Man fatally mauled, dog killed, by pit bulls on dog walk

[Sswor]

Likely. Because the pits keep on killing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pit-bull-breaks-away-chain-mauls-man-death-150934175.html

[h=1]Pit bull breaks away from chain, mauls man to death in Ohio[/h] DAN SEWELL

• Associated PressApril 25, 2017

    CINCINNATI (AP) — A pit bull apparently broke away from a chain and mauled a man to death early Tuesday as he screamed for help, Dayton police said.

Police in the southwest Ohio city responded to a report of a man yelling, “Jesus, help me, help me!” at around 4:40 a.m. The 911 caller said the man was yelling at “the top of his lungs” amid the sounds of dogs barking loudly. He said the man was also crying.
Lt. Mark Ponichtera said police found the man being attacked in an alley. They were able to get the dog to back off, and the man was taken to a hospital, where he died.
Police fatally shot the dog, which they say was a pit bull.
“There was no way to safely confine the dog,” police Lt. Andrew Booher said. Three other dogs were turned over to county animal resource officials.
Booher said in an afternoon press briefing in Dayton that authorities believe all four dogs came from the same residence. He said the owner of that residence was in a nursing home, and police were trying to determine who lived there now and who had responsibility for the dogs. They could face charges.
“We’re trying to make contact with neighbors to see if there’s any history of problems with these dogs,” Booher said.
Police said the man killed was middle-aged and didn’t live in the neighborhood where he was attacked. They were trying to contact relatives before releasing his name.
Dayton had two high-profile dog mauling deaths in 2014 — one of a 7-month-old boy, the other of a 57-year-old woman.

[CanadianTrotter]

@Gestalt

And this is why I wish the laws would change to having dog owners charged with a crime. If your dog kills somebody you should be charged with murder. Just like having a gun for protection.

(is this going to be the "thread that never dies?)

Absolutely agree!

How that woman walked away with no criminal charges is beyond comprehension.

This thread or other pit bull threads will continue until people are no longer being mauled or killed by pit bulls.

If there are other dog breeds that are mauling and killing people they should be included in these threads as well.

[CanadianTrotter]

@Sswor

Likely. Because the pits keep on killing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pit-bull-breaks-away-chain-mauls-man-death-150934175.html

And the pro-pit bull people let them keep on killing.

[Garnet_Z]

@CanadianTrotter

And the pro-pit bull people let them keep on killing.

And here’s another one: http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-upper-macungie-dog-attack-20170427-story.html

The dog apparently tore chunks out of her neck.

[CanadianTrotter]

@Garnet_Z

And here’s another one: http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-upper-macungie-dog-attack-20170427-story.html

The dog apparently tore chunks out of her neck.

After reading that article it seems the woman was a responsible owner and the dog was well cared for, yet the dog turned and killed it’s owner.

It didn’t just bite and retreat, it ripped her throat out. How many other dog breeds will continue such a horrendous attack and go for the throat of a human?

[vacation1]

@khall

Sswor not according to the dog training experts. There are certain traits that are do follow certain breeds but not in general and especially not is mixed breed dogs. Here you go:http://io9.gizmodo.com/does-your-dogs-breed-really-determine-its-personality-1543999674

That is the worst link I’ve ever seen, and believe me, considering that pit owners typically link back to Animal Farm Foundation ‘research’ titled Why Pibble Mamas Luvs Them Some Pitty Babies!, that’s saying something.

It’s a short opinion piece on a now defunct blog called io9, part of the Gawker universe. It focused on scifi and fantasy, and Davis’s other pieces are mostly reviews of comics. Her atypical foray into doggie dynamics was probably motivated by her Boxer, about whom she says indulgently,

“…my usually sweet Skoda turns into a bundle of snapping rage at the veterinarian’s office…”

She’s also keenly aware that her beloved pet dog, who has moments of violent rage, is closely related to the pit bulls, for which he’s sometimes mistaken:

Skoda is a Boxer because he is descended from dogs that someone has termed “Boxer,” but he, like other Boxers, is fairly recently related to Bulldogs and any other dog bred from the Bullenbeisser…Most dog lovers recognize Skoda as a Boxer (although he’s occasionally mistaken for a Bulldog or a Pit Bull) because of his smushed-in nose, his lean body, his short, floppy ears, his arched skull, and that adorable underbite.

[CanadianTrotter]

@vacation1

Why Pibble Mamas Luvs Them Some Pitty Babies!

Bwahahahahaha!!! I just snorted my coffee through my nose, thanks, I needed a good laugh!

I didn’t read the link and your quotations taken from it is why I don’t bother to even open most of the links provided by pro-pit bull people, unless they are an academic research.

[kmm11289]

And another tragic story: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/11/pit-bull-mauls-6-month-old-baby-to-death-in-nevada.html

“The family said they were left blindsided by the attack. The pit bull was part of the family was for the last nine years and had not bit anyone prior to the attack.”

[CanadianTrotter]

That poor baby!

When is this going to stop?

[JanM]

It will stop when people stop leaving little kids alone with their dogs.

I refuse to believe that severe attacks or deaths happen with an animal that ‘never hurt anyone’, like the owners inevitably say in these articles. I used to watch Cesar Millan, and so many of the owners of dogs that had bitten others (many were toy breeds, including chi’s, min pins, and mini dachshunds) kept saying the dog wasn’t dangerous. Most of the owners had family members, including a 10 year old in one case, who had scars from attacks, and the owner still maintained the dog wasn’t a hazard.

A rerun from the California days of Pit Bulls & Parolees had a pit bull owner with younger kids (upper elementary or so), and the dog attacked the kids, friends and relatives, and went after Tia and other people that were trying to help the woman with the dog. The dog was so out of control that when the dog went to the rescue site, they had to use two leads, and keep the dog away from people, because it was trying to attack constantly. The owner still was going to keep the dog, in spite of the danger to her own children. I’m not going to Google to see if there are any further stories about the outcome, because I can’t imagine this ended well for anyone. When a pit bull advocate tells you your dog is dangerous, and if it was her dog she would put it down, then you should believe them. I hope whoever was injured by that dog later, and I’m sure someone was, they should enter the TV show tape into evidence that the owner knew exactly what was going to happen.

One of the big claims people make is that pits are dog aggressive, not human aggressive. That scares me to death when a dog that is supposed to be aggressive to other animals, becomes human aggressive also, like the Pit Bulls TV show animal described above.

[beowulf]

@JanM

It will stop when people stop leaving little kids alone with their dogs.

I refuse to believe that severe attacks or deaths happen with an animal that ‘never hurt anyone’, like the owners inevitably say in these articles. I used to watch Cesar Millan, and so many of the owners of dogs that had bitten others (many were toy breeds, including chi’s, min pins, and mini dachshunds) kept saying the dog wasn’t dangerous. Most of the owners had family members, including a 10 year old in one case, who had scars from attacks, and the owner still maintained the dog wasn’t a hazard.

A rerun from the California days of Pit Bulls & Parolees had a pit bull owner with younger kids (upper elementary or so), and the dog attacked the kids, friends and relatives, and went after Tia and other people that were trying to help the woman with the dog. The dog was so out of control that when the dog went to the rescue site, they had to use two leads, and keep the dog away from people, because it was trying to attack constantly. The owner still was going to keep the dog, in spite of the danger to her own children. I’m not going to Google to see if there are any further stories about the outcome, because I can’t imagine this ended well for anyone. When a pit bull advocate tells you your dog is dangerous, and if it was her dog she would put it down, then you should believe them. I hope whoever was injured by that dog later, and I’m sure someone was, they should enter the TV show tape into evidence that the owner knew exactly what was going to happen.

The bold part is SO important and I entirely and wholeheartedly agree.

I find it disturbing how many dog owners cannot identify signs of aggression, detect a potential act of aggression before it happens, etc.

Last week during a hike with friends we rounded the corner and a dog (husky/spitz looking mutt) came galloping up to us, hackles raised and I could see very clearly his teeth. His owner was sprinting behind him and said “just ignore him he’s friendly!” as he casually ran on by and the dog reluctantly turned to follow him. Yeah, okay - I will ignore the 50lb black dog with very white teeth and continue on my way. This is the casual, cavalier attitude so many dog owners have and it sets my teeth on edge. This was on a trail where leashes are mandatory.

I do not believe for a moment that any of the dogs involved in human or dog maulings “never” showed aggression prior.

Chances are they did, but the owners were not savvy or willing enough to identify it. I’m so sick of people not being educated enough with their dogs that it has turned me off entirely from just about every dog and person I meet, anywhere.

[WildandWickedWarmblo]

This week, child killed by family’s pit bull dog in Las Vegas.
I was left alone by my parents with 2 large dogs, not pit bulls. Those dogs protected me and my little sister. Only time I got nipped was when I handcuffed, yes handcuffed, one of the dogs when I was playing cowboys and indians. My father took the dog’s side so I never handcuffed a dog again.

Research the breed you are interested in. If it has been bred for fighting for centuries, as have pits, do not get one unless you can keep it from getting out and killing an adult or child. Pits can and will enthusiastically kill feral hogs, cattle, and pull down adults and kill them. Children are child’s play to a pit bull. Their instinct is to kill other living things. Not so with many big but gentle breeds that were never bred to kill.

[GoodTimes]

Last weekend I went bridesmaid dress shopping. I’m close with the bride, but really just an acquaintance of the other girls. None of them grew up with dogs, yet they all have young dogs now. None have any formal obedience training, to the point where I don’t even want to go to anyone’s house because it’s mayhem.

Bridesmaid A has a 5 month old baby and proceeded to tell us this cute story about how she came out from having a shower recently and the baby was yelling and giggling because their year old lab had just licked her face and hands to the point she was dripping wet. I just shook my head, and said sarcastically “you trust your dog more then I trust mine”, all it would take could be an unexpected yell, or baby poking the dog in the eye, etc for him to change his tone.

Bridesmaid B then told us how one of her friends has a German Shepherd who openly doesn’t like children but he listens to his dad. So when the owners had a new baby they forced the dog to let the kid crawl on him and pet him. Do people not realize how quickly a dog can swing it’s head and snap at a baby or small child? GRR

Bridesmaid C then told us how her Catahoula has bit 3 people. She claims the dog was protecting her. I’m more inclined to believe the dog has an unhealthy possessive nature about his home. All of these poor people were invited into the house and then got bit. You should have enough control over your dog to assure them your friends are not dangerous intruders. All 3 bites drew blood, she’s just lucky no one has gone to animal control. I feel sorry for the dog. He doesn’t get any exercise other then a short walk and thrown out the door after work. The only dog he’s ever met is their other dog who doesn’t like him. And he has no mental stimulus on top of that. This is the perfect storm for an attack on an adult or a child. She’s hosting the bachelorette at her dads cottage and I sternly told her that there better not be any dogs there!

This was mostly a post about bad owners, but I’m just going to throw it out there that any dog that’s built like a tank keeps me on my toes. My dog is a gangly, uncoordinated 90 lb aussie x bernese. While she’s big and strong most adults could knock her off her feet and gain the upper hand while she tries to get back up. I doubt I could knock a 50lb pitt type dog off their feet at all.

[CanadianTrotter]

@JanM

It will stop when people stop leaving little kids alone with their dogs.

I agree, no small child should be left alone with any breed of dog.

When I asked “When is this going to stop?”, I was referring to pit bull attacks and deaths.

When are there going to be enough maulings and deaths by pit bulls? When is someone going to do something to actually stop them from happening? These “Band-Aid” pit bull rescues are obviously not enough.

[red_mares]

@JanM

I refuse to believe that severe attacks or deaths happen with an animal that ‘never hurt anyone’, like the owners inevitably say in these articles. I used to watch Cesar Millan, and so many of the owners of dogs that had bitten others (many were toy breeds, including chi’s, min pins, and mini dachshunds) kept saying the dog wasn’t dangerous. Most of the owners had family members, including a 10 year old in one case, who had scars from attacks, and the owner still maintained the dog wasn’t a hazard.

I spent some time looking through forums for those with aggressive dogs. It is like listening to those in domestic violence situations.

The big difference - if Bubba decks you for not having dinner ready on time, no one suggests that you should have dinner on the table for him precisely on time to prevent a future beating.

If you have a dog that will bite (severely) when you put food down, they will suggest that you put food down then bring the dog in or some other similar thing. It’s nuts. It is all about “setting the dog up for success” but it reads like enabling an abusive spouse and validating their insane reasons for abuse. “Fluffy bit me, (drawing blood and requiring stitches) but it’s my fault because I know better than to get between him and a door” is not much of an exaggeration of the justifications I saw.

Several talked of the relief felt after putting an aggressive/vicious dog down; many were at the point where they were in fear the dog would harm them while they slept. Who counsels someone to keep trying to reform a dog when you are constantly afraid will bite you? Sadly there are people out there who honestly & sincerely think the dog who threatens to kill you in your sleep should continue to live.

[skyon]

GoodTimes - if there has been something noticeable in dogs in the last decade or so, you nailed it. The increase of people who think any breed / mix can be manipulated to be a loving member of a family and that licking babies will communicate to the dog, love and protection, for life… I think social media and advertising images have a lot to do with it.

They will find out the hard way when a visitor has to go the emergency room and hopefully that will happen for something minor before major.

[halo]

It never stops:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/05/10/pit-bulls-shot-killed-by-police-after-attack-on-small-dog/

A good friend of mine owned a pit from puppyhood. That he was well brought up is an understatement. He lived with several other breed dogs. The pit decided to jump the fence and kill the neighbors elderly chihuahua that was sleeping on his owners porch. My friend took his dog home and shot him. I have nightmares to this day of those sweet people who lost their little baby. They took it very very hard.

I am fully in the camp of there are no good pit bulls. I wont have one, I wont go near one. Im horrified of them. As far as Im concerned, you might as well own an alligator.

Having said that, I understand legislation can’t be breed specific. And I understand why. So I dont want to hear how wonderful your Sweetie Pie is and that you take pictures of your toddler climbing all over your pitt bull…because youre an idiot. I just wish someone had the balls enough to introduce legislation that makes injuries and deaths that these dogs do accountable. Huge fines, like thousands of dollars. And even jail time.

I dont mean dogs that are protecting your own property and home. There still has to be accountability for damage done by a dog at home, unless its to an unwanted visitor. But for all these dogs that get out and maim and kill other dogs and human beings, this has got to stop. These needs to be a felony. That way, all the pit bull lovers who say their little poochkins would never hurt anyone? Well, good. Hopefully he wont. But if he does, you will be responsible. In a very deep and painful way.

[red_mares]

Halo - you nailed it. If your pibble is a Sweetie Pie who never nibbles on anything besides kibble, there should be nothing to fear from a strongly written statute that makes enabling a dog attack, in any way, shape, or form, a felony. If you are threatened by a law that holds you criminally responsible for any injury to a person or other animal by your dog, then maybe you aren’t the responsible owner you claim to be.

I was at the vet last week and a woman brought her dog in after a dog fight. She didn’t say what kind of dog the other was, but it was classic pit bull - dog ran from out of no where and went after her dog. Dog has done this to other dogs. Of course the lady didn’t want to report it “because they might lose their dog”. No kidding, that is the point. I suggested politely that she consider if she would want someone else to go through what she was suffering through.

[beowulf]

@halo

It never stops:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/…-on-small-dog/

A good friend of mine owned a pit from puppyhood. That he was well brought up is an understatement. He lived with several other breed dogs. The pit decided to jump the fence and kill the neighbors elderly chihuahua that was sleeping on his owners porch. My friend took his dog home and shot him. I have nightmares to this day of those sweet people who lost their little baby. They took it very very hard.

I am fully in the camp of there are no good pit bulls. I wont have one, I wont go near one. Im horrified of them. As far as Im concerned, you might as well own an alligator.

Having said that, I understand legislation can’t be breed specific. And I understand why. So I dont want to hear how wonderful your Sweetie Pie is and that you take pictures of your toddler climbing all over your pitt bull…because youre an idiot. I just wish someone had the balls enough to introduce legislation that makes injuries and deaths that these dogs do accountable. Huge fines, like thousands of dollars. And even jail time.

I dont mean dogs that are protecting your own property and home. There still has to be accountability for damage done by a dog at home, unless its to an unwanted visitor. But for all these dogs that get out and maim and kill other dogs and human beings, this has got to stop. These needs to be a felony. That way, all the pit bull lovers who say their little poochkins would never hurt anyone? Well, good. Hopefully he wont. But if he does, you will be responsible. In a very deep and painful way.

It should be “all dogs” – not “these dogs”. ALL owners should be responsible in a “deep and painful” way regardless of the breed they choose to own. If your dog kills/mauls a person, you should be accountable.

That means:

Any dog that kills a person, period.

Any dog that kills another dog, period.

Any dog that mauls a person, period.

Any dog that mauls a dog, period.

Exception being dogs who attacked trespassers/burglars in their own home, etc.

[Pep_n_Ann]

@beowulf

It should be “all dogs” – not “these dogs”. ALL owners should be responsible in a “deep and painful” way regardless of the breed they choose to own. If your dog kills/mauls a person, you should be accountable.

That means:

Any dog that kills a person, period.

Any dog that kills another dog, period.

Any dog that mauls a person, period.

Any dog that mauls a dog, period.

I would also add any dog that kills or mauls livestock. Maybe not an issue in the city, but it sure can be in a more rural setting.