That is true, and possible. I suppose I will find out in the very near future, lol. The flies are so bad around his eyes you’d think he’d prefer the mask over that but, can’t explain everything sometimes.
If they’ve ever been ear twitched in the past, the fly masks that have “ears” can turn in to a big argument. I can’t blame them one bit, but it doesn’t make life easy.
I have run into several lesson horses that are never happy when I touched their ears.
My BOT poll cap helped several of them. Then I got my Fenwick Face Mask with Ears which helps even more. Since I ride these horses just once a week it might take them several weeks before they decide I am OK with their ears.
It is SO NICE when a previous giraffe turns into a real horse when I groom their ears, and these horses end up ENJOYING me cleaning out all the gunk in their ears. They keep their heads down, and they shift the angle of their head so I can easily get to the gunkiest part of their ears and clean it out without problems.
I have cured head shyness with several horses using these products, with a lot of patience, of course. Pretty good since I only handle them once a week AND they deal with other people trying to clean their ears, usually unsuccessfully.
He’s not head shy and I handle his ears daily, wherever he came from while being neglected he does not seem to be abused or roughly handled. More so a lack of handling if I had to guess?
If he was Amish, he may not have worn one, and if he were a show horse, he may not have spent a lot of time outside in bugs so he might not have worn one.
Or he might just not think fly masks are cool. Hard to tell!
So I finally heard from from ASHBA about his dna test.
Let me formerly introduce “Believe Me You” a near seven year old registered Saddlebred gelding. I reached out to his recorded owner but it’s been too soon to hear back yet.
Here’s his pedigree for anyone that might be familiar, as I am not.
That’s fantastic!
I’m sure they will sign the papers over to you!
So nice to know where he came from.
WOW! That is one well bred find! I’m no expert, more peripheral Saddlebred follower, but I see a lot of big (enough that I recognize them) names in there. Here are his parents’ individual pedigrees and if you click on names you can find more info about each horse. Look for and i (info)or pic icon next to an individual’s name when you click on them and some will have show results, etc.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mountainviews+heir+to+fortune
Holy Supreme Sultan Batman. That is a LOT of Supreme Sultan in those bloodlines.
He is obviously a fantastic horse, I also noticed him appearing frequently in the pedigree. This is good? I had a line bred QH once who was the best horse ever. Not that this is the same. I speak with his original breeder tomorrow, hopefully with some more information.
Are you familiar with Saddlebred Rescue in NJ? They are one of the best rescues around and (no surprise) are awash in good information about rescued Saddlebreds. You might want to strike up a chat with Nealia (the gal who founded and operates the rescue) for any questions you might have.
He will be a lovely horse for you and blessings on you for seeing his potential and giving him a home for good.
Back in the day when I kept my western horse in an ASB barn because of far superior care, circa 1980-86 The Sultans were the THE hot horses. That BO was partners in a son of Sultans Santana. They were worth every bit of the hype. The mares the BO bred to that SS son popped out cookie cutter babies with ‘the look” from the time they stood and nursed.
Your rescue looks just like them, that explains to me why he really caught my eye.
Don’t recall any specifics regarding bad temperament or training issues in general.
Supreme Sultan basically set the “type” of Saddlebreds. His get were easy to work with, pretty and have a lot of heart. There’s a statue of him in front of the ASB museum - https://www.artbycrane.com/americansaddlebredhorses/supremesultan.html#:~:text=Supreme%20Sultan’s%20Character%20and%20Supremacy&text="%20He%20was%20like%20a%20human,d%20all%20try%20for%20you.
This was said about him:
He was like a human - he had more guts and courage than any horse I’ve ever seen. He was a show horse the minute he was born. His colts were nice working horses. They’d all try for you. They were also finer and prettier than the average Saddlebred at the time.
Sultan’s Santana was the first saddlebred to sell for a million dollars, one of his sons, featured in your pedigree. Supreme Heir sired a number of champions in all sorts of divisions.
Gypsy’s Santana is ranked #5 for leading living sires ranked by winning get in all classes.
With this pedigree, now that I’m a bit more well versed in them, I would expect a quality horse with a high neck carriage, lots of knee/hock action, but an amateur-friendly temperament. Really nice find!
I love Heir to Fortune, but then I love Kourageous Kalu, and not everyone does.
Thats an awesome dressage horse that you may have. Supreme Heir was, in my opinion, not pretty headed, and he threw that. However, Heir to Fortune is a beautiful horse.
Your horse is going to be good thinking, and take a nice step under himself. I had a really fun Gypsy Santana horse who was an awesome dressage horse for his owner down in VA.
I’d love to see some video of him moving. You’ve found yourself a wonderful horse!
Such a young horse to have been through so much already. I’m glad he’s found a safe landing! Enjoy your beautiful boy.
Wow, thank you all for the awesome information! I love reading the historical articles, and while I’d like to pride myself on my eye I am fairly surprised he’s more “worthy” than I expected. I haven’t called his breeder yet, I told a little mini trip to the beach and want to be able to take the time to talk to her. While it would be pretty cool to have his papers transferred into my name, I’m mostly interested in finding out about his history. Who knows, maybe some foal pictures?
@ASB_Stars it’s funny you mention dressage, before I knew if he was even a full Saddlebred I did searches on Saddlebreds in dressage because just watching him in the pasture I feel like he has a pretty great walk and trot. His canter? … needs work. I’m not a dressage rider persay or even particularly interested in showing but maybe one day I’ll change my mind. At any rate, it would be beneficial to school for sure.
It doesn’t take a whole lot to get him going, I’ll see if I can’t get a decent video of him moving out.
There are two Saddlebreds entered in the Tevis Cup Ride so far this year. We have two half saddlebreds that are really delights to ride.
I finally spoke to Nancy. Apparently she donated him for free to a man some years ago who planned to use him as a mounted search and rescue horse. It doesn’t sound like he was broke to ride because she said he sent her videos of him being ridden. Also, his name was “Cheeto”, which I kinda dig, lol. He did not have any sort of lameness injuries just basically he didn’t make the Saddlebred show horse cut. But he does have an enlarged fetlock now and has been lame on it as of today, I am in the works of setting a vet appointment. She’s very happy I have him now and will be sending his papers but mostly I’m just glad to have found out some information.
Also, she informed me of a bay mare, also registered Saddlebred, that needs a new home located in Brunswick, GA. I’m in the middle of finding out more details for those that may be interested in a project.
Wow! His glow up didn’t take long!
He’s gorgeous! So glad you got in contact with previous owner and now know part of his story.
Jingles for good vet news on the fetlock.