Ding ding ding! Well said.
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Yes, he’s an experienced and talented rider with quality horses.
As for California critics, a few years ago, during his time in southern California,
he was looking for a facility for his training business, and he contacted the owner of an upscale private farm in San Diego. This farm is very private, and the owner was not advertising that space was available. Somehow he was referred to the owner, and they spoke, and he was very interested in moving to the farm. The barn owner had top USEF/FEI horses of an other discipline, but knew that Karl was a BNT in h/j with solid financial backing, so the BO took his inquiry seriously, and held space for him.
Time passed, and the BO hadn’t heard back from him, so phone calls were made to follow up.
Not one phone call was returned, and the BO never heard from him again.
The lack of respect to return a call following up on his inquiry didn’t sit well with the BO to say the least, nor people who were aware of what happened.
Perhaps that wasn’t business as usual for him, but in some circles, that’s what is remembered about him.
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Still not the point. Karl would not be there without family money. McLain and Kent and Laura have the skills and work ethic and past successes to garner the support of people with money. Karl? Not so much.
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You aren’t reading for comprehension, although you at least recognize that they all need finiancial support. Without that financial support, none of them would have top international horses to ride. You are disagreeing with me on a point that has nothing to do with what I was talking about, which is:
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Beautifully stated, thank you for layering in those key details.
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So the BO held space without a contract, just a verbal agreement? Poor business practice doesn’t equate to anything other than a life lesson. Sad for the very private BO but still . . . .
I actually disagree. I held space for a new neighbor to bring her horses here until she built a barn. The horses never showed up. After several calls, I finally reached the husband who told me they decided to leave the horses w the trainer. Like the aforementioned barn owner, I am private and did not seek them out. Nor did I really want them-was just trying to do a good turn for a new neighbor.
I have a boarding contract…which I would have had them sign when horses arrived.
Karl sought them out …then radio silence. Contract or not, that is not how you treat people.
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Amen. The word is inconsiderate, if anyone is not clear.
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I don’t disagree with you. I’m just pointing out modern practices. People don’t reply to text messages (from work), HR people don’t let interviewees know who they picked or not, the list goes on. Karl is just a creature of our times.
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Agreed…and I think they should be ashamed of themselves, too!
Especially HR people.
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Ugh, as a current job seeker, I hate this. If you actually interviewed me, just tell me if you don’t want me already!
And OMG don’t have references fill out a survey as the only input they have. Talk to them, already!
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the horses he can buy…. is my guess. He has endless means and they have to get buyers. Again just speculation. Karl has some super rides.
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what do you find cringe about it? I really enjoy those clips and ride analysis he does.
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Wow great thought!
Do you think safe sport could come in to play? I saw Jay duke removed his post. There were some USEF officials I thought where out of line.
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It seems you are making a point that doesn’t have a point. If something costs money, you have to have the money to do it, or buy it. It costs what it costs. For everyone. No one is doing it without money.
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Mia Bagnato
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You finally got it: none of them would be where they are without someone else’s money. Karl wouldn’t be where he is without family money, McLain wouldn’t be where he is without sponsor money. That was the point of my post that you’ve been arguing against:
Glad we can agree and can put this to rest!
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Oh I understood what you were belaboring. It’s just a silly point to belabor. My point is, Karl bought his way in. If he had to do it the hard way, you know, building a business, managing customers, winning enough to keep the sponsors coming in? Not so much. McLain has layers of customers, sponsors, and investors. Karl has one. McLain can lose a sponsor, a customer, an investor. Karl can’t.
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Her point is one person has to act like they have class. They can’t be a bully, a weirdo, etc.
The other person can do whatever they darn well please.
They both need money. But one has to act “normal” in order to retain it.
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