Please show me where I have said racing “is doing nothing”. I have posted that the industry does not effectively police itself. This is distinctly different than saying racing has done nothing.
I bring up the Dubai Gold Cup because it is relevant and timely, not because I think re-runs are the norm.
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Please show me where I have said racing “is doing nothing”. I have posted that the industry does not effectively police itself. This is distinctly different than saying racing has done nothing.
I bring up the Dubai Gold Cup because it is relevant and timely, not because I think re-runs are the norm.[/QUOTE]
How is it relevant? How is your sport policing itself effectively?
As I stated, I get why the ara’s finger point,but I am surprised that someone who states they are into sport horses feels the need to do so.
quack quack
cheers!
The Dubai Gold Cup is relevant because yet again we have catastrophic breakdown…the subject of the NYT article.
As I have stated, I have followed thoroughbred racing more closely over the last decade than any other horse sport, so…no, “my” sport is not policing itself effectively.
Has it ever occurred to you that I participate in discussions like this because I would actually like to see the industry successfully address its issues?
Explaining context to you is getting old. Onwards and upwards.
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The Dubai Gold Cup is relevant because yet again we have catastrophic breakdown…the subject of the NYT article.
As I have stated, I have followed thoroughbred racing more closely over the last decade than any other horse sport, so…no, “my” sport is not policing itself effectively.
Has it ever occurred to you that I participate in discussions like this because I would actually like to see the industry successfully address its issues?
Explaining myself to you is getting old. Onwards and upwards.[/QUOTE]
The race was run on turf, at 2 miles with a slow pace and with 0 drugs. So what issues should have been addressed there?
Your agenda is showing and you are very out of touch with racing issues.
cheers!
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Was it in the best interest of the horses and the sport itself to offer a re-run given the circumstances of the first go at it?
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Was it in the best interest of the horses and the sport itself to offer a re-run given the circumstances of the first go at it?[/QUOTE]
I thought it was not,but as I already stated,this is not the norm. I have never seen it done before. So how can racing be lax on addressing it if it has never happened?
It also did not happen in the USA or Canada. You are aware of that,correct?
cheers!
quack quack
In going forward, today’s handling of the Dubai Gold Cup re-running could set a precedent for racing worldwide should a similar circumstance rise again, could it not?
Am I not allowed to ask questions here or something? I have been polite to you. Your animosity is out of line.
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I thought it was not,but as I already stated,this is not the norm. I have never seen it done before. So how can racing be lax on addressing it if it has never happened?
It also did not happen in the USA or Canada. You are aware of that,correct?
cheers!
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I’ve nodded my head in agreement with you and shaken my head as well. Gotta love COTH for that.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree, Barnfairy seems to be the type of diligent fan/supporter racing needs to hold close. Educated, and strongly set on voicing their opinion.
BF raises some good points in how the public perceives us. Even though the Gold Cup is a HUGE deal to us, anything that doesn’t have to do with the Triple Crown or maybe the BC, doesn’t exist in the eyes of the public. Seeing as how uneducated the writer of the NYT article was, I doubt he’ll ever know. Nevertheless, I feel it was handled poorly and I hope not to see anything like that again.
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In going forward, today’s handling of the Dubai Gold Cup re-running could set a precedent for racing worldwide should a similar circumstance rise again, could it not?
Am I not allowed to ask questions here or something? I have been polite to you. Your animosity is out of line.[/QUOTE]
I feel your animosity is out of line. If you truely like horse racing you would be pointing out to the nay-sayers all that racing has been doing lately. Others on here have done so.
My issue with you is that you pretend to care about racing but your posts show your true agenda. You are just another ara trying to bash racing. First you were an Eventer then you were not. You state racing does not police itself enough and you use the rerun as an example. Now you state that it could be an issue that needs to be addressed. Do you really believe US racing will not address this? Even though it happened in a foreign country?
You have no clue about racing and have no interest in learning anything about the sport. You have no clue as to what racing is doing about any of the issues.
You just want to bash. You act like an ara.
cheers!
quack quack
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I’ve nodded my head in agreement with you and shaken my head as well. Gotta love COTH for that.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree, Barnfairy seems TP be the type of diligent fan/supporter racing needs to hold close. Educated, and strongly set on voicing their opinion.
BF raises some good points in how the public perceives us. Even though the Gold Cup is a HUGE deal to us, anything that doesn’t have to do with the Triple Crown or maybe the BC, doesn’t exist in the eyes of the public. Seeing as how uneducated the writer of the NYT article was, I doubt he’ll ever know. Nevertheless, I feel it was handled poorly and I hope not to see anything like that again.[/QUOTE]
I thought she liked racing too at first. But she keeps insisting that the majority of handicappers don’t care about the horse and put the money first. I know many more 'cappers that care about the horse first.
She is bashing just to bash. She paints all racetrackers,handicappers with the same brush. She is not a supporter at all. Where are the links or comments that support what racing IS doing?
She is far from educated about racing.
I call it like I see,and she is quacking up a storm. If it quacks like a duck…
You are quite wrong about me. On this we will have to agree to disagree.
I’m nodding my head in agreement with you on one thing for sure, racing does not get enough credit for what it has done for horses and blue collar workers, heck the horse industry in general.
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I thought she liked racing too at first. But she keeps insisting that the majority of handicappers don’t care about the horse and put the money first. I know many more 'cappers that care about the horse first.
She is bashing just to bash. She paints all racetrackers,handicappers with the same brush. She is not a supporter at all. Where are the links or comments that support what racing IS doing?
She is far from educated about racing.
I call it like I see,and she is quacking up a storm. If it quacks like a duck…[/QUOTE]
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You are quite wrong about me. On this we will have to agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]
Prove me wrong. Write one post without using words like “majority”. You were not in racing long enough or deep enough to even come close to knowing what the “majority” of anyone in the sport thinks.
If you want to point out the bad apples do so, but state that they are the few. If you are not aware of that,then please educate yourself.
As I have written here previously, bring up my posting history from this forum. All of it.
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As I have written here previously, bring up my posting history from this forum. All of it.[/QUOTE]
As I have stated, I have read your posts in the past and thought you cared about racing. I do not see that now. This is how I view your current posts.
"Write one post without using words like “majority”. You were not in racing long enough or deep enough to even come close to knowing what the “majority” of anyone in the sport thinks.
If you want to point out the bad apples do so, but state that they are the few. If you are not aware of that,then please educate yourself."
a current example of racing reaction to breakdowns
An immediate reaction to an increase in breakdowns, those IN the industry want to know why and want it to stop
"In response to recent equine deaths at Aqueduct Racetrack, regulators in New York are poised to adopt a rule voiding claiming race sales of horses that die during a claiming event or are euthanized on-track after a race.
The New York State Racing and Wagering Board will be holding an emergency meeting April 2 to consider, and almost certainly, adopt the new, 22-word addition to the state’s racing regulations.
The rule change simply notes that “a claim shall be void for any horse that dies during a race or is euthanized on the track following a race.’’
The rule would affect all Thoroughbred tracks in New York.
Investigators have been examining a whole host of possible factors for the 21 equine deaths during the winter meet at Aqueduct, including track conditions, trainers, jockeys, and medical condition of the horses. Whether there are any connections between claiming races and the deaths has also been a growing source of review by state regulators.
“This change is in response to an increase in fatalities at Aqueduct,’’ said a source at the racing board who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The official noted that the review by the board of the equine deaths is ongoing and that more rule changes affecting the industry could be on the way."
Very few people in racing have attempted to alienate me as you have. If they had, I would not be a fan of the sport.
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Very few people in racing have attempted to alienate me as you have. If they had, I would not be a fan of the sport.
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Now you are a fan,before you were an insider. Get your stories straight.
cheers!
quack quack
If lifesabreeze is an ambassador for racing, no wonder it is in trouble.
more that is being done BY the racing community in NY
This has been an ongoing compilation of data and it’s release has been in the works for months PRIOR to the recent breakdowns at Aqueduct
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/68468/ny-regulators-to-open-database-to-public
"Racing regulators in New York are set to release a comprehensive database, searchable by the public, of every equine death over the past three years at New York racetracks.
The database, in the works for months before the recent equine death controversy at Aqueduct Racetrack, will be on the state Racing and Wagering Board’s website. It is to be searchable by track, trainer, owner, horse name, and a range of other information, according to sources at the racing board.
Racing board chairman John Sabini said during a March 28 board meeting that his agency will shortly be making public a “significant database’’ regarding equine deaths and board rulings against jockeys, trainers, and others in the industry. He did not elaborate.
A state source told The Blood-Horse that the new database is an attempt to bring information now held by the board internally and make it available to the public. “There’s nothing to be hide,’’ an official said."
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