Yes, there are. There are legal workers in many difficult jobs.
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I might be wrong, but if you’re currently in the US there’s no way to apply for legal status unless it’s through asylum application (which I think has a time limit… not that they’re currently interested in recognizing it as “documentation.”) For a green card, you have to leave the country, and it’s still not guaranteed. Much less in a timely manner.
If someone migrated 10 years ago, and now has a job and family here… are they going to take that risk?
People can moralize about it until the cows come home, but the solution for any long-term progress must include more legal avenues.
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You are correct. If a person enters the country illegally, they must leave the country and go through the U.S. Consulate office to apply for a green card. (That’s what AI told me, anyway.)
Also, as you mentioned, good luck trying to get asylum. Afghanis who helped the U.S. during the war are being dumped back in Afghanistan where they will likely be killed. Disgusting and cruel.
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What “order” are immigrants supposed to get their papers in? You know there’s NO pathway to legal status for most of these people, right?
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The facility is owned by the city, so boarders are not allowed to “Put their heads together” to come up with a solution. The city owns the facility and hires the workers to run it. Individual boarders are not allowed to bring in their own staff. Trainers could, but then boarders are paying both the facility AND the trainer to get basic services like mucking and feeding, which they’re already paying approx $900 monthly for.
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This.
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Apparently those clanter mentioned managed to get it done. They didn’t need our help.
Didn’t someone else upthread say it’s owned by Steinbrenner or heirs and someone else? Now it’s owned by the city.
Whomever owns the facility, it’s the responsibility if whomever owns those animals to ensure/probidd proper care.
If they aren’t eligible for legal status there is probably a good reason for it. Send them back.
Enter this country the right way or dont come.
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If they self deport they can reapply to enter legally. If they get picked up and deported they can’t.
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That’s also a separate and very valid issue that hopefully those involved are addressing appropriately
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No. That was not said. What was said was that it was managed by a company that Steinbrenner may have something to do with. You even responded to it. Paying attention is half the battle.
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Yes I remember the brief exchange regarding Mr Steinbrenner. My apologies for not committing every post to memory , as there are much more important things in my life .
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Re posting the article that was posted upthread - might clarify things. It states LAEC is owned by the city, and they contract ASM Global to manage it.
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The Vietnamese were taken in as refugees; they didn’t have to follow the normal immigration procedures. This is much like how Ukranians are currently treated here - for now.
I was an 11 year old living in San Diego when Saigon fell. After the fall of Saigon, the USA immediately airlifted 130,000 South Vietnamese to the States, and they were followed by many, many more, the “boat people”, and later on Cambodians and Hmong. About 50,000 of the initial group were camped on the beach at Camp Pendelton north of San Diego. A lot of the initial group were high level military and political figures and their families who worked closely enough with the USA that the Viet Cong would have slaughtered them.
Shades of Afghanistan, but those people are getting shipped back, straight into the welcoming arms of the Taliban.
Many of the Vietnamese refugees ended up in Orange County, CA, where they were often treated terribly by the local whites, who saw them as intruders and were dumbass enough to call them “Japs.” But they persevered and developed several thriving cities in the area. And, the former South Vietnamese always were willing to help American Vietnam veterans who lived around there with quiet acts of charity, many of whom had basically been written off by the government. That continued at least through 2000, the last time I was in the area.
There were problems of course, as one would expect in any large group of traumatized people. Boys who didn’t adapt well ended up in gangs. The social practices of the Hmong also caused problems, especially marrying off the girls as very young teens and yanking them out of school.
But many thrived. I had the pleasure of teaching some of the sons and daughters of the refugees 30 years later at UC Irvine in the early 90s.
This is a completely different story than what’s going on now.
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H2A visas are for seasonal agricultural workers, not people who need to stay year-round as livestock workers.
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Zot!
(Class of ‘86)
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As noted in my reply to clanter, the Vietnamese who came here from 1975 on most certainly did have help from the government, and were officially welcomed here.
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Yeah, it’s simple. It only takes 5-20 years and $20K+. Darn those barn workers for not getting with the program.
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