Some people say feed through joint supplements are worthless…especially powders Vs. liquids…so is Platinum Performance CJ really worth the ultra high price tag? and does it truely make that big a difference as opposed to injectables like Adaquan/Legend
PP CJ made a huge difference in the way my mare was moving, and I think had something to do with the absence of any change on her latest x-rays, done 2 years after the first set that showed some arthritic changes. If you can afford it then by all means I highly recommend it, unfortunately I can’t afford it right now so I went back to regular PP and am trying SmartFlex Repair. When I can afford it again my mare will be back on the CJ.
I’ve been wondering this as well. I’ve been trying to decide if I should put my mildly arthritic QH gelding on this supplement, but the cost is so steep. It’s actually cheaper to feed Smartpak’s version of PP and use Adequan (ordered from smartpak). But I’m looking forward to hearing what others have to say. 
I tried to put my older horse that can use a bit of joint support on it, but he turned up his nose (seriously had a meltdown about it, actually, stomping his feet and pinning his ears and just beside himself about this yuk in his feed pan!). No amount of masking worked on him, so I gave it to my other, less finicky, young horse with some arthritis in his hocks. Only just started, so will have to see how it goes. But two of my friends use it and said it did wonders for their horses, and even with the high cost, it looked like I could get rid of some of the other things I was feeding, so the price wasn’t too bad.
My SO, however, made the mistake of asking how much the bucket cost. I think he regrets that as he usually is better off not knowing, especially when you feed a cup of the stuff a day!
Do get samples, if you can, unless you are certain your horse will eat anything. Feeding such a large amount (1/2 c 2x daily), for someone like me that doesn’t really even feed grain, it was terribly hard to mask.
I think I should really be named horsepoor II. We have 6 horses on it mainly as a preventative. My older FEI horse is on P.P. CJ. He is sound, but I had heard such great things about P.P. that I decided why not try it. He only gets 1 serving 1 time per day. He has responded positively to the CJ, so I guess I will be forever in the poorhouse now!
My old farrier who hadn’t seen him for awhile is back and started shoeing for us again. He said, I don’t know what you’re doing with him, but whatever it is, please keep doing it! You see, this horse used to be a bit challenging at times with getting his hind feet done, unless he was held “just right” and low. He would snatch his foot away if it wasn’t held perfectly. This last shoeing with my old farrier went 100% perfect, which was unusual. No bobbles. No snatching of the foot away. He was completely agreeable on both hind feet. Bing! We have a weiner!
I asked the P.P. rep about the difference between CJ and regular P.P. She said it has all sorts of anti inflams, and she rattled off the list. It is more parfumey than the regular P.P., and yes Mr. Picky was not so thrilled at first. He never completely said no and would eat it within a few hours. I wet or soak alf pellets and rb pellets, so the powder gets mixed in well. None of my other horses on the CJ have even wrinkled their nostrils up at it. I did at first, but I think the inside of my nose is now callused by the aroma.
IME, yes…absolutely worth the money.
My gelding has been on it 2 years. He is older with arthritic hocks. The difference was noticeable when I put him on it. It is also the only joint supplement (oral) that my vet will recommend, and these are some of the top lameness vets here. They feel strongly about the ingredients and the research. The CJ also has ASU which has done very well in trials.
Once we started the CJ we noticed we were able to “extend” the length of time between hock injections from 6 months to 9 months. I think the biggest proof for me was when we ran out of it. My horse was off of it for over a week and the difference was pretty profound. Stiff, crabby and just not right. I was so anxious to get him back on it.
Try a bucket and see if it helps. It is also loaded with other nutrients so many times you can cut out multiple supplements you are using and just use the Platinum. Their customer service is excellent too. We love the stuff!
How much are you feeding? I spoke to PP and they recommended 2 heaping scoops a day which ends up to be over $4/day. That is pretty steep!
My horse is a normal WB size, not too huge, not too small.
My gelding is 1100 lbs and I feed 1 scoop two times per day. Not heaping - just a scoop twice a day.
If my horse would eat it, he’d be getting 1 scoop twice a day, and that is a cup worth…too much to hide when he doesn’t get grain. I’m selling the remainder of my bucket to a friend that uses it. Really wanted to try it on this one horse, but just not worth the fight.
I’m reading this thread with great interest!
My horse just had surgery to remove a bone chip from his elbow. The surgeons and his vet recommended the PP CJ or Cosequin ASU (I’ve dismissed the Cosequin ASU after my internet “research” provided some rather discouraging results with the product). I currently have him on Smartflex Repair and have added an ASU supplement, 1,000 mg/day (intended for people from Amazon) as his vet really thinks the ASU is the most instrumental ingredient for joint health.
I put him on Smartflex Repair after a previous injury to his glute muscles and have been happy with the supplement and believe I have seen a difference in his amount of stiffness. However, now that his elbow has had an injury I am definitely interested to hear other’s experiences with PP CJ. I am also very interested to hear if anyone has added ASU minus the PP CJ to see if that makes a difference on its own? Added ASU in combo with anything?
Thank you for posting about this and I look forward to this thread!
If this helps, the one FEI horse on it weighs 1,455. Only 1 scoop cj daily. Another one 1,000 gets 1 scoop cj, 1 scoop osteon. Big difference in both.
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If this helps, the one FEI horse on it weighs 1,455. Only 1 scoop cj daily. Another one 1,000 gets 1 scoop cj, 1 scoop osteon. Big difference in both.[/QUOTE]
Wait, I’m confused - they get a 1/2 dose?
Yes. The dose is not always 2 scoops per day. Depends on horse and situation. A 3rd was on 2 scoops cj 2 scoops osteon because of injury for 1-2 mos. Eventually down to 1 scoop each. Now neither. Horse is fine progressing recovered.
this product is amazing…besides the joint support the platinum wellness ingredients do so much as well and they work even better together. depending on the situation and the horse’s needs you can go up or down with the dosing. I give my horse an extra scoop at shows, after really hard training sessions etc. i can’t say enough about this company and all of their products. i encourage you to call and speak with one of their representatives. they back up what they say…they’ll get you whatever info you want.
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How much are you feeding? I spoke to PP and they recommended 2 heaping scoops a day which ends up to be over $4/day. That is pretty steep!
My horse is a normal WB size, not too huge, not too small.[/QUOTE]
Below is the rec’s on their website: Maybe that was recommended for more intense work?
Recommended Use: Administer 1 level scoop (66g) twice daily.
Arabian Show Horses 1 scoop twice daily.
Barrel horses 2-3 scoops twice daily while on race circuit. 6 scoops 4 hours before an event.
Breeding stallions 1-2 scoops twice daily.
Brood mares 1-2 scoops twice daily.
Dressage horses 1 scoop twice daily during light training and 2 scoops twice daily during heavy training.
Endurance horses 1-2 scoops twice daily for training. Give free choice at vet stops during races.
Hunters 1-2 scoops per day.
Jumpers 2-3 scoops twice daily while in competition.
Miniature Horses 1/4 scoop twice daily.
Peruvian Paso 2 scoops twice daily during training and showing.
Pleasure horses 1 scoop twice daily.
Polo horses 1 scoop twice daily when training and 2 scoops before and after each match.
Ponies 1/2 scoop twice daily.
Racehorses 1-3 scoops twice daily during training and racing.
Reining & Cutting 1 scoop twice daily.
Senior horses 1 scoop twice daily.
Young horses 1 scoop daily.
Endurance horses 1-2 scoops twice daily for training. Give free choice at vet stops during races.
Wow, you found that on their website? Clearly they don’t know what they’re talking about. PP CJ contains MSM which is a prohibited substance in US Endurance per our governing body, the AERC.
So if an Endurance rider wants to use any PP, it has to be the basic formula without MSM (and to give them the benefit of doubt, maybe that’s what this list is referring to…)
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Wow, you found that on their website? Clearly they don’t know what they’re talking about. PP CJ contains MSM which is a prohibited substance in US Endurance per our governing body, the AERC.
So if an Endurance rider wants to use any PP, it has to be the basic formula without MSM (and to give them the benefit of doubt, maybe that’s what this list is referring to…)[/QUOTE]
You’re right - that is actually from the “regular” PP
So, MSM is prohibited in endurance? Hmm, learn something new everyday… Just curious, but do you know the reasoning behind that?
Happy, Can you post a link to the Amazon ASU product you buy? My guy is on Smartflex Repair and I’d love to add an ASU supplement.
So, MSM is prohibited in endurance? Hmm, learn something new everyday…
Pretty much nothing is allowed in Endurance 
Not even arnica! Okay, electrolytes and probiotics are fine… and a few other things: http://www.aerc.org/DrugRuleAppendices.pdf
The idea behind this strictness is to rule out anyone masking any problems and/or weaknesses their horse may have and pushing it too much with that underlying issue. In other words, if your horse is not healthy and conditioned enough to do 50 miles or more without chemical and herbal support, don’t compete (at that point.) That includes “creaky” joints.
That’s it in a nutshell…
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Pretty much nothing is allowed in Endurance Not even arnica! Okay, electrolytes and probiotics are fine… and a few other things: http://www.aerc.org/DrugRuleAppendices.pdf
The idea behind this strictness is to rule out anyone masking any problems and/or weaknesses their horse may have and pushing it too much with that underlying issue. In other words, if your horse is not healthy and conditioned enough to do 50 miles or more without chemical and herbal support, don’t compete (at that point.) That includes “creaky” joints.
That’s it in a nutshell…[/QUOTE]
Well, it peaked my curiosity and I had to go look at their list of forbidden. Some of the items on there still puzzle me a bit, but I think maybe they’re on there because they could mask other substances perhaps. Never have done endurance (obviously) but always thought it would be fun.
Ok - sorry to take off topic.
