Yeah…saw that, too. Also curious who wrote that particular document.
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Yeh, I still don’t see this all adding up. If there was a problem with an AminoTrace, the lot number would’ve been made available and more than her horse would be involved. Especially since it happened quite a while ago.
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And CFIA doesn’t “slowly” decide to do recalls. I’ve been involved in mock recalls before. They don’t wait months if there’s a concern
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Most of her claims just don’t make much sense. Insisting that the elevated heart rate is indicative of toxins…when that’s a very typical bpm for a horse presenting a severe, painful colic? She also posted some stuff on her page about one of the labs Mad Barn used having their equipment out of commission for repairs and how suspicious that is. Ahem, having been involved in University and research lab equipment, it’s finicky stuff and something doesn’t need to be terribly wrong for it to need servicing or minor repairs. And the folks who do repairs are usually spread very thin over a large region, so it takes awhile. That doesn’t mean the results are inaccurate.
I’m truly sorry she lost her horses, and if it comes out that this is a legitimate case of widespread monensin contamination then consider me wrong, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…
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I’m curious as to how she managed to feed Amino Trace starting in October before receiving the bag from Mad Barn in November, that had been ordered directly from Mad Barn because Greenhawk was out of stock.
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She was feeding the from the buckets that were purchased at Greenhawk - the big 20kg bag was sold out at GH and was ordered from the website, according to the statement.
I have no idea if this is relevant, but the suit lists the website she ordered from as madbarn.com which is the US site. Canadian orders would have been through madbarn.ca. I assume this is just a typo/error because I don’t think the US site would fulfil a Canadian order.
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It certainly suggests the document was not written by a lawyer. Or at least not a very good one!
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Sidenote from reading much legal drama on COTH. Lawyers do make surprising factual errors in such documents. But I wouldn’t be surprised in this case if the complainant was writing her own stuff
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So, she goes on a daily social media bullying rampage, targeting everything MadBarn for the last month and then just happens to file a lawsuit against said company, oh and anybody else who questions her for responding negatively to her rants? Hmmm… Yes her ‘lawsuit’ mentions an additional lawsuit in the making, because why stop at one - But lets just call this what it is and this one very clearly has nothing to do with horses and everything to do with money. I happen to really like their products and their service, and I hope that they work through this without getting sucked into the Val-Vortex that has been unfolding.
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Yes. Bullying.
Bullies are actually insecure little people at their core.
The most ironic part is that she has a post waaaaayyy down on her FB wall that says :
“Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged”
So why bully and threaten people?
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Anyone else holding their breath for all of the results out of A&M? Sudden radio silence. I guess she offered to pay for them so she had control over whether or not the results were made public.
I was checking her Facebook daily for a while, lol. But finally forgot about her. Is she still trying to keep this going?
Meanwhile madbarn still the biggest recommended supplement on all the Canadian Facebook groups.
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I’ve noticed her silence has been pretty deafening the last couple weeks. She was making daily rants and not-so-thinly-veiled threats for awhile then suddenly went quite quiet.
Certainly curious to see if she comes back to this. I suspect though that we’ll never see the results of her various tests.
I wonder if she gave up, or her lawyer told her to shut it.
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A few years back my son was helping out at a big poultry barn, and came home one day with 4 chickens that the catchers missed when shipping the birds. These guys were promptly housed in a stall in the barn, and the little baggies of sample food taken from each batch that had been delivered, that son had bought home to feed them were put up on a shelf near them.
A few days later we fed hay to the horses, when we came home my old mare was dead, we figured hear attack, shed a few tears and buried her. The next morning husband got up, and came quickly back saying “you don’t want to look out there” so of course I did, and there was my beautiful yearling filly laying dead. Took her into the university for a necropsy, and got a call later in the day asking if we had cattle, at that time, no cattle. He said that she had died from Monensin poisoning, and we should search the property for a bag from the previous owners. Nothing was found but in my research I found that monensin and its friend Niasin were added to poultry feed. Calls to the feed mill confirmed that the barn son worked at, had it in their feed. More searching found a small sandwich sized zip lock bag, with some pellets still left in it in the pasture. We concluded that a cat, or other critter had dragged them out there, and the mare and filly had investigated.
It was devastating losing them like that, and all the reading I did then just horrified me, things like, if it says on a bag of poultry or cattle feed, caution should not be fed to horses, what it should say is
red[/color]A COUPLE OZS OF THIS STUFF WILL KILL YOUR HORSE trying to make that red, but failed…
This crap is fed to poultry to control respiratory disease in large commercial poultry operations, and as a growth promoter for cows. It’s nasty horrible stuff.
Now I feel so so sorry for anyone who loses horses to this, but I cannot see any scenario where just one tub of a commercial supplement was affected. I have always trusted Mad Barn, and struggle to see how they would supply a product that was contaminated to just one customer. I do see how one customer trying to find answers could latch onto an idea, but the damage she may have caused them is immense.
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Yes. My husband worked in a feed mill and we have friends in the industry still. One friend has met the Mad Barn Founder, knows the business semi-well. I told him about this and he was very much, nah. Not possible.
But we’re SUPER careful not to let chick starter anywhere near the horses for this reason. I was once told the starter is the problem because it’s medicated. Obviously we don’t let any chicken feed near them but the starter I’m extra paranoid about.
And I’m very sorry to hear that a small bag of feed killed your horses. That’s heart wrenching.
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I’m wondering if she agreed to a settlement…And/or maybe a gag order or a cease and desist order?
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That could be. No update since October 17th other than tagging a vet who did acupuncture.
I can’t believe professionals will still provide services to her. One wrong move and she would destroy their reputation.
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On a FB group, someone who appears to be a friend of Valarie, said “many more cases have been discovered”. I haven’t seen/heard a peep about that. Anyone else?
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