Kyra Kyrklund next project : Lusitano Stallion PSL Rico

[dutchmike]

I am not aware of any Portuguese breeder that breeds for “bling” gaits. If those breeders are now emerging to cater to the marketplace for dressage competition horses, then I’m out of tune with the times…very possible. I was aware of some APSL controversies (er…discussions) on what the breed goals should be.

I beg to differ. Then again I only lived in Portugal for 26 years so what do I know. Rex Henry bred a horse called Xerxes or Xer one of the two as it is a while ago my memory is not what it used to be with names, anyway both those horses where from the Andrade lines if I remember correctly out of Martini. I rode this particular horse in Golega for the modelo e andamentos and he won that year and I think he won the overall champion horse of that year aswell in 1984/85 or something.
Guilherme Borba had some mares covered by this stallion as everyone was crazy about his suspension.The horse got sold to Germany after a short time. Also you are saying only some new breeders are breeding for a more foreward moving Lusitano and again I have to disagree. Since then Oliveira Sousa& Irmaos has bred some nice forward moving and with suspension Lusitanos like Hostil who belonged to me before I sold him to a lady in the UK ofcourse I cannot let this go without mentioning Dr Ferraz da Costa and others.

I also like to add that most (not all)modern bullfighting horses since the 1980 are not pure Lusitano’s used by Joao Moura, Joaquim Bastinhas (he would love to have another quarterhorse like the one he had 20 years ago and ofcourse the Great late Mestre Baptista or even Manuel Jorge all there best horses where crossed with something else

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The future of dressage

Hello to all, for me Rico is the best horse that ever seen in my short life, and I have heard his sons are above average, I hope that Kyra has the greatest successes.
By curiosity I found the child in his first competition, is small but seems to be a Lusitano well above average. Thus it appears that farmers who are mainly of Lusitanian must be very careful!
see: http://www.santoandrelusitanos.com/v1/html/quadra/cavalos.asp

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I love the bullfight! I think it’s fabulous. I want to go have a riding vacation in Portugal and see lots of bullfights! I don’t see any blood on Merlin, and I don’t see that he is abused. He obviously enjoys his work;or he would have been canned from the job (or injured by the bull) if he weren’t up to the task. The horse would never have made it to the ring if he weren’t up to it.

It’s NOT remotely dressage, so don’t try to compare.

I don’t condone animal abuse. But, let’s not be condescending; as there is extensive, abusive so-called dressage riding going on (mostly due to ignorance) even among the very top competitors. Beginner riders are abusive to the horse, unintentionally, aren’t they? And so are even international caliber dressage riders, unintentionally.

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I’m from Portugal and I work at the stud farm were Rico was trained since his 3 years old. It’s really awsome to see him work. Now that he is in England I can see his sun Zefiro working and it’s a fantastic horse too. we are selling frozen semen for other countries, from Rico and his father Hostil.

Visit this link and watch the movies http://www.montevelho.pt/

[J_Lav]

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Just to point out those name for people to look at : Rafael Soto and his two great andalusians stallions Evento and Invasor.
Ignacio Ramblas and Oleaje another andalusian stallion. And Juan Antonio Jiminez and Guizo, a great Lusitano stallion.
Also note that John Whitaker have been the leader in England in EVENTING with Novilhero another Lusitano.

Late into this thread and didn’t really want to get involved but feel obliged to point out that John Whitaker has never been an Eventer!!!

He is a Show Jumper and Novilhero was a good horse but not a great horse. I believe he was returned to Portugal as he was not going to be scopey enough for the really top level and he did not attract much support as a stallion at stud in the UK.

[dutchmike]

Late into this thread and didn’t really want to get involved but feel obliged to point out that John Whitaker has never been an Eventer!!!

Novilheiro evented before he went to John

[J_Lav]

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Novilheiro evented before he went to John ;)[/QUOTE]

In the UK? No trace of him on BE website.

[dutchmike]

yes in the UK. Google it maybe you will find something.

[J_Lav]

[QUOTE=dutchmike;4077497]
yes in the UK. Google it maybe you will find something.[/QUOTE]

If he competed affiliated he would be on the British Eventing website.Their records go back along way but there’s no trace. Have tried different spellings but still came up with a blank.

Could he have had a different name?

[dutchmike]

No idea he evented with Rachel Bayliss and has sired some eventing offspring

[J_Lav]

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No idea he evented with Rachel Bayliss and has sired some eventing offspring[/QUOTE]

Ahhh…interesting. I have found one reference to him eventing in an article by his owner J P Giacomini, which states Rachel competed him to Intermediate level eventing, but there is absolutely no trace of him in BE records either under his name or the results of Rachel Bayliss!!

I have found one horse sired by him who evented at Intermediate level but no more.

[dutchmike]

[QUOTE=J Lav;4077631]
Ahhh…interesting. I have found one reference to him eventing in an article by his owner J P Giacomini, which states Rachel competed him to Intermediate level eventing, but there is absolutely no trace of him in BE records either under his name or the results of Rachel Bayliss!!

I have found one horse sired by him who evented at Intermediate level but no more.[/QUOTE]

Alot of stuff from beofre the mid 80ies never seem to have made it to the cyberworld. I know that from trying to go back in time and finding my own placings, articles etc.