I’ll be sharing this article, thank you.

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The previous owners’, maybe? I know, the odds are good nobody is looking for any given stray, but I have to side with the law there. If you’re looking in a shelter for a lost pet and you don’t see it in the cages, you might not go to the staff and ask if someone called in to say they’re keeping a lost kitten at their house.[/QUOTE]

Our local AC will not even attempt to take info on a found or lost dog. They tell you bring it to them if you found it, or come look in their kennels if you are missing it. They’ve twice put the wrong dog down (one was a poodle they picked up that had gotten out of someone’s yard…they went down there at 6 pm and were told that it was too late for her to pick up her dog and to come back the next day. The next day they euthed her dog, mistaking it for another. The other one was on hold for adoption, and they euthed it anyways.

Our local rescues are pretty good. But mistakes are made. One turned a military guy down that wanted 2 dogs because something seemed “off”. He went to another rescue here, and got two dogs. He got mad and stomped the golden retriever to death, and shattered the other puppy’s leg. Only punishment was to be kicked out of the army.

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Our local rescues are pretty good. But mistakes are made. One turned a military guy down that wanted 2 dogs because something seemed “off”. He went to another rescue here, and got two dogs. He got mad and stomped the golden retriever to death, and shattered the other puppy’s leg. Only punishment was to be kicked out of the army.[/QUOTE]

See, this is a really terrible tragedy, and honestly, was probably avoidable on some level at the “screening” process. But maybe not, too. Unfortunately, for every nutcase that talks a decent game, there are dozens of perfectly honest, caring, and capable homes that get turned down because they have small children/are elderly/work outside the home/live on a farm/don’t have a fence/don’t have a dog door (what??!)/etc.

The ad council recently funded a project that promoted (human) adoption. This is one of the posters:
http://chfs.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/E0CF161E-C364-4043-BF62-DE7D664B5535/0/perfectParent.jpg
I think a lot of that message pertains to pets as well, particularly for the many people out there that approach the commitment as a PROCESS rather than a single decision.

I’ve been a foster for a local rescue for the last 3 years. 30-40 cats and kittens have made my house a temporary residence during that time and all but the three I have left have gone to what I hope is their forever home.

I can honestly say that I’ve become more jaded and cynical than I ever thought possible. I don’t want to be one of the problems, but after you’ve had a foster cat in your home for 1 or 2 years and love them as much as you do your own, it does tend to make you a little over protective of them.

We’ve had cats that we adopted out found at a nearby shelter on death row - luckily they scanned for a microchip and were able to contact us - some returned to us scared to death of any and everything that moved, and worse off than they were when in foster care.

We do screen potential adopters, and I think we do a good job at it, but I guess it’s like everything else - the bad stories tend to stick in our minds more than the good.

I often think of all the ones that have been adopted and wonder how they are. I got an email from someone yesterday that had adopted one of my foster kittens two years ago, with pictures and a video of him as a grown up and it made my day. Heck, it made my week! Sometimes it’s good to have that reminder of why we do what we do :slight_smile:

Anyway, I think I’m rambling now, so I’ll shut up. I do agree that some rules are just over the top and in no one’s best interest. Some of the stories here just make me stop and shake my head in disbelief.

Stephanie

To me, shelters, rescues, and the HSUS are all separate entities. I won’t even get started with HSUS.

It seems to me that the article is a little “off.” I can’t say I have ever heard a County or City shelter denying the adoption of an animal because the cat would be indoors/outdoors, etc. Most County or City [euthanizing] shelters adopt if you hand them their measly adoption fee, fill out some paperwork (which doesn’t include any history about previous or current pets, etc.,) and take possession of the animal.

Now the rescue groups are a different beast altogether. Most of the well-run and legitimate ones can afford to be choosy as to who adopts their animals because their animals aren’t in any danger of going anywhere or being euthanized. They’re considered “safe” with the hopes of being adopted into a home of their own.

I think if you don’t like the policies of one animal rescue group, just use another one. For example, there was a Doberman rescue that required persons only use a choke chain on any of their adoptees because “one adoptee came in abused from a prong collar so much that he had a single hole in his neck, and because the hole was almost perfectly round, it HAD to be a prong collar.” You’d think they would use some common sense and say, “hmm - a single hole from a prong collar with many prongs applying equal pressure around the dog’s neck? Maybe the wound was caused by something else?” When I had asked them about using a Martingale or how about actually training the dog and just use a flat buckle collar? They said, “that’s not our policy!”

However, if a rescue is going to have ridiculous requirements like “no hardwood floors,” then they shouldn’t be crying and complaining that they just don’t have any room and need to find homes for their animals because they’re limited on funds from caring for all of them.

I can tell you two horror stories of adoptions with rescues:

  1. Several years ago, I volunteered for an animal rescue. An adopter came forward to adopt an [already spayed, vaccinated, and starting housetraining] puppy. Her Veterinary records checked out. Her home check was okay. She adopted the puppy. Two weeks later, the woman called the Director absolutely FURIOUS saying the dog would NOT housetrain and she would be dumping the puppy unless someone came and got it. When the puppy was picked up, it SCREAMED anytime someone would touch it or anytime someone would speak in a stern or loud voice. The puppy was also underweight to the extent that it didn’t look like she had been fed…at all. She would cower down and urinate all over herself and start shaking. She had two wounds on her thighs that could have been from being burned. After taking the pup to the Vet to have it checked out (and no major medical issues,) the Director called the adopter’s Veterinarian and complained. The Veterinarian she spoke with (not the receptionist) asked, “well what about her nine other dogs?” What 9 other dogs? At her home at (address.) What home at (address?) The address we were given was her sister-in-law’s home. Her real address had 9 dogs chained outside. The receptionist that had given her a good review and said “no other dogs” said, “oh you didn’t ask about the other dogs.” Huh?

  2. Just last year around Atlanta, the rescue with whom we volunteer adopted out an older pup to a Police Officer. In the adoption contract it says dog cannot be chained or left outside alone on a runner, etc. Director receives a call from the shelter stating they scanned a chip on a dog, and their rescue came up as the contact. They went and picked up the dog, and it was sort of skinny. AC said the dog was found dragging a stake and chain down the road. They guessed he had gotten free from being chained in the guy’s yard.

Even the best screening doesn’t work too well.

I can say that in my region, it can be very difficult to adopt from county-run shelters. Save for the inner-city, animal control shelter, adopting a cat that you intend to allow outdoors is pretty impossible unless it’s one of those “adopt a feral cat” programs. Several surrounding county shelters have a 100%, no exceptions made policy that requires a fenced yard for a dog.

And once again, as with a lot of things, the media LOVES to cover animal abuse stories. No one wants to hear a dozen stories about the pet that got adopted from animal control and went to a loving family, lived a happy and fulfilling life/etc. They want to hear about the hoarder that duped the shelter into letting her have another dog so that they can lament the shelter’s under-funding/short staff/incompetence (in all fairness, it would have been pretty simple to check real property records to confirm that the house in the above story did not belong to the adopter… in my state, those records are available for free online). They want to hear about the police officer that thinks he’s above the law, and the dog that paid the price for his callous attitude. Just like they want to hear about the pit bull that mauls a child while he plays jump rope. The other stuff just isn’t sensational enough.

Think about how many people you know personally who are the proud owners of happy, well-adjusted animals. Now think about how many people you’d even recognize as “friends of friends” that abuse their animals. Not just those who have a different standard of care, but those who truly abuse their animals. Would you honestly condemn all the happy critters in the first scenario to short lives in cages just to protect them from the possibility of ending up with one of the bad apples? To me, that just doesn’t make any sense…

Our local dog/cat rescue is like this, the list is unreal. No animals to be kept outside for any amount of time, all memebers of the family (human and animal) must come meet the animal twice, in-home checks, references, the whole shebang. BUT, they do not staff the phones - you must call and leave a message and they’ll call you back. They have insane visiting hours, and again, you must have called and made an appointment ahead of time. Yet they’re all over doing fundraising and taking the adoptables around to be seen. ???

I’m all for screening, wouldn’t want to see a hoarder or someone unsuitable with an animal, but geez. Vet reference, home check, permission to own pets from a landlord honestly ought to cover it.