Little known high quality makers, and custom saddles

I had a Martin - the quality was good, it didn’t fit my gelding great so I sold it. They hold their value very well - even the older ones that are quite broken in still get $1000 price tags.

One thing I did not like was the twist was very wide, I felt like I was straddling a wide post when I sat in it. I had an older Martin barrel saddle (prior to their FX3, Sherry Cervi lines, etc).

Ruff’s Saddlery in Florida makes basically custom saddles, and they are very reasonably priced. A friend has several from them and I’m quite impressed with the quality. I tried one on my mare to see if it fit, and it did not, but I was super bummed because I would have bought one in a heartbeat.

My friend owns Circle L Saddle company- amish bench made custom saddles bridles, breast collars and more. I love them- very very high quality and not $$$

I have a Martin Reining saddle that I bought used. It was custom made for someone. It fits my horse like a glove and I find it very comfortable even with the wider twist. Mine is a 16" seat, which was perfect for reining but is 1/2" too big for dressage. That said, it puts me in a good position and I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another Martin saddle.

I was able to sit in pretty much all of their models at the tack shop. The cutter was like trying to straddle the dining room table, the reining and the barrel saddles were much more comfortable. At first I didn’t like the reining saddle, but the more I sat in it the more I started to like it. My second choice was their “performance” saddle.

What type of horse do they work well with? My mare is super flat backed, not much withers, and slightly downhill.

Also just came across Continental Saddlery, who offers an extra full quarter horse tree. Has anybody ever seen one of theirs or owned one of there’s? They look really nice, and have several options within my price range.

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What type of horse do they work well with? My mare is super flat backed, not much withers, and slightly downhill.[/QUOTE]

You pretty much just described my reiner turned dressage horse, except mine has withers. I don’t even notice that he’s downhill in this saddle.

Ive heard good things about Continental, and seen a few that looked nice (but the leather quality is dependent on what you order) but I’ve never ridden in one. I was on their list to get one to trial but then I bought my Martin.

[QUOTE=Draftmare;8805084]
Also just came across Continental Saddlery, who offers an extra full quarter horse tree. Has anybody ever seen one of theirs or owned one of there’s? They look really nice, and have several options within my price range.[/QUOTE]

I had one… the regular Full QH bar was TOO WIDE for my mare (madness!) when she was fit. I actually just traded it for something else, sad day as the only one it was fitting well is my retired mare… who hasn’t been ridden in two years.

They are SO COMFORTABLE. Memory foam in the seat is a lifesaver on days when you are in the saddle for hours and hours. They have different models that fit differently for the rider. The one complaint I had (and I’ve seen others with) is the fenders are long… and stretch a fair bit. If you have short legs, order short fenders or in a couple years you won’t have holes to put your legs in.

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You pretty much just described my reiner turned dressage horse, except mine has withers. I don’t even notice that he’s downhill in this saddle.

Ive heard good things about Continental, and seen a few that looked nice (but the leather quality is dependent on what you order) but I’ve never ridden in one. I was on their list to get one to trial but then I bought my Martin.[/QUOTE]

Well that is good to know. In general I don’t notice that she is downhill except that when I am riding english for whatever reason.

I was trying to figure out the difference between Continental’s $7000 saddles, and their $2000 saddles other than the amount of tooling and silver. So, the leather quality on their lower end saddles is lesser?

[QUOTE=fallenupright;8805197]I had one… the regular Full QH bar was TOO WIDE for my mare (madness!) when she was fit. I actually just traded it for something else, sad day as the only one it was fitting well is my retired mare… who hasn’t been ridden in two years.

They are SO COMFORTABLE. Memory foam in the seat is a lifesaver on days when you are in the saddle for hours and hours. They have different models that fit differently for the rider. The one complaint I had (and I’ve seen others with) is the fenders are long… and stretch a fair bit. If you have short legs, order short fenders or in a couple years you won’t have holes to put your legs in.[/QUOTE]

They offer a demo program, which I think I would for sure take advantage of. My mare is such a tricky fit that I wouldn’t want to commit to something custom before I tried at least one of their saddles.

I actually really love this saddle: http://www.reiningauthority.com/C64-Black-Beauty-Reiner-C64.htm;jsessionid=664AAEBC0D46D1B2D6099F5A058643F2.p3plqscsfapp004

Everyone in the reining world is very impressed with Continental saddles, for what I hear.
Have not seen one in person, so take that for what is worth, they are well recommended.

There are some saying that reining saddles are not made for dressage horses, that they tend to keep horses from coming under you properly for dressage or that they “make a horse keep it’s head down, not what you want in dressage”.

That just doesn’t make sense, as many reining horses work up in front, that is not counted against them if that is how they move and riders use the same saddle with all their horses.
In reining, it is not how the horse moves or looks that counts, but that he does the movements properly, any one way he may do so, properly being technically correct and with as fluid and soft way of executing them as it may, without resistances.

I think whoever made that connection may have had some special circumstances other than the saddle why her horses were not working like any other horse out there.
Maybe the saddle was too wide and sat down in front too much, or who knows why they had that experience.

Reining saddles use the same tree than is used for other western saddles, many that are used for the new western dressage classes.
Mentioning that, as you will see that comment if you look for reining saddle reviews and you may also watch, to see if you may encounter that maybe rare problem.

If you can try a saddle, that would be great, because no matter what anyone will tell you about any saddle, the proof is in putting it on your horse and riding on it.
That trumps all theories and rules of thumb and experiences we can offer.

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I thinking I would like to stay around $3000.[/QUOTE]

We had a Morgan mare who was a hard fit as most Morgans are, her custom saddle cost $2,000 back in 1994 … plus another $400 to have a reproduction rolled leather with rolled silver bridle made … her 1950s saddle had been stolen (and we ares till looking for it as it is stamped with farm logo) and the bridle though still useable was wearing, so we just had the bridle reproduced

Maybe one shape, but I know he does different bar angles. The ones we have fit everything from 15H QH to almost 17+H warmbloods and draft crosses.

Waiting list currently 1 year or more.

Every now and then an apprentice saddle shows up on their website, and IMO, they are great deals.

3K won’t touch on though, and the used ones are just as expensive as new ones.

I don’t think I have ever heard of a saddle forcing a horse to keep its head down, unless it was so poorly fitting to do so.

And I will always try saddles from now on. I got really lucky last year with a Circle Y that I bought sight unseen off of Facebook, and then had a rash of really bad luck with any other Circle Y that I tried. Thankfully I managed to resell all of them for what I paid, and traded one of them for my current western saddle that fits amazing. But it was super stressful, and I don’t really want to repeat the experience!

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I would think that $3000 should get me a really good saddle. That’s a lot of money![/QUOTE]
$3000 is rock bottom for a custom by a good maker. When you have between $500 and $800 in the tree ALONE, then add the leather (figure on two sides of good skirting) and all the other supplies and materials, THEN the work to build it - well, base for most of the makers I know and respect is $2800.00. That is for a plain slick seat, no frills, and no “special” fitting. You get exactly what you pay for in this world.
You may get lucky as a previous poster did, and find a good one on the used market for much less than the going rate - but you will have to know exactly what you are looking for to fit both your horse and yourself to do that.

As others have said, many custom saddle makers just use off the shelf trees. So going custom wouldn’t help a lot with saddle fit, just how it looks.

Check out Crest Ridge Saddlery. They have about 20 different saddle tree designs, which can really help with fitting. I think they can also have a modified tree made if need be.

They are great to work with. Deb was in town and she was able to fit my horse in person, but they have really good instructions on how to do a remote fitting and will work with you.

http://www.crestridgesaddlery.com/

Ugh. I had a horrible experience with Crest Ridge Saddlery. I wouldn’t buy from them again, but I know people do like them. I did find the seat in the saddle to be comfortable - that’s about the only good thing I can say. They do make wide saddles, though.

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They do make wide saddles, though.[/QUOTE]

Yup, this is why I went with them–my mare is pretty much an extra extra wide.

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As others have said, many custom saddle makers just use off the shelf trees. So going custom wouldn’t help a lot with saddle fit, just how it looks.

Check out Crest Ridge Saddlery. They have about 20 different saddle tree designs, which can really help with fitting. I think they can also have a modified tree made if need be.

They are great to work with. Deb was in town and she was able to fit my horse in person, but they have really good instructions on how to do a remote fitting and will work with you.

http://www.crestridgesaddlery.com/[/QUOTE]

I have heard mixed reviews about Crest Ridge. I have never seriously looked into them as their saddles look to be mostly trail riding type saddles.

[QUOTE=AdAblurr02;8814264]$3000 is rock bottom for a custom by a good maker. When you have between $500 and $800 in the tree ALONE, then add the leather (figure on two sides of good skirting) and all the other supplies and materials, THEN the work to build it - well, base for most of the makers I know and respect is $2800.00. That is for a plain slick seat, no frills, and no “special” fitting. You get exactly what you pay for in this world.
You may get lucky as a previous poster did, and find a good one on the used market for much less than the going rate - but you will have to know exactly what you are looking for to fit both your horse and yourself to do that.[/QUOTE]

Well, I guess its a good thing that Continental and Martin can both make me a saddle in that range. I understand that making a saddle is expensive, but $3000 is certainly not a budget to sneeze at, as some posters in this thread have.

What do you folks think of an original Bona Allen saddle