thats the thing, how many riders would be going, and mostly American?
Apparently New Zealand was sending a whole
Plane over and there was a predicted big incoming from overseas (how?? In the pandemic is another question).
There are plenty of international riders at WEF right now who flew in from other countries, some at about the same risk level as the US. Really, I donāt understand why someone from New Zealand, the country with the best pandemic handling, would want to come here.
Considering people showing at other recognized events at KHP pay significantly more in entry fees, maybe they [the UL riders and owners] should put their money where their mouth is and pay a little more to compete.
I honestly wasnāt even sure if there would be livestreaming, based on the information I was able to find online. People who were asking that got called āselfishā in some of the FB threads I saw (i.e., wanting something tangible back from their donations), but Iāll mention that here!
The UK has some of the most poorly controlled coronavirus outbreaks (including the now-notorious UK strain, which is apparently not more deadly or vaccine-resistant, but is still much, much more communicable). So Iām not sure how that would āworkā sending riders from there over, and the UK has historically had some of the most competitive riders at Kentucky.
Iām not criticizing organizers for asking (although truthfully, this year I have nothing to give, not ashamed to say that), but the manner in which theyāre doing seems likely to have the opposite effect, in terms of generating goodwill.
@Impractical_Horsewoman reading your most recent post what immediately popped into my mind is oh how nice no one will have to watch Ollie Townend beat his horse around the track again, or Marilyn Little explain again how obvs bloody mouthed horses are just a normal part of being so very very talented.
Well, I hope my UK favorite Ros Canterās enterprise survives this pandemic intact! And alas, Marilyn Little is American.
I know re ml, I was moving on at that point to people we wonāt be able to see who are gross, british or otherwise
I wonder, if you look at this frankly, if you are treating this nasty undeserved social media ātantrumā directed toward you, differently than you would have if the person who was so dismissive and rude to you had been a āgrassrootsā person and not an āUL riderās wifeā.
Would you be so quick to cover their behavior? An honest question, no sarcasm intended.
Because the rider/coach/trainer/clinician had nothing to do with it. My husband didnāt agree with my donation to KY but I did it anyway.
Is there no requirement for large events like Kentucky to have event insurance? It is really simple to purchase event insurance that covers cancellations and reimburses any money that had already been paid out. So, my question is did they have event insurance and if so, what happened to the money they were reimbursed?
I find it very hard to believe that a large horse event with international coverage is not required to have event insurance tbh.
From my understanding most policies donāt cover communicable diseases so there wouldnāt be any coverage for this cancellation unless they had that coverage which is seriously unlikely.
Why doesnāt the stewards, judges and organizers donate their time? Wouldnāt that make the event less costly?
Event cancellation insurance is generally an āall-causeā type coverage. It doesnāt matter why the event canceled, just the fact that it did cancel is enough to activate the policy.
**I help sponsor some local horse events and this type of coverage is required by most venues and associations that we deal with.
Since it doesnāt look like the organizers have even bothered to petition the FEI to waive the requirement for large $ winning awards, the riders could announce that any winnings will be donated to back the event to cover costs. A few notable riders doing that might pressure the others to sign on. Itās a large amount of money. Correct me if Iām wrong, perhaps the total is comparable to everything that has been raised by donations so far.
All risk coverage still have exclusions and I would bet they had one. There is no such thing as an absolute all risk policy. Majority of policies have this exclusion. I have only heard of one major event being able to claim this and I think it was a football/soccer game if I remember correctly.
Also even if they had the coverage they wouldnāt be able to make a claim and run the event. One or the other.
They make the claim for not running last year and use the money towards this year. Not doing both, Iām not suggesting insurance fraud. lol
All of the policies that I have looked into and used have no exclusion for the pandemic since that is something that was looked at specifically when asking about coverage. Itās covered under āfortuitous triggering eventā in the policy literature.
Most of the stewards DO donate their time. Chief and asst. Chief get $, the rest pay their own way and work 12-18 hour days for free.
Just to be totally upfront, five days ago when they announced the cancellation I posted this:
I did and do feel I have a responsibility to āput my money where my mouth is/wasā, so I absolutely followed through and donated. Obviously Iām not a competitor there (hahahaha), but selfishly itās been a rough year and I would really enjoy a few days glued to the live stream/Eventing Nation/Twitter/live scores/a giant Facebook message discussing every little detail with my friends. It would be nice to pretend things were normal for a bit, and even as an ammy who wouldnāt have travelled this year, I still get personal benefit/enjoyment out of Kentucky running. I really look forward to it every year.
That said, Iām trying to keep some perspective here. As much as I would love a distraction and something that feels normal and just FUN for a few days, there is a pandemic going on. So while I donated to Kentucky, you better believe Iāve donated quite a bit more to other causes that matter more this year and in general (and yes, one of those causes that received more of my $$ than Kentucky was absolutely the frangible fund). I love this event as much as anyone out there. But at the end of the day, as sad as Iād be to be doing nothing on the last weekend in April, I am trying to remember that it is ultimately just a horse show.
^^ I did say this in my original post. So far they havenāt done anything than ask for straight donations, albeit with the option to refund if the event doesnāt run. Iām hoping for the next round of fundraising they use some of these ideas and come up with a way for donors to get something back, even if itās token.
Iād be willing to bet the New Zealand plane was leaving from England. There are very few 5* riders (Kiwi or otherwise) actually based in NZ (not none, but few). Tim and Jonelle have stated their desire to come, for instance, and they are based in the UK. Doesnāt address the desire to cross an ocean in a pandemic, but thatās a different issue.
I hope they donāt. No one who is working face-to-face during a pandemic should be doing so for free. Iām of the opinion they should all be getting danger pay, but then Iām just one little snowflake privileged enough to work from home.
I noticed they have extended the funding deadline. I donāt see any information about how they will protect the community and handle the influx of international entrantsāalthough, to be fair, I donāt see information from Badminton about that, either.