Yea I have considered it, makes me wanna go over there at night and poop in their driveway. This poop yesterday on the lawn is the 4th or 5th in 4 weeks of living here. It’s like they get so far from the farm and have to go for some reason. They must feed them good the poop is a pretty big pile.
Op, it would be super tempting to put one of those floppy blow up things at the end of the driveway, just to prove a point. Because while I, personally, do not agree with what you’re asking - it’s your house and you’ve asked them to be polite and theyre being jerks. Since they won’t be respectful, it may warrant a “horse eating monster” to make their ride extremely unpleasant. Then go back to the manager and say you’ll take it down if they quit shitting on your lawn. Any poop will have the horse eating monster put up for another week.
Some horses just make big piles. Some horses make little piles.
Or they will use it as a training tool and the nervous horses will manure even more in his driveway.
Note to self, Endless is OK with people leaving random crap in her driveway.
I had a feeling this was how it might go.
How inconvenient would it be for you to start parking your car at the end of the drive and just completely block it from being able to be ridden on? I imagine that is well within your rights to do.
Editing to add, I might also think about a trail cam or something for that area too depending on what you decide to do. That type of attitude wouldn’t make me surprised if you did put something up, those people wouldn’t just be asshats and take it down or move it. I can imagine that convo you had with BM turned into some great barn gossip.
If something like that happens, I would want to have any sort of shenanigans documented to avoid any he said/she said.
OP I am really sorry that the barn manager was like that with you.
I feel like there is a huge trend across the board to people doing whatever the heck they feel like, whenever the feel like and without regard to how it will impact anyone else.
Wow
What an ignorant Asshat the BO was!
IIWM, I’d be roping off the end if my driveway with something impassable to horses.
Hotwire crossed my mind, but I wouldn’t want to zap a horse & possibly unseat the rider.
I used to ride on a trail that crossed a cattleman’s property & the trail was blocked where his drive crossed it so we had to ride onto the road the width of the drive. If any horse had pooped there, it would be on the road.
If BO isn’t going to help, I’d be looking into something that makes your driveway impassable to riders.
Doesn’t have to be more than 2’ off the ground, just enough so riders won’t want to step over it.
You tried Nice, move on to EffU.
OP, in which state do you live?
(The things you learn on this horse board !)
I found that in Texas it’s illegal to block your own driveway:
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article279737844.html#:~:text=The%20same%20rules%20apply%20for,driveway%2C%20its%20illegal%20in%20Texas.”
“ Yes, it’s illegal for someone to block your driveway. According to Texas Transportation Code section 545.302, the following places are illegal to park in front of: A public or private driveway. Sidewalk, intersection and crosswalk. Within 15 feet of a fire hydrant. The same rules apply for homeowners, meaning that its also illegal for you to block your own driveway. This is the case in the event of first responders needing to access the home’s driveway.
Read more at: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article279737844.html#storylink=cpy
The way I read that @Chall is that you can not legally park across the end of your driveway.
There are lots of people in Texas (and other places) that have gates across their driveway.
The way I read the suggestions here is not to block the end of the driveway, but to block the sides of the driveway, so someone walking their horse across the lawn can not casually walk onto the driveway and across it.
I knew you’d chime in with some brilliance. Thanks for your ever-impressive take on stuff.
If there’s a ditch and a road, they will not be by the driveway to “train”. They’ll have to tuck their ass to the other side where there’s a potentially steep drop off. No training there, either. Maybe the horses will poop over there but that’s not in the realm of what the OP is entitled to complain about.
This would have the same effect as fencing the sides of the driveway. Now they can’t walk the ditch edge.
Yes, I personally am ok with horses pooping on the sides of the road, and yes, even at the front of my driveway if that’s where they go. All this consternation over something that takes literally 5 seconds to fix by shoveling it into the ditch.
I’d rather use my energy on something else. THATS JUST ME. That’s why I said it that way. But if you want to, in your perpetual brilliance that shines so brightly, make it into something it’s not, go right on ahead.
But if it’s something that bothers the OP, do something about it other than complain that horse owners are rude, which they in this case very well may be. Fence it, put the blow up guy, whatever. Quit complaining, because it ain’t getting it done.
I will also say - if this is how the neighborhood rolls, if this is how it’s been for a long time, and everyone in the neighborhood is good with it but you, you might just want to go get that shovel.
People ride down the roads in the country all around here. I can’t even fathom someone complaining about horse poop on a ditch edge. You would get looked at like you have 3 heads.
It generally never pays to be the “odd one out.”
Maybe something triggered by movement? Sprinklers or something with sound?
I’m sorry the BM was not more helpful. Her response was very rude.
I had a new neighbor that didn’t want me to ride in his ditch. He didn’t actually say anything to me at first. He would see me ride by then jump on his mower and be mowing when I came back by. One day he finally blew up at me for riding in his ditch. I honestly had no idea. He mowed every couple of days anyway and it was weekend so I didn’t think anything of him being out there mowing when I would come back by. I can be a bit obtuse though.
Once you move in, that could be an option for you. The mowing part not blowing up at them. When they come back by, be right up near the road mowing, or weed eating, hedging, blowing leaves. Something loud.
put me in the wow some people are really rude and entitled camp - I don’t want manure in my driveway so I pick up after my horses in front of the neighbours. My area is a mix of cash crops and acreage residential. A driveway gate with some nice decorations that move in the wind and are shiny would look lovely on your property
you could check with the local bylaw officer about poop and scoop rules and road hazard rules - we are on gumbo clay here and if farm equipment tracks a lot of mud onto the paved road the farmer is expected to come back and scrape it off as it can cause nasty wrecks for motorcycle riders.
So if you were riding by someone’s place and your horse stopped and left a big pile on the driveway or yard while the home owner was outside watching you ride past you would just smile and wave? That wouldn’t bother you at all?
I don’t ride on people’s yards or driveways. It doesn’t really sound like these guys are riding down your driveway or across your yard, the way you wrote it here. If it was on the side of the road in front of their house, in an area where horses are frequently ridden and no one to date had complained - I would not be apologetic or jump off to try and do ?? for clean up, no.
OP has been awfully clear that these piles are happening at the end of their actual driveway. I would be less perturbed if it was off to the side on the road or berm, but this isn’t the situation. I wouldn’t want to dodge piles with my vehicle nor clean them regularly myself. Especially after that interaction with the BM.
If the state has a Horseman’s Council, could they be of any help? My states seem to do a good job helping keep good relationships with riders and parks. Not sure they could be helpful with something like this, but their advocacy seems to go both ways.
I can read, and have read, thanks. The quote I posted is not the first post, it’s the most recent poo that the OP is complaining about - post 118 I think (hard to tell with forum format).
The driveway one I sorta understand but again - the 5 seconds to grab a shovel and whip it into the ditch is way easier than the tanglement OP is in now.
Do we now have problems with horse poop, no matter where it is, OP? Because that’s quickly what this is turning into.
More recent quotes.
OP is this your lawn-lawn, or the side of the ditch? If this is the side of the ditch, you’re being unreasonable. If they’re riding across your front lawn, they’re trespassing and that’s the only angle you need to hit this from.